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Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 11 Aug 2024 12:01
by BSA

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 11 Aug 2024 12:17
by Labrev
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Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 11 Aug 2024 12:58
by lupedafiasco
Really liked what I saw from Monk. I’ve gotta rewatch the game because at times I was looking elsewhere but he’s one I really want to see. But the snapping issues talked about in camp showed up a bit from what I saw. That’s something he will need to sure up or he will never crack the starting lineup.

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 11 Aug 2024 16:20
by BSA
Here's a clip from CLE game, this time showing a nice combo block from Rhyan/Dillard


Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 11 Aug 2024 18:48
by Pckfn23
BSA wrote:
11 Aug 2024 16:20
Here's a clip from CLE game, this time showing a nice combo block from Rhyan/Dillard

I'm going to be devil's advocate here. That's a standard block. You have a 4i with a C gap run, you have to combo. Basic. To then come off and get the ILB in B gap is pretty basic. If our linemen can't do those things, I would be very worried. Per Ross, the Watson block is good, not great.

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 11 Aug 2024 19:49
by texas
Labrev wrote:
11 Aug 2024 12:17
Return to MONKe
only OG internet memers get this

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 12 Aug 2024 11:53
by BSA
Pckfn23 wrote:
11 Aug 2024 18:48
That's a standard block.
I suggested its a nice combo block, you suggested its a standard block. Isn't it entirely possible that both of those things are true ?
And if that's the case, then the devil has no role here. Nobody suggested greatness, but it is nice to see the back- ups executing; especially given how little time Rhyan and Dillard have had together.

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 12 Aug 2024 12:13
by NCF
BSA wrote:
12 Aug 2024 11:53
Pckfn23 wrote:
11 Aug 2024 18:48
That's a standard block.
I suggested its a nice combo block, you suggested its a standard block. Isn't it entirely possible that both of those things are true ?
And if that's the case, then the devil has no role here. Nobody suggested greatness, but it is nice to see the back- ups executing; especially given how little time Rhyan and Dillard have had together.
A standard block and an "OK" block by Watson yielded a 7-yard run. Where can I sign up for that again?

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 12 Aug 2024 14:09
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
11 Aug 2024 18:48
BSA wrote:
11 Aug 2024 16:20
Here's a clip from CLE game, this time showing a nice combo block from Rhyan/Dillard

I'm going to be devil's advocate here. That's a standard block. You have a 4i with a C gap run, you have to combo. Basic. To then come off and get the ILB in B gap is pretty basic. If our linemen can't do those things, I would be very worried. Per Ross, the Watson block is good, not great.
geesh Ross, everyone here at the Huddle knows that was basically a standard combo block with the C and RG, leaving out the words basic, and standard, paint this combo block as something that rarely happens, we know better :rotf: :rotf:

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 12 Aug 2024 15:19
by BSA
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Here's more on IOL Sean Rhyan from Brandon Carlisle

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/0 ... uard-spot/

While Rhyan aimed to solidify his case as the starting right guard, he ended up making a strong impression with his performance at center.”
“I thought he did a good job,” offensive coordinator Adam Stenavich said Monday after reviewing the tape. “That’s not an easy thing. It’s pretty underrated being able to go out there and make the calls, snap the ball to the quarterback without any exchange issues, things like that…I was happy with what I saw.”


In the presser today, MLF comments once again on SR's conditioning, saying that when he's fresh, he's plenty talented

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 12 Aug 2024 17:11
by BSA
from Luke Butkus

On Jacob Monk:

Watching that film from the game on Saturday was an awesome – not a surprise because I know he's a tough kid and he works his butt off. But before the game during warmups, the look on his face, he was ready to rip somebody's lips off. That's the way he played, and it was fun to watch. He loves playing the game. He loves the physicality of it.


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Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 06:38
by YoHoChecko
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Aug 2024 12:58
Really liked what I saw from Monk. I’ve gotta rewatch the game because at times I was looking elsewhere but he’s one I really want to see. But the snapping issues talked about in camp showed up a bit from what I saw. That’s something he will need to sure up or he will never crack the starting lineup.
Yeah a center with snapping issues is no good but I’m definitely glad to see Monk executing. The vibes i got from Camp reporters is that he’s just clearly not ready, but he seems to have exceeded expectations when the game came on, per the Butkus quote BSA posted above and other clips and reports.

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 06:42
by YoHoChecko
Telfort and Jones are really nice/interesting RT options but it’s unclear if they’ll develop fast enough to be the primary backup guys this year. I saw nice clips if each around the internet but haven’t seen anything about potential negatives. I’ll have to go check some videos and bloggers to see more complete analysis bore that film review has been available

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 08:28
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote:
13 Aug 2024 06:38
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Aug 2024 12:58
Really liked what I saw from Monk. I’ve gotta rewatch the game because at times I was looking elsewhere but he’s one I really want to see. But the snapping issues talked about in camp showed up a bit from what I saw. That’s something he will need to sure up or he will never crack the starting lineup.
Yeah a center with snapping issues is no good but I’m definitely glad to see Monk executing. The vibes i got from Camp reporters is that he’s just clearly not ready, but he seems to have exceeded expectations when the game came on, per the Butkus quote BSA posted above and other clips and reports.
I think basically redshirt him as OC, but allow him to keep getting some of those bench reps at OG. Refine the snapping issues (seems easily coachable, right?) and then he should have a pretty seamless transition into the starting line-up next year when they let Meyers walk.

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 08:35
by NCF
I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 08:55
by Yoop
NCF wrote:
13 Aug 2024 08:35
I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
do some drink, eat, love the game more then others? sure, thats a human tendency, however Palmy speaks volumes concerning this.
to get to this level, love of the game is a prerequisite to being talented. :aok:


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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 09:04
by APB
BSA wrote:
11 Aug 2024 12:01
From Andy Herman
Some Jacob Monk clips from CLE game

https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 0ac08a.mp4

https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 2a52ec.mp4
That second clip is pretty impressive. His short area quickness is on full display. :aok:

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 09:21
by YoHoChecko
NCF wrote:
13 Aug 2024 08:35
I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
A while back Belichick listed the top five traits he looks for and #1 was loves the game and OT always seemed like a really simple thing to put emphasis on and so I’d also be curious.

It is interesting though because for instance Rasheed Walker’s pre-draft profile was NOT of someone who loves the game so much. It was mostly injury, but also motivation and attitude questions, if i remember correctly that dropped him from being a probable 4th/5th round guy to a 7th

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 09:51
by RingoCStarrQB
YoHoChecko wrote:
13 Aug 2024 09:21
NCF wrote:
13 Aug 2024 08:35
I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
A while back Belichick listed the top five traits he looks for and #1 was loves the game and OT always seemed like a really simple thing to put emphasis on and so I’d also be curious.

It is interesting though because for instance Rasheed Walker’s pre-draft profile was NOT of someone who loves the game so much. It was mostly injury, but also motivation and attitude questions, if i remember correctly that dropped him from being a probable 4th/5th round guy to a 7th
Bart was not fond of Steve Wright. But somehow he stuck. :idn:

Re: Packers Offensive Line 2024

Posted: 13 Aug 2024 10:05
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote:
13 Aug 2024 09:21
NCF wrote:
13 Aug 2024 08:35
I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
A while back Belichick listed the top five traits he looks for and #1 was loves the game and OT always seemed like a really simple thing to put emphasis on and so I’d also be curious.

It is interesting though because for instance Rasheed Walker’s pre-draft profile was NOT of someone who loves the game so much. It was mostly injury, but also motivation and attitude questions, if i remember correctly that dropped him from being a probable 4th/5th round guy to a 7th
I actually think @Yoop's comment puts this in perspective a bit. Maybe everyone loves the game coming in, but in the case of Meyers and Newman and others from the past, do they STILL love the game once they have been through a few seasons. In Walker's case, maybe the success he has enjoyed has reinvigorated his love for the game and pushed him to work harder. Just interesting psychology that I would be interested in having conversations about.