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Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 15 Aug 2024 08:22
by APB
@YoHoChecko
Who is RB Wright? Did you mean Lloyd?
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 15 Aug 2024 08:33
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024 08:05
Jennings will be one to watch on the iOL now that he's healthy and returning to practice.
I think Lloyd's injury might free up one additional space on the initial 53, as BSA suggested earlier.
Agree on Jennings.
Lloyd to IR to begin the year might actually be a blessing in disguise and then work him back onto the roster in October/November when fully healthy. Dillon is such a tough cut and I just don't think they go that route, even though I had it in my 53.
I don't want to continue to have the same argument, but I would bet a healthy sum that both Jones and Telfort making it is not going to happen. I could easily see one or the other, but I just do not see both.
Similar to Lloyd, Hopper is an absolute lock unless the plan is to IR him for the beginning of the season.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 15 Aug 2024 09:02
by YoHoChecko
APB wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024 08:22
@YoHoChecko
Who is RB Wright? Did you mean Lloyd?
Haha, yup. That's what I meant. Dunno what my brain did on that one.
I'd edit it if I weren't the type of person who posts a roster in a screenshot of excel instead of just typing it
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 15 Aug 2024 09:05
by YoHoChecko
NCF wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024 08:33
Similar to Lloyd, Hopper is an absolute lock unless the plan is to IR him for the beginning of the season.
You're right that Hopper is a lock as a third round pick; but man, I don't see him getting ahead of these guys and seeing the field much given the way Wilson and McDuffie have been practicing. Not that they are elite awesome players or anything, but they are consistently in with the 1s and not blowing plays or doing anything to lose the job and Hopper just still has some ways to go. Maybe this is still pre-draft bias, and I know some reporters have mentioned that they see what the team sees in him when he gets on the field, but he really feels like a guy who would be on the bubble but for being a 3rd round rookie--which happens from time to time; doesn't mean anything for his medium and long-term prospects.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 15 Aug 2024 14:22
by BSA
NCF wrote: ↑14 Aug 2024 12:53
53 guys you would least like to subject to waivers
yup
A little "gamesmenship" takes place on the main cutdown day- and I remember GB having some unbalanced depth charts after those first cuts.
Then they got balanced out over the first few weeks of the season. I also remember GB released their LS - Orzech - and then re-signed him a couple days later. That open roster spot allowed Gute to work through some procedural moves with another player.
You can see the August 2023 transactions page in the link below
https://www.packers.com/team/transactions/2023
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 17 Aug 2024 15:41
by BSA
Here's a quote from Ben Sirmans, talking about RB Emanuel Wilson in pass pro via Bill Huber
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/updating ... j5f1wyc60z
Wilson’s ability to play on third down will be a determining factor in making the 53.
“We’re still working on that part of it,” position coach Ben Sirmans said.
“He has shown that when he does attack things with the proper technique that he can block people. …
“We’ve put him in where we’ve brought pressure that he’s much more educated at what his assignment is and making really good decisions. So, I think that’s something that we’re working towards, but we’ve just got to continue to put him in those situations to get a full answer on that.
But my trust level is growing with him.”
Coaches are conservative by nature - and I don't think they'd be comfortable rolling into 2024 with 2/3 of the RBs still mastering pass pro
Both Wilson and Lloyd need more time there...which is typical...so I think they put AJ on the 53 to start the year. Gotta protect the franchise
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Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 23 Aug 2024 13:54
by BSA
My OL picks for the 53
Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Morgan-Tom-Dillard-Rhyan-Monk-Tenuta are my top 9
Jenkins can play LT or OC in a pinch
Glover needs a year
Caleb Jones didn't make the leap
Kadeem Telfort, PS
UDFA Donovan Jennings missed too much time to earn a spot in August, PS
I think Newman's released, no upside left and he just gets pushed around too much
https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/GB
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 24 Aug 2024 11:50
by NCF
Updating before the final preseason game.
OFFENSE-23
QB- Love-Pratt
RB- Jacobs-Wilson
WR- Watson-Wicks-Reed-Doubs-Melton-Dubose
TE- Kraft-Musgrave-Sims-Davis
OL- Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Morgan-Tom-Rhyan-Dillard-Monk-Glover
DEFENSE-26
DL- Clark-Slaton-Wyatt-Brooks-Wooden
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
LB- Walker-Cooper-McDuffie-Hopper-Wilson
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-King-Ballentine-Rochell
S- McKinney-Bullard-Williams-Johnson-Olapado
ST-4
K- Carlson
P- Whalen
LS- Orzech
ST- Anderson
IR-2
RB- Lloyd-Dillon
PS-12
QB- Clifford
RB-
WR- Heath-Hicks
TE- Wilson
OL- Jennings-Telfort
DL- Ford
EDGE- Cox-Mosby
LB- Young-Welch
CB- Green
S-
PATH-Hale
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 24 Aug 2024 14:49
by Scott4Pack
Mosby probably secured his spot on the 53 today.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 24 Aug 2024 22:28
by BSA
NCF wrote: ↑24 Aug 2024 11:50
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-King-Ballentine-Rochell
Rush or Cover ?
If you favor rush, then maybe Cox/Mosby makes the squad over the 7th CB ?
Given Hafley's desire to rotate the DL like crazy, I lean toward keeping a 5th EDGE - and there are 2 viable candidates
Although its fair to mention - Clark, Brooks and Wooden have all seen action on the EDGE this offseason
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 01:03
by lake shark
My guess after the preseason:
OFFENSE-25
QB- Love-Pratt
RB- Jacobs-Wilson
WR- Watson-Wicks-Reed-Doubs-Melton-Heath-Toure
TE- Musgrave-Kraft-Davis-Sims
OL- Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Morgan-Tom-Rhyan-Dillard-Monk-Telfort-Jennnings
DEFENSE-25
DL- Clark-Slaton-Wyatt-Brooks-Wooden
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
LB- Walker-Cooper-McDuffie-Wilson-Hopper-Welch
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-Ballentine-Rochell
S- McKinney-Bullard-Williams-Johnson
ST-3
K- Joseph
P- Whalen
LS- Orzech
IR-2
RB- Lloyd-Dillon
PS-12
QB- Clifford
RB- Merriweather - McCrary
WR- Dubose-Hicks
OL- Glover
DL- Ford
EDGE- Cox-Mosby
CB- King
S- Oladapo - Anderson
PATH-Hale
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 08:17
by APB
lake shark wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024 01:03
My guess after the preseason:
OFFENSE-25
QB- Love-Pratt
RB- Jacobs-Wilson
WR- Watson-Wicks-Reed-Doubs-Melton-Heath-Toure
TE- Musgrave-Kraft-Davis-Sims
OL- Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Morgan-Tom-Rhyan-Dillard-Monk-Telfort-Jennnings
DEFENSE-25
DL- Clark-Slaton-Wyatt-Brooks-Wooden
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
LB- Walker-Cooper-McDuffie-Wilson-Hopper-Welch
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-Ballentine-Rochell
S- McKinney-Bullard-Williams-Johnson
ST-3
K- Joseph
P- Whalen
LS- Orzech
IR-2
RB- Lloyd-Dillon
PS-12
QB- Clifford
RB- Merriweather - McCrary
WR- Dubose-Hicks
OL- Glover
DL- Ford
EDGE- Cox-Mosby
CB- King
S- Oladapo - Anderson
PATH-Hale
Largely this, but I dump #7 WR Toure for another RB, be it Dillon or one of the others. There is just too much attrition at the position to not safeguard the 3rd RB you like to begin the season. I'd also exchange King for Welch. As much as I like Welch, I think he's much more likely to clear waivers and add to the PS than King, who I really think has the tools to become something. I want him safe and sound on the initial roster.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 08:20
by TheSkeptic
Why are people using "Edge"? I thought the Packers were a 4-3 team. With two DE's and two DT's. And two LB's and 5 DB's in the most common configuration.
Dline: Gary Wyatt, Clark, Van Ness starters. Slayton, Brooks Wooden, Smith, Enagbare and Mosby as rotational. Cox to ps.
Kicker: Joseph Too bad about Carlson missing that chip shot final kick but it sealed his fate
Backup QB Pratt
Wilson is the #2 RB.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 08:56
by Yoop
APB wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024 08:17
lake shark wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024 01:03
My guess after the preseason:
OFFENSE-25
QB- Love-Pratt
RB- Jacobs-Wilson
WR- Watson-Wicks-Reed-Doubs-Melton-Heath-Toure
TE- Musgrave-Kraft-Davis-Sims
OL- Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Morgan-Tom-Rhyan-Dillard-Monk-Telfort-Jennnings
DEFENSE-25
DL- Clark-Slaton-Wyatt-Brooks-Wooden
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
LB- Walker-Cooper-McDuffie-Wilson-Hopper-Welch
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-Ballentine-Rochell
S- McKinney-Bullard-Williams-Johnson
ST-3
K- Joseph
P- Whalen
LS- Orzech
IR-2
RB- Lloyd-Dillon
PS-12
QB- Clifford
RB- Merriweather - McCrary
WR- Dubose-Hicks
OL- Glover
DL- Ford
EDGE- Cox-Mosby
CB- King
S- Oladapo - Anderson
PATH-Hale
Largely this, but I dump #7 WR Toure for another RB, be it Dillon or one of the others. There is just too much attrition at the position to not safeguard the 3rd RB you like to begin the season. I'd also exchange King for Welch. As much as I like Welch, I think he's much more likely to clear waivers and add to the PS than King, who I really think has the tools to become something. I want him safe and sound on the initial roster.
I was surprised to see Lafleur playing Wilson as long as he did, right now he's our #2, 2why chance injury with a player in a meaningless game, McCury (SP) or whatever his name is looked pretty good, Merriweather, not so much, just a bigger bruiser style like Dillon
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 09:38
by go pak go
OFFENSE-25
QB- Love-Pratt
RB- Jacobs-Wilson-Dillon
WR- Watson-Doubs-Reed-Wicks-Melton-Heath
TE/HB- Kraft-Musgrave-Sims-Pearson
OL- Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Rhyan-Tom-Morgan-Dillard-Monk-Telfort-Veteran (Turner)
DEFENSE-25
DL- Clark-Slaton-Wyatt-Brooks-Wooden
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
LB- Walker-Cooper-McDuffie-Wilson-Hopper-Welch
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-Ballentine-King
S- McKinney-Bullard-Williams-Johnson
ST-3
K- Joseph
P- Whalen
LS- Orzech
IR-2
RB- Lloyd-Rochell
PS-12
QB- Clifford
RB- Merriweather - McCrary
WR- Dubose-Hicks
OL- Glover - Jennings
DL- Ford
EDGE- Cox-Mosby
S- Oladapo - Anderson
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 10:33
by TheSkeptic
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024 09:38
OFFENSE-25
QB- Love-Pratt
RB- Jacobs-Wilson-Dillon
WR- Watson-Doubs-Reed-Wicks-Melton-Heath
TE/HB- Kraft-Musgrave-Sims-Pearson
OL- Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Rhyan-Tom-Morgan-Dillard-Monk-Telfort-Veteran (Turner)
DEFENSE-25
DL- Clark-Slaton-Wyatt-Brooks-Wooden
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
LB- Walker-Cooper-McDuffie-Wilson-Hopper-Welch
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-Ballentine-King
S- McKinney-Bullard-Williams-Johnson
ST-3
K- Joseph
P- Whalen
LS- Orzech
IR-2
RB- Lloyd-Rochell
PS-12
QB- Clifford
RB- Merriweather - McCrary
WR- Dubose-Hicks
OL- Glover - Jennings
DL- Ford
EDGE- Cox-Mosby
S- Oladapo - Anderson
Interesting that you kept the FB over Davis. I considered it too, but over Sims. Davis is just too valuable on ST to cut.
I suspect that Ford has a serious injury. He was limping pretty badly, probably a knee injury. Just put him on IR
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 11:25
by go pak go
I just thought it was interesting they brought Pearson back which tells me the TEs they have on the roster aren't cutting their H-back role.
Also know Davis got hurt and we may just injury settle him. But I don't keep up on this tremendously so I could certainly be wrong.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 13:34
by BSA
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024 11:25
I just thought it was interesting they brought Pearson back which tells me the TEs they have on the roster aren't cutting their H-back role.
Seems like they brought back Pearson as soon as MLF decided he wasn't playing any of his starters in the BAL game. They needed a body
With as much 12 personnel as MLF likes to run, I'd guess they'll keep 4 TEs on the 53.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 14:37
by lake shark
APB wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024 08:17
lake shark wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024 01:03
My guess after the preseason:
OFFENSE-25
QB- Love-Pratt
RB- Jacobs-Wilson
WR- Watson-Wicks-Reed-Doubs-Melton-Heath-Toure
TE- Musgrave-Kraft-Davis-Sims
OL- Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Morgan-Tom-Rhyan-Dillard-Monk-Telfort-Jennnings
DEFENSE-25
DL- Clark-Slaton-Wyatt-Brooks-Wooden
EDGE- Gary-Smith-Van Ness-Enagbare
LB- Walker-Cooper-McDuffie-Wilson-Hopper-Welch
CB- Alexander-Stokes-Valentine-Nixon-Ballentine-Rochell
S- McKinney-Bullard-Williams-Johnson
ST-3
K- Joseph
P- Whalen
LS- Orzech
IR-2
RB- Lloyd-Dillon
PS-12
QB- Clifford
RB- Merriweather - McCrary
WR- Dubose-Hicks
OL- Glover
DL- Ford
EDGE- Cox-Mosby
CB- King
S- Oladapo - Anderson
PATH-Hale
Largely this, but I dump #7 WR Toure for another RB, be it Dillon or one of the others. There is just too much attrition at the position to not safeguard the 3rd RB you like to begin the season. I'd also exchange King for Welch. As much as I like Welch, I think he's much more likely to clear waivers and add to the PS than King, who I really think has the tools to become something. I want him safe and sound on the initial roster.
I think with 2 RB on short term IR and 2 on the practice squad (available for game day callups) that will be enough. It’s not a high value position and they did something similar last season. Toure, Davis, Welch, Ballentine, Rochell make it on special teams ability while also being able to play something else at a marginal level in a pinch.
Re: Final Roster Prediction
Posted: 25 Aug 2024 15:47
by Drj820
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024 08:05
I didn't know if it would be better to start my own roster prediction thread or if we're just going to deposit predictions here, but this is where I am (I don't list specialists because I don't care even this year when we have a battle)
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Hardest cuts were Clifford, Rochell, and Mosby. Last on the roster were Dillon/Wilson, Cox, and Telfort.
Jennings will be one to watch on the iOL now that he's healthy and returning to practice.
I think Lloyd's injury might free up one additional space on the initial 53, as BSA suggested earlier.
The PS is incomplete but those are the mostly younger guys I hope we keep around. If we can have Ballentine or even Dillard as our vets on the list, that might be nice too; I dunno.
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