Rodgers isn't the problem with the jets, and receivers do matter 23, only a fool would think they don't, and the more you have the more likely you are to win, obvious to anyone not concerned with the defending the foolishness that went on with GB for 8 years.
the Jets look like a terrible, lousy blocking, tackling,
I always said, if a team actually did what yoop says they should do at WR (like the Jets have) he would then turn around and be like, "AHHH!! Why do we have holes on the OL?? Why do we have holes on Defense???" and not make the connection between the extravagant investment he wants to make at 1 position and how the rest of the roster does not get enough attention as a direct result of that.
Because resucucating a favorite argument is oh-so-close...
NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.
Roster building is more complicated than that.
THAT has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
Re: Week 9 (other) Games
Posted: 01 Nov 2024 10:49
by go pak go
I have always said it's better to have as many best players as possible.
Because resucucating a favorite argument is oh-so-close...
NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
Feel better?
Does the 472nd time typing out that same argument settle things for you? Or should we expect a 473rd go at it just to clarify how you really, REALLY feel?
NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
We are hereby gathered here to remember the great Billy Schroeder and Robert Ferguson. Oh and also Javon Walker.
You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
Feel better?
Does the 472nd time typing out that same argument settle things for you? Or should we expect a 473rd go at it just to clarify how you really, REALLY feel?
It would have made me feel better if acknowledged at the time, I am not the only one who complained, just the most vocal, our FO depended too heavily on Rodgers to float the offense, and obvious with our playoff losses, who'd the Huddle gang blame? Rodgers of course
water over the bridge, Guty is treating his hand-picked QB the way Ted did, he loaded the gun, hopefully, he continues that as these guys start to age and decline
We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
Feel better?
Does the 472nd time typing out that same argument settle things for you? Or should we expect a 473rd go at it just to clarify how you really, REALLY feel?
It would have made me feel better if acknowledged at the time, I am not the only one who complained, just the most vocal, our FO depended too heavily on Rodgers to float the offense, and obvious with our playoff losses, who'd the Huddle gang blame? Rodgers of course
water over the bridge, Guty is treating his hand-picked QB the way Ted did, he loaded the gun, hopefully, he continues that as these guys start to age and decline
It's not about value attention. It's about hitting draft picks.
J'Mon Moore and Romeo Doubs are the same attention. We hit with Doubs and not Moore.
EQSB and Dontavyion Wicks are effectively the same attention. We will likely hit with Wicks more than EQSB (though not yet full proven).
Bo Melton and Allen Lazard are both similar in terms of attention for the exception of the hits of Wicks and Doubs gives us the ability to ask Melton to be a 5 rather than a 2 or a 3.
It always comes back to the same easy rule. Just hit on your draft picks. If you hit on your draft picks...everything seems to turn out okay. Inner positional analysis is far weaker compared to just hitting your draft picks.
Does the 472nd time typing out that same argument settle things for you? Or should we expect a 473rd go at it just to clarify how you really, REALLY feel?
It would have made me feel better if acknowledged at the time, I am not the only one who complained, just the most vocal, our FO depended too heavily on Rodgers to float the offense, and obvious with our playoff losses, who'd the Huddle gang blame? Rodgers of course
water over the bridge, Guty is treating his hand-picked QB the way Ted did, he loaded the gun, hopefully, he continues that as these guys start to age and decline
It's not about value attention. It's about hitting draft picks.
J'Mon Moore and Romeo Doubs are the same attention. We hit with Doubs and not Moore.
EQSB and Dontavyion Wicks are effectively the same attention. We will likely hit with Wicks more than EQSB (though not yet full proven).
Bo Melton and Allen Lazard are both similar in terms of attention for the exception of the hits of Wicks and Doubs gives us the ability to ask Melton to be a 5 rather than a 2 or a 3.
It always comes back to the same easy rule. Just hit on your draft picks. If you hit on your draft picks...everything seems to turn out okay. Inner positional analysis is far weaker compared to just hitting your draft picks.
true, but not all 4th round drafts for receivers are the same, and one of the main reasons Doubs has done well is that defenses have honor the abilities of the others, fewer others allows more attention to Doubs.
also common sense tells us if a receiver is rarely open on schedule, then he is not sought out in critical times, I remember people saying this receiver or that one was open, even Sullivan admitted that stuff happens.
Ted had a lot of misses on defense, but rather then buy a player to fix it, he'd just wait till the next draft, then another miss, ya can't over look the part of the team that actually wins games to keep throwing resources away on the defense.
I love Thompson, but he became short sighted the last 5 years, and it probably cost us a Lombardi
Re: Week 9 (other) Games
Posted: 02 Nov 2024 08:54
by Half Empty
Ignoring someone has made it much easier to get through the forum every day. At least until now, when every post has one of their's copied. When you KNOW that all someone wants is attention, good or bad, why give it to them? Much like most folks in the movies/TV business feel that there is no bad publicity...
Ignoring someone has made it much easier to get through the forum every day. At least until now, when every post has one of their's copied. When you KNOW that all someone wants is attention, good or bad, why give it to them? Much like most folks in the movies/TV business feel that there is no bad publicity...
yep my #1 goal is to upset you, and it's working
this is a Packer chat forum, if ya don't like the chat, move on, real simple
Ignoring someone has made it much easier to get through the forum every day. At least until now, when every post has one of their's copied. When you KNOW that all someone wants is attention, good or bad, why give it to them? Much like most folks in the movies/TV business feel that there is no bad publicity...
And here I thought we were friends...
Re: Week 9 (other) Games
Posted: 02 Nov 2024 15:06
by RingoCStarrQB
Tomorrow's early games are lame. Just root for another Dallas loss I guess. I'll be pulling for another Redskins W.
