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Re: Jaire

Posted: 26 Feb 2025 19:06
by wallyuwl
BF004 wrote:
26 Feb 2025 18:36


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Wonder if they offered more than a bag of airline peanuts?

Re: Jaire

Posted: 26 Feb 2025 22:47
by APB
Yep


Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 05:24
by Yoop
bu bu but rookies never play well :rotf: Jaire begs do differ wit ya

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 07:12
by BF004
Gute does have a history of being a stone cold negotiator in trades.

Not expecting anything great, but i'm expecting probably more than the consensus. Thinking the consensus is around 4th or 5th, so I'm thinking a 3rd, maybe with an extra conditional.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 09:50
by go pak go
APB wrote:
26 Feb 2025 18:42
Frankly, I could see Jaire going to Baltimore and thriving.
I think he is going to thrive period the next place he goes at least in the short term.

My fear was always that he would end up in MN on the cheap and sock it to us.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 10:18
by musclestang
I have no doubt Jaire is going to be good, at least while healthy. How long that lasts, who knows, but he's one of the best, absolute best at what he does in the league right now. He shouldn't have anything nagging, and he's going to be motivated wherever he goes. He also seems like a guy that can hold a grudge LOL

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 10:49
by Labrev
go pak go wrote:
27 Feb 2025 09:50
My fear was always that he would end up in MN on the cheap and sock it to us.
Meh, just run Jacobs at his punk ass a few times and he'll lose his will to live.

:twisted:

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 12:52
by lake shark
APB wrote:
26 Feb 2025 22:47
Yep

This completely. The guy has a unique personality but is a great player. Just because he didn’t feel he could play on an injury doesn’t mean that he immediately needs to be traded or cut and replaced by some nobody like Ladarius Gunther. It’s a bad idea, he’s still 26…he is a huge spark plug out there. S can be worked out. Why people expect every player to shut up and ball is a bit unrealistic.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 13:02
by Yoop
lake shark wrote:
27 Feb 2025 12:52
APB wrote:
26 Feb 2025 22:47
Yep

This completely. The guy has a unique personality but is a great player. Just because he didn’t feel he could play on an injury doesn’t mean that he immediately needs to be traded or cut and replaced by some nobody like Ladarius Gunther. It’s a bad idea, he’s still 26…he is a huge spark plug out there. S can be worked out. Why people expect every player to shut up and ball is a bit unrealistic.
think that part has been blown a little out of proportion, but were not privy, so it's hard to be sure about that, nah, to me if we can't move him in a deal, cutting him would be done mostly do to inability to stay healthy enough to play :idn: when healthy Jaire is as good as any CB.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 13:07
by lake shark
Yoop wrote:
27 Feb 2025 13:02
lake shark wrote:
27 Feb 2025 12:52
APB wrote:
26 Feb 2025 22:47
Yep

This completely. The guy has a unique personality but is a great player. Just because he didn’t feel he could play on an injury doesn’t mean that he immediately needs to be traded or cut and replaced by some nobody like Ladarius Gunther. It’s a bad idea, he’s still 26…he is a huge spark plug out there. S can be worked out. Why people expect every player to shut up and ball is a bit unrealistic.
think that part has been blown a little out of proportion, but were not privy, so it's hard to be sure about that, nah, to me if we can't move him in a deal, cutting him would be done mostly do to inability to stay healthy enough to play :idn: when healthy Jaire is as good as any CB.
Not being healthy enough to play doesn’t seem like a good reason to cut. With the coming back from IR now mainstream it’s not like he’s taking a roster spot from someone if he gets hurt. By the same logic are you calling for Christian Watson to be cut? If not it seems like Jaire’s personality is the only difference.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 13:17
by musclestang
lake shark wrote:
27 Feb 2025 12:52
APB wrote:
26 Feb 2025 22:47
Yep

This completely. The guy has a unique personality but is a great player. Just because he didn’t feel he could play on an injury doesn’t mean that he immediately needs to be traded or cut and replaced by some nobody like Ladarius Gunther. It’s a bad idea, he’s still 26…he is a huge spark plug out there. S can be worked out. Why people expect every player to shut up and ball is a bit unrealistic.
I thought 28? Regardless he’s still in prime years. It’s not just shut up and ball. There is always massaging and management of personalities.

The more I replay last season and Jaires comments after the season and now? I think he decided he’s done here and that was that. If that’s the case I don’t want him anywhere near this team.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 13:48
by go pak go
Unfortunately we are never going to know what really happened with Jaw and the Packers. Always viewed him as a risk of being the guy that never ended his career here even if he was under contract.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 14:06
by TheSkeptic
APB wrote:
26 Feb 2025 18:28
Voting on pure hope he’s a Packer this season. He’s a quality albeit quirky player who has had some tough injury luck of late and lost faith in the Packer training staff. Hopefully they can find some common ground and reconcile.

If the Packers just outright release him simply to be rid of him, I’m joining @lupedafiasco’s Gutehate fan club and running for Club President.
I agree with this. No way should they just release him. They are not is desperate cap hell. Nor should they trade him for a late round draft pick. The only trade that makes sense is for a different player that fills a need for the Packers and costs less

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 14:27
by Yoop
lake shark wrote:
27 Feb 2025 13:07
Yoop wrote:
27 Feb 2025 13:02
lake shark wrote:
27 Feb 2025 12:52


This completely. The guy has a unique personality but is a great player. Just because he didn’t feel he could play on an injury doesn’t mean that he immediately needs to be traded or cut and replaced by some nobody like Ladarius Gunther. It’s a bad idea, he’s still 26…he is a huge spark plug out there. S can be worked out. Why people expect every player to shut up and ball is a bit unrealistic.
think that part has been blown a little out of proportion, but were not privy, so it's hard to be sure about that, nah, to me if we can't move him in a deal, cutting him would be done mostly do to inability to stay healthy enough to play :idn: when healthy Jaire is as good as any CB.
Not being healthy enough to play doesn’t seem like a good reason to cut. With the coming back from IR now mainstream it’s not like he’s taking a roster spot from someone if he gets hurt. By the same logic are you calling for Christian Watson to be cut? If not it seems like Jaire’s personality is the only difference.
isn't the same situation with Watson and Alexander, not yet anyway, and Jaire is very expensive for 7 games a season, with a track record of being injured, I was fine with Jaire making waves around the time we shipped out Douglas,, but it seems Jaire held a grudge, and now he's the one who wants to leave, good bye, I'am tired of relying on him, and I'd bet the coaches are as well, personally I think a parting is best for both, whether he stays or goes, CB should be a focus position this off season :idn:

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 17:38
by Papa John
My prediction prior to last season regarding Jaire was horribly wrong. There was a point I thought he could be the next Deion Sanders. Disappointingly, he has become exactly the kind of player I despise the most. Supremely talented but soft and perpetually hampered by injury. We need to cut ties. I was wrong.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 27 Feb 2025 18:48
by wallyuwl
Papa John wrote:
27 Feb 2025 17:38
My prediction prior to last season regarding Jaire was horribly wrong. There was a point I thought he could be the next Deion Sanders. Disappointingly, he has become exactly the kind of player I despise the most. Supremely talented but soft and perpetually hampered by injury. We need to cut ties. I was wrong.
He seems to only get up to play when going against the top WR. When he is motivated he is elite. But that happens 2 or 3 times a season, if healthy. And he is bad in run support. Then add in that he and the team have problems, time to divorce.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 10 Mar 2025 10:39
by Pugger
musclestang wrote:
27 Feb 2025 10:18
I have no doubt Jaire is going to be good, at least while healthy. How long that lasts, who knows, but he's one of the best, absolute best at what he does in the league right now. He shouldn't have anything nagging, and he's going to be motivated wherever he goes. He also seems like a guy that can hold a grudge LOL
There is the rub. Isn't there talk that he won't play unless he is 100%?

Re: Jaire

Posted: 15 Mar 2025 13:02
by Willink
Can't tell if it's looking more likely he's staying put or if we are just waiting til closer to the draft. Bulaga got me thinking:


Re: Jaire

Posted: 15 Mar 2025 18:21
by Scott4Pack
lake shark wrote:
27 Feb 2025 12:52
APB wrote:
26 Feb 2025 22:47
Yep

This completely. The guy has a unique personality but is a great player. Just because he didn’t feel he could play on an injury doesn’t mean that he immediately needs to be traded or cut and replaced by some nobody like Ladarius Gunther. It’s a bad idea, he’s still 26…he is a huge spark plug out there. S can be worked out. Why people expect every player to shut up and ball is a bit unrealistic.
It all depends on the effect that a player has in the locker room. The HC, GM, and team will be the best judges of that. And if their judgement call is that it's worth keeping "unique" players, they keep them.

Why fans expect that teams get the "most talented" players and then have losing records is a mystery to me. Physical talent can be 100% neutralized when players don't get and keep their heads where they need to be.

Re: Jaire

Posted: 15 Mar 2025 18:30
by Scott4Pack
Willink wrote:
15 Mar 2025 13:02
Can't tell if it's looking more likely he's staying put or if we are just waiting til closer to the draft. Bulaga got me thinking:

I agree with Bulaga.

Also, agree with the other guy about, where does a player "cross the line" as to when the team figures it's had enough. This is the Green Bay Packers we are talking about. Injuries are one thing. But this team needs to be able to count on players being around for the playoff push. Any player who can't get more than 50% of the games...

Of course, how many CBs have not missed significant playing time over the years.