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Yeah this was absolutely ridiculous.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 10:15awright which one of you fanatics called MVS last night?(joking)
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Can him now. His proven inability to innovate, think on the fly, adapt, motivate ...... justifies this well thought out assertion from a shareholder, season ticket holder, brick owner ...... I miss the days when Jurkovic #64 would back off the defensive line to cover the area where the LB would roam while Fritz had the LB innovatively do something else. Messed with the opposing teams offensive rhythm.German_Panzer wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 01:44Trust me, this thread will prosper as the season goes on. Anybody already in Fire-Pettine-Mode? I gotta say I am close. The dude just produces the same soft-bending sh*t like Dom, just with better material. He can still turn it around but little hope.
And yet, they still have their jobs and extraordinary compensation. Too bad they, and the players, can't be held to the standards that real people are.paco wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 09:55This is an incorrect statement. I do not believe the front office doesn't care about fixing weaknesses. They just believe they can fix it other ways or for cheaper. It's been proven they are wrong in most cases, but they'll continue to believe money is better spent elsewhere.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 09:53We’ve known that for a decade. This front office doesn’t care about fixing weaknesses. If that was the case we would have some better receivers and something competent as a returner.
For my part, Shepherd's fumble was harder to swallow than MVS's. We were tied 28 all and that gifted them the 3 point lead they held onto until Crosby's kick.go pak go wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 10:18Yeah this was absolutely ridiculous.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 10:15awright which one of you fanatics called MVS last night?
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For sure. It's hard for me to yell too much at MVS when the only reason we were in OT is because of MVS.Labrev wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 11:29For my part, Shepherd's fumble was harder to swallow than MVS's. We were tied 28 all and that gifted them the 3 point lead they held onto until Crosby's kick.go pak go wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 10:18Yeah this was absolutely ridiculous.Yoop wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 10:15awright which one of you fanatics called MVS last night?
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I just cannot understand how we cant find someone on a practice squad, the wire, or sitting at home right now who can competently return a kick. Thats it, thats the only skillset they need to possess. We dont need them to do anything else. There have to be thousands walking planet earth right now who can do that and only that better than shepherd right now...yet we keep shepherd on the roster and keep letting him be a liability. I dont get it.
Jamaal Williams for kick return.Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 11:59I just cannot understand how we cant find someone on a practice squad, the wire, or sitting at home right now who can competently return a kick. Thats it, thats the only skillset they need to possess. We dont need them to do anything else. There have to be thousands walking planet earth right now who can do that and only that better than shepherd right now...yet we keep shepherd on the roster and keep letting him be a liability. I dont get it.
theres only ONE Fritz,:lol:RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 10:48Can him now. His proven inability to innovate, think on the fly, adapt, motivate ...... justifies this well thought out assertion from a shareholder, season ticket holder, brick owner ...... I miss the days when Jurkovic #64 would back off the defensive line to cover the area where the LB would roam while Fritz had the LB innovatively do something else. Messed with the opposing teams offensive rhythm.German_Panzer wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 01:44Trust me, this thread will prosper as the season goes on. Anybody already in Fire-Pettine-Mode? I gotta say I am close. The dude just produces the same soft-bending sh*t like Dom, just with better material. He can still turn it around but little hope.
From an internet artlcle I found: Soon after he reached the pros, Shurmur established himself as a defensive creator. His scouting reports and game plans were occasionally 75 pages long, but his philosophy was simple.
''This game is played so fast,'' he said. ''I really believe there's a wire that goes from the brain to the feet, and the more the brain's involved, the slower the feet are. Our job is to help players respond instinctively, to recognize tendencies and pounce on them.''
Shurmur once told The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel:
''You realize there's more than one good answer, one solution to every program. And it's out there someplace. And there's always a better one. By God, if you can be the guy who finds the better one just once in a while, then you've got a little bit of an advantage and your player's got a little bit of an advantage.
''Defense always is reaction. We react to what the offense does. But I have found if we come up with something different, something a little more creative, something they have not had a chance to look at, then we get them responding to us.''
Go Pack Go.
go pak go wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 12:19Jamaal Williams for kick return.Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 11:59I just cannot understand how we cant find someone on a practice squad, the wire, or sitting at home right now who can competently return a kick. Thats it, thats the only skillset they need to possess. We dont need them to do anything else. There have to be thousands walking planet earth right now who can do that and only that better than shepherd right now...yet we keep shepherd on the roster and keep letting him be a liability. I dont get it.
Jaire Alexander for punt return.
There. I did it for you. Our backup returners have been selected. We don't need no practice squad guy. We have them on our roster.
ehhhh, you don't know if there better, (maybe faster though) Shepard had a rough go of it, but his limited speed is why the colts short kicked it, they new good hang time and coverage would give us poor field position because Shepard lacks the wheels to bring one back.
Yoop wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 12:35go pak go wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 12:19Jamaal Williams for kick return.Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 11:59
I just cannot understand how we cant find someone on a practice squad, the wire, or sitting at home right now who can competently return a kick. Thats it, thats the only skillset they need to possess. We dont need them to do anything else. There have to be thousands walking planet earth right now who can do that and only that better than shepherd right now...yet we keep shepherd on the roster and keep letting him be a liability. I dont get it.
Jaire Alexander for punt return.
There. I did it for you. Our backup returners have been selected. We don't need no practice squad guy. We have them on our roster.
ehhhh, you don't know if there better, (maybe faster though) Shepard had a rough go of it, but his limited speed is why the colts short kicked it, they new good hang time and coverage would give us poor field position because Shepard lacks the wheels to bring one back.
You can't help but disagree can you.
I know that Shepherd has touched the ball a lot less than Williams has. I also know Shepherd now has two if not 3 fumbles on the top of my head.
Jamaal Williams has 4 years of being RB and 1 year of being kick returner and has fumbled the ball way less per touch.
Jaw returned punts in college. At this point, I just need a guy who can get at least to the 20 and not fumble the ball and fair catch the ball appropriately.
That is it.
1) I just can't figure out Pettine. He showed glimpses of a good scheme when we had a talent shortage in 2018 and last year was better than we expected* going into the season, but this year he's thoroughly mediocre. I don't see how a regression to the mean by Z and Preston could set the whole defense back so much. And we mostly have the same issues regardless of whether key players like Clark, Jaire, and King are in or out. Does he need Rex Ryan and Darrelle Revis to make this scheme work???
2) I was all for giving Mennenga the benefit of the doubt, but when he trotted Shepherd out there again right after the fumble I lost any hope I had in him. Christ, we had Jamal, MVS, Taylor, and Jackson as fallbacks standing right there! At least he's significantly better than Zook, which is something, I guess...
*Except of course the 49ers games
After your review what was the primary sticking point?German_Panzer wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 15:57Would it make sense to fire him in-season and give the job to one of his assistants?
After reviewing the game I think that our defense is not bad, just not good either. It just misses that "something". Pettine can't be that dumb to not see it, I hope he might go more risky in the Playoffs.
No playmakers! Recall this one bomb from Rivers into a couple of our players? That had to be intercepted. We lack a guy like Woodson or Collins in the backfield. I feel our defense in 2010 was not much different from what we had afterwards up to now, but with one exception: we got some INT's back then, whereas our later defenses don't.
Compare to the 2010 defense ........ these guys were playmakers: Raji, Pickett, Jenkins, Matthews, Hawk, Woodson and Collins. 7 guys all played at a high level. The 2020 defense has two: Z Smith and Jaire. I wish I could say Clark and King or Savage........but I can't.German_Panzer wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 16:13No playmakers! Recall this one bomb from Rivers into a couple of our players? That had to be intercepted. We lack a guy like Woodson or Collins in the backfield. I feel our defense in 2010 was not much different from what we had afterwards up to now, but with one exception: we got some INT's back then, whereas our later defenses don't.
Incompetence at GM.Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020 11:59I just cannot understand how we cant find someone on a practice squad, the wire, or sitting at home right now who can competently return a kick. Thats it, thats the only skillset they need to possess. We dont need them to do anything else. There have to be thousands walking planet earth right now who can do that and only that better than shepherd right now...yet we keep shepherd on the roster and keep letting him be a liability. I dont get it.