Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 19 Mar 2021 12:01
Must be in the minority here, but I chose Goff.
Quite possible he is my 5th option.
Packers Huddle
The Way a Packers Forum Should Be
https://packers-huddle.com/phpBB/
Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Page 2 of 2
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 19 Mar 2021 12:08
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 19 Mar 2021 12:44
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 19 Mar 2021 16:01
Off course Dalton played for the bungles all those years.salmar80 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 02:40Didn't realize how bad Dalton's career stats really were.
Worse than 2/1 TD/INT -ratio. 87.5 career QB rating with just one >100 QB rating season and one other >90 QB rating. LOL Trub's career rating is 87.2, just .3 worse than Dalton's. Foles' is .4 worse, with much better peak seasons... Now I can see how Bears' fans were talking about paying two identical mediocre QBs.
Cousins over 10 QB rating points better than Dalton over his career. Goff 4 points higher. AR on another planet.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 19 Mar 2021 18:25
Do you mean like Rodgers?Acrobat wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 10:24If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.
So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 19 Mar 2021 19:49
Kirk Cousins' 2022 salary became fully guaranteed today. Just 45M. 
#totallyworthit
Essentially means Vikings need to extend him before next season begins. Or trade him and have the new team do the extension.
#totallyworthit
Essentially means Vikings need to extend him before next season begins. Or trade him and have the new team do the extension.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 19 Mar 2021 19:59
Actually, it's $35 million with $10 already paid for a $45 cap hit.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 20 Mar 2021 16:59
I picked Jordan Love based on the fact that he's the only NFCN QB that can't lose to the Packers in 2021. 
Oh by the way ............ this Andy Dalton move by Duh Bears is incredibly hilarious. I know Free Agency isn't over yet ........ but bear down while the gettin's good ........... really really good. What are they nuts?
GO PACK GO!!
Oh by the way ............ this Andy Dalton move by Duh Bears is incredibly hilarious. I know Free Agency isn't over yet ........ but bear down while the gettin's good ........... really really good. What are they nuts?
GO PACK GO!!
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 23 Mar 2021 07:32
No.Raptorman wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 18:25Do you mean like Rodgers?Acrobat wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 10:24If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.
So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 23 Mar 2021 10:06
Fair point, but I don't think even you believe it. I think everyone understands full well that Rodgers is more than capable of getting another Super Bowl. Just doesn't have history on his side to back that up. He will, though.Raptorman wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 18:25Do you mean like Rodgers?Acrobat wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 10:24If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.
So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 23 Mar 2021 14:19
Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.NCF wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021 10:06Fair point, but I don't think even you believe it. I think everyone understands full well that Rodgers is more than capable of getting another Super Bowl. Just doesn't have history on his side to back that up. He will, though.Raptorman wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 18:25Do you mean like Rodgers?Acrobat wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021 10:24If Cousins hadn't just been paid 35 million, I think everyone would say him. He's a victim of his insane contract creating a negative public perception. He's an above average QB who's biggest challenge is his inconsistency. Some games he looks like a great QB and then he'll look like he didn't show up for film study the next 2 weeks.
So yeah, he's 2nd best but I don't think he's capable of bringing his team to the Super Bowl unless the Vikes have a historic good defense.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 23 Mar 2021 14:28
Most teams outside of the Chiefs in 2019 have a top 5 to top 7 defense as a requirement to win it all.Raptorman wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021 14:19Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.
I think APB's point is historic defense which is something completely different than being a top 5 defense in a league during a year.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 23 Mar 2021 14:57
Every one of Brady's SB victories except one, he had a top 10 defense. The one he didn't have a top 10 defense, they were 11th. 87 out of 110 Super Bowl teams have had a top 10 defense. Of the 23 that didn't, 9 won and 14 lost. So, it's a pretty big part of the game.go pak go wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021 14:28Most teams outside of the Chiefs in 2019 have a top 5 to top 7 defense as a requirement to win it all.
I think APB's point is historic defense which is something completely different than being a top 5 defense in a league during a year.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 23 Mar 2021 15:05
Nobody will dispute that.Raptorman wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021 14:57Every one of Brady's SB victories except one, he had a top 10 defense. The one he didn't have a top 10 defense, they were 11th. 87 out of 110 Super Bowl teams have had a top 10 defense. Of the 23 that didn't, 9 won and 14 lost. So, it's a pretty big part of the game.
Again. APB said Historic Defense. A top 5 or top 10 defense in the league during a given year is not historic.
Historic is 2002 Bucs. 1985 Bears. 2012 and 2000 Ravens. 2015 Broncos. 2013 Seahawks. Defenses where it doesn't matter who is QB or on the offense...the team will be really hard to beat.
The Packers defense last year was "top 10" but I don't think anyone is clamoring it was an amazing defense because Top 10 is just slightly better than average.
Re: Poll: 2nd best QB in the NFCN
Posted: 23 Mar 2021 17:36
The 1996 Packers defense only gave up 19 TDs in the regular season.Raptorman wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021 14:19Every Championship the Packers have, their defense was ranked in the top 4 for PPG. Every single one.