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Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 08:49
by Pckfn23
It's week 8. A win is big, but a loss doesn't doom us.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:10
by salmar80
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:45
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:44
Yeah, I don't think this is any sort of a lost cause. If Stokes is our only CB again like he was this week, I will not read a single thing into a loss here. I see the imbalance between our two teams right now as temporary and injury-related, not as a statement about who either team is.
I agree. It's why I'm bummed on the timing.
A month from now and I think this would be a really, really good game.
I personally find it hard to believe we're at 6-1 while missing three premium position All-Pro -level players and so many others. There's deep quality and resilience to this team. I can't count them out vs any team.
But if it's a loss, doesn't mean our SB hopes are buried. In a couple of months, it could be us at full strength and the Cards missing three All-Pros...
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:14
by Drj820
Whats hard to believe is that it is already week 8
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:19
by go pak go
Drj820 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:14
Whats hard to believe is that it is already week 8
It is unbelievable how fast the NFL season goes when you are good.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:27
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:45
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:44
Yeah, I don't think this is any sort of a lost cause. If Stokes is our only CB again like he was this week, I will not read a single thing into a loss here. I see the imbalance between our two teams right now as temporary and injury-related, not as a statement about who either team is.
I agree. It's why I'm bummed on the timing.
A month from now and I think this would be a really, really good game.
Yeah, I'm in no way willing to use a Thursday night road game without Jaire and a smattering of other important players as a measuring stick. It's not. It's a very tough game. We could still win. I'm not a fatalist. But I'm not using this game to "learn" about how our team matches up.
We took care of what we needed to take care of in this part of our schedule. If we go 3-2 or 2-3 over the next five games, we still set up extremely well to get a 2 or 3 seed in the NFC.
Better than that? We're in the mix for the bye and 1-seed, which I'm not trying to downplay as significant. But where we are right now? I'm happy to just keep truckin' and hope we get healthy and gel at the right time. We're building for a playoff run. The regular season is our preseason, so long as we take care of business, and we've done that thus far.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:31
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:45
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:44
Yeah, I don't think this is any sort of a lost cause. If Stokes is our only CB again like he was this week, I will not read a single thing into a loss here. I see the imbalance between our two teams right now as temporary and injury-related, not as a statement about who either team is.
I agree. It's why I'm bummed on the timing.
A month from now and I think this would be a really, really good game.
you just said we'd probably lose no matter what, your a Debra downer
I think if Bak plays where in this thing all the way, we move Jenkins back to LG and pound the pig, we just knocked the rust off off Lazard and Tonyan and if Jones and Dillon move the chains those two will see more targets, keep the pass rush relentless as we did in the 2nd half yesterday and I think we match up better then people realize.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:34
by paco
Not ideal.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:34
by go pak go
Yoop wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:31
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:45
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:44
Yeah, I don't think this is any sort of a lost cause. If Stokes is our only CB again like he was this week, I will not read a single thing into a loss here. I see the imbalance between our two teams right now as temporary and injury-related, not as a statement about who either team is.
I agree. It's why I'm bummed on the timing.
A month from now and I think this would be a really, really good game.
you just said we'd probably lose no matter what, your a Debra downer
where?
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:38
by YoHoChecko
paco wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:34
Not ideal.
hahaha
ohno
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:44
by BF004
Jeff Janis should be honorary captain.
Damarious Randall should have to do the post game laundry by hand.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:45
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:34
Yoop wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:31
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:45
I agree. It's why I'm bummed on the timing.
A month from now and I think this would be a really, really good game.
you just said we'd probably lose no matter what, your a Debra downer
where?
off of 1st page, 2nd sentence, last paragraph
Based on our current health, I do not give us much of a chance in this game. I always felt this was going to be loss regardless. Unfortunately the Cardinals have been winning way more than I expected and therefore a loss will likely be the end of #1 seed hopes unless the Rams can somehow win the division.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:45
by BF004
paco wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:34
Not ideal.
Strange to me they can’t get him, and Kingsbury two weeks ago, up into a private booth.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:45
by go pak go
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:27
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:45
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 08:44
Yeah, I don't think this is any sort of a lost cause. If Stokes is our only CB again like he was this week, I will not read a single thing into a loss here. I see the imbalance between our two teams right now as temporary and injury-related, not as a statement about who either team is.
I agree. It's why I'm bummed on the timing.
A month from now and I think this would be a really, really good game.
Yeah, I'm in no way willing to use a Thursday night road game without Jaire and a smattering of other important players as a measuring stick. It's not. It's a very tough game. We could still win. I'm not a fatalist. But I'm not using this game to "learn" about how our team matches up.
We took care of what we needed to take care of in this part of our schedule. If we go 3-2 or 2-3 over the next five games, we still set up extremely well to get a 2 or 3 seed in the NFC.
Better than that? We're in the mix for the bye and 1-seed, which I'm not trying to downplay as significant. But where we are right now? I'm happy to just keep truckin' and hope we get healthy and gel at the right time. We're building for a playoff run. The regular season is our preseason, so long as we take care of business, and we've done that thus far.
I look at this game as gambling with house money.
We should lose and likely will lose but as you stated it's not a measuring stick game unless our guys on PUP and IR never return.
The pressure is on AZ. I have no expectations on Thursday. I'm just gonna enjoy the game. Kind of freeing actually.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:46
by go pak go
Yoop wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:45
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:34
Yoop wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:31
you just said we'd probably lose no matter what, your a Debra downer
where?
off of 1st page, 2nd sentence, last paragraph
Based on our current health, I do not give us much of a chance in this game. I always felt this was going to be loss regardless. Unfortunately the Cardinals have been winning way more than I expected and therefore a loss will likely be the end of #1 seed hopes unless the Rams can somehow win the division.
I stand by that statement 100%.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:47
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:45
I look at this game as gambling with house money.
We should lose and likely will lose but as you stated it's not a measuring stick game unless our guys on PUP and IR never return.
The pressure is on AZ. I have no expectations on Thursday. I'm just gonna enjoy the game. Kind of freeing actually.
Exact
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:47
by BF004
Screw all you guys who don’t think we can win. Asinine.
Will we win? I’d imagine <50% odds, but $%@# if we can’t win.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:48
by YoHoChecko
BF004 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:47
Screw all you guys who don’t think we can win. Asinine.
Will we win? I’d imagine <50% odds, but $%@# if we can’t win.
I don't think anyone has said we can't. Me and go pack go seem pessimistic but both have gone out of the way to say we may win anyway, but the expectations, given the health, are low. Who is saying we can't?
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:48
by BF004
Also, how does it always seem these potential like, #1 seed implication games mid season are always on the road. We never get these at home.
I do gotta say I’d be liking our odds really really well if this was in Lambeau.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:52
by go pak go
BF004 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:47
Screw all you guys who don’t think we can win. Asinine.
Will we win? I’d imagine <50% odds, but $%@# if we can’t win.
I thought you were a stats guy?
Don't think we can win is very different than not thinking we will win.
Absolutely have a chance. I'd say 20% to 30% chance.
Feel like this is a lot of disagreement language when at the heart of the matter we are in agreement.
Re: Green Bay Packers @ Arizona Cardinals - Thursday 7:20 PM CST
Posted: 25 Oct 2021 09:55
by go pak go
BF004 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021 09:48
Also, how does it always seem these potential like, #1 seed implication games mid season are always on the road. We never get these at home.
I do gotta say I’d be liking our odds really really well if this was in Lambeau.
If LA Rams beat the Cardinals in a few weeks, it may end up being a very different story where we finally get to host that pivatol Conference game.
But I agree. It does always seem like the big NFC monster is always us playing them on the road.
at Philly in the 2000's
at Dallas in 2007
at Atlanta in 2011
at Seattle 2014
at Arizona 2015
at Atlanta 2016
at San Fran 2019
at Tampa 2020
Only one I can think of we hosted the NFC monster was 2012 vs San Fran (but it was week 1 so it didn't feel like it)