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Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 15:30
by Labrev
Haha! Yeah, I fell for it. I could totally see McGinn putting out a Hot Take like "There are no Round 1 or 2 WRs!" in a deep receiver draft.

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 15:59
by NCF
Do we have to tell [mention]Yoop[/mention] eventually?

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 16:35
by go pak go
bud fox wrote:
01 Apr 2022 15:19
go pak go wrote:
01 Apr 2022 07:25
The case I like about the Wilsons, Olaves and Williams of this draft is they do seem to have good speed in their tape.

I think speed is what we need most.

The Packers ranked #1 last year in WRs being "open" and "wide open"

Our scheme is designed to get players open. So the next thing is having players able to do something with it once they have the space.
Where is that stat from about being most open wrs? Interested to see the source.
Watch Peter Bukowski's "Packers Need Speed" episode. It's said there.

I'm gonna pull a yoop and say I don't have time to look it up - and quite frankly I don't really want to. I'm over the "everything is linked to Rodgers" conversations. But I have seen that from other places in the past too. Schematically the Packers do a really good job of getting players in space.

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 16:38
by go pak go
NCF wrote:
01 Apr 2022 15:59
Do we have to tell @Yoop eventually?
It was really good because yoop loooooves McGinn. Until it goes against something he wants to believe. :rotf:

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 17:04
by NCF
[mention]salmar80[/mention] Is this a rest of the world thing or just a made up US thing?

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 17:09
by Foosball
Use a 1 and a 4 to trade for Metcalf
Use the other 1 and 4 to move up and grab Olave or Williams

Use the two 2s and the 3 to draft an Edge, OT, and a (TE or Safety).

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 17:13
by NCF
Foosball wrote:
01 Apr 2022 17:09
Use a 1 and a 4 to trade for Metcalf
Use the other 1 and 4 to move up and grab Olave or Williams

Use the two 2s and the 3 to draft an Edge, OT, and a (TE or Safety).
Whether they suck or not?

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 17:22
by go pak go
NCF wrote:
01 Apr 2022 17:13
Foosball wrote:
01 Apr 2022 17:09
Use a 1 and a 4 to trade for Metcalf
Use the other 1 and 4 to move up and grab Olave or Williams

Use the two 2s and the 3 to draft an Edge, OT, and a (TE or Safety).
Whether they suck or not?
You heard the man.

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 17:50
by Yoop
bud fox wrote:
01 Apr 2022 15:19
go pak go wrote:
01 Apr 2022 07:25
The case I like about the Wilsons, Olaves and Williams of this draft is they do seem to have good speed in their tape.

I think speed is what we need most.

The Packers ranked #1 last year in WRs being "open" and "wide open"

Our scheme is designed to get players open. So the next thing is having players able to do something with it once they have the space.
Where is that stat from about being most open wrs? Interested to see the source.
ya I'd like to see that myself, Rodgers forced the ball to Adams 150 times last year into constant double coverage while everyone else was wide open :thwap:

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 18:44
by RingoCStarrQB
go pak go wrote:
01 Apr 2022 07:25
The case I like about the Wilsons, Olaves and Williams of this draft is they do seem to have good speed in their tape.

I think speed is what we need most.

The Packers ranked #1 last year in WRs being "open" and "wide open"

Our scheme is designed to get players open. So the next thing is having players able to do something with it once they have the space.
Where did the Packers rank in missing wide open receivers in key down and distance situations? :argue:

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 18:57
by go pak go
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Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 19:01
by go pak go
"The last 2 years, MLF has been top 3 in receivers open percentage and wide open percentage according to NextGen stats"

Starts at 10:20.


Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 19:24
by salmar80
NCF wrote:
01 Apr 2022 17:04
@salmar80 Is this a rest of the world thing or just a made up US thing?
It's a thing in surprisingly many places, probably because of it's British origin.

I just pranked my Russian friend good.

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 19:40
by go pak go
salmar80 wrote:
01 Apr 2022 19:24
NCF wrote:
01 Apr 2022 17:04
@salmar80 Is this a rest of the world thing or just a made up US thing?
It's a thing in surprisingly many places, probably because of it's British origin.

I just pranked my Russian friend good.
Um. My entire knowledge has its foundation in the Simpson's. I won many a High School Quiz Bowl competitions (vs nerdy homeschoolers no less...) to the surprise of the people watching how "I know stuff" because of the Simpson's.

April Fool's Day was started by Pagans as it was their New Year. The Christians ridiculed the pagans for their whacky calendar. I guess could be British. But more like North Umbria, Wessex, Mercia Britain. :lol:

And to brighten the day. Here is a great Simpson's April Fools Day episode. The level of jokes in this show still has me laughing to this day.


Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 01 Apr 2022 19:52
by salmar80
@yoop in Finland we say: Aprillia aprillia, syö silliä, juo kuumaa kuravettä päälle!

"April fool April fool, eat raw herring, drink warm muddy water with it!"

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 02 Apr 2022 05:17
by Yoop
NCF wrote:
01 Apr 2022 15:59
Do we have to tell @Yoop eventually?
I fall for some outlandish thing every April 1, Just Jeff would get me every year. :hide:

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 02 Apr 2022 05:20
by Yoop
salmar80 wrote:
01 Apr 2022 19:52
@yoop in Finland we say: Aprillia aprillia, syö silliä, juo kuumaa kuravettä päälle!

"April fool April fool, eat raw herring, drink warm muddy water with it!"
haha, jokes on me. should have known, even Bob McGinn wouldn't be this cruel to a bunch of good receivers :thwap:

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 02 Apr 2022 06:00
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
01 Apr 2022 08:46
This year I've been underwhelmed by the DTs and WRs. I haven't looked at CB much. I love Kyler Gordon late Day 2 for us but I bet he goes way earlier than I would like.
seriously now, don't you think the abundance of quality OL and edge rushers over whelms your eval of the WR's along with 3 safety in the top 30 ?

again I will go back to the big boards, Edge and OL top Jeremiah's top 50 with 9 each, wr 8, lber 5, cb 5, dt 5, safety 4 qb 4 and rb 2

without looking edge and OL seem higher then usual, as well as WR

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 02 Apr 2022 06:22
by salmar80
Yoop wrote:
02 Apr 2022 05:17
NCF wrote:
01 Apr 2022 15:59
Do we have to tell @Yoop eventually?
I fall for some outlandish thing every April 1, Just Jeff would get me every year. :hide:
Trying to keep JustJeff's thing going... He got us good a few times. :pray:

Real McGinn hasn't done his WR piece yet. For the "WR analysis", I just copy-pasted all the negative off NFL.com's evaluations (except for Jameson, that one I made up) without any of the positives. If you omit the positives, everyone looks like a 3rd rounder at best.

Re: McGinn's WR draft rankings - None worth first 2 rounds!?

Posted: 02 Apr 2022 06:27
by Yoop
salmar80 wrote:
02 Apr 2022 06:22
Yoop wrote:
02 Apr 2022 05:17
NCF wrote:
01 Apr 2022 15:59
Do we have to tell @Yoop eventually?
I fall for some outlandish thing every April 1, Just Jeff would get me every year. :hide:
Trying to keep JustJeff's thing going... He got us good a few times. :pray:

Real McGinn hasn't done his WR piece yet. For the "WR analysis", I just copy-pasted all the negative off NFL.com's evaluations (except for Jameson, that one I made up) without any of the positives. If you omit the positives, everyone looks like a 3rd rounder at best.
I looked right past the April fools heading :rotf: you got me good Salmar :aok: