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Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:18
by lupedafiasco
Frustration challenge by LaFleur. Things not going his way and he panics.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:19
by NCF
Giants get the ball in the 3rd, so not giving up a long drive here would be nice. So far, so not good.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:19
by Drj820
Guess refs not calling holding tonight

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:19
by YoHoChecko
BF004 wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:17
How do we not have a more competent review process?

We even got a see a replay on TV that saw it was a catch before the next snap. Telling me you don’t got a team of guys in the booth watching every angle with headsets directly to LaFleur?
Guys. Look at the replay. MLF is staring directly at the play. He wasn't baited; our system didn't fail him.

MLF personally thought he saw the ball bobble when Robinson took his first hand off of it. He was STARING at the play. That was his red flag and his alone. It wasn't the result of anything other than his own eyes failing him--or his brain's interpretation of it.

Why does everything have to be something bigger?

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:21
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:19
BF004 wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:17
How do we not have a more competent review process?

We even got a see a replay on TV that saw it was a catch before the next snap. Telling me you don’t got a team of guys in the booth watching every angle with headsets directly to LaFleur?
Guys. Look at the replay. MLF is staring directly at the play. He wasn't baited; our system didn't fail him.

MLF personally thought he saw the ball bobble when Robinson took his first hand off of it. He was STARING at the play. That was his red flag and his alone. It wasn't the result of anything other than his own eyes failing him--or his brain's interpretation of it.

Why does everything have to be something bigger?
You have the ability to confirm via video, you do it. No one told him it was a bobble because it wasn’t, so I don’t care what he thinks he saw.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:22
by go pak go
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:22
by Crazylegs Starks
Preston, Wilson, and McDuffie did good!

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:22
by BF004
YoHoChecko wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:19
BF004 wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:17
How do we not have a more competent review process?

We even got a see a replay on TV that saw it was a catch before the next snap. Telling me you don’t got a team of guys in the booth watching every angle with headsets directly to LaFleur?
Guys. Look at the replay. MLF is staring directly at the play. He wasn't baited; our system didn't fail him.

MLF personally thought he saw the ball bobble when Robinson took his first hand off of it. He was STARING at the play. That was his red flag and his alone. It wasn't the result of anything other than his own eyes failing him--or his brain's interpretation of it.

Why does everything have to be something bigger?
So yes, maybe we shouldn’t rely on someone’s eyes on the sideline when you can have guys in the booth with slow mo and multiple angles. I don’t like that process. So I guess it’s something bigger?

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:22
by Drj820
That was a formation from the 1940s. Nice

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:23
by Cdragon
Great stop! C'mon O!

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:23
by Pckfn23
Nice Stop!

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:23
by NCF
Horrible run D, horrible run offense, pitiful short yardage run offense, but somehow unbelievably awesome short yardage run D.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:23
by BF004
Woof.

Slow developing sweep with pulling linemen on a 4th and 1.

Don’t think this lot would be very happy about that call.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:24
by Drj820
YoHoChecko wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:19
BF004 wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:17
How do we not have a more competent review process?

We even got a see a replay on TV that saw it was a catch before the next snap. Telling me you don’t got a team of guys in the booth watching every angle with headsets directly to LaFleur?
Guys. Look at the replay. MLF is staring directly at the play. He wasn't baited; our system didn't fail him.

MLF personally thought he saw the ball bobble when Robinson took his first hand off of it. He was STARING at the play. That was his red flag and his alone. It wasn't the result of anything other than his own eyes failing him--or his brain's interpretation of it.

Why does everything have to be something bigger?
Are you on your period again? It’s my opinion the way the receiver ran like he wanted to hurry up the next play affected the decision to hurry up and challenge. If you disagree that’s cool but no one is making anything a scandal

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:24
by lulu
lupedafiasco wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:18
Frustration challenge by LaFleur. Things not going his way and he panics.
Reminded me of a McCarthy challenge.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:24
by YoHoChecko
NCF wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:21
You have the ability to confirm via video, you do it. No one told him it was a bobble because it wasn’t, so I don’t care what he thinks he saw.
I'm not saying it wasn't a bad challenge or his mistake.

I;m saying it's dumb how everyone jumped in here to come up with some reason to make it more than it was. Oh, he got fooled by the opposition. Oh, the Packer's coaching booth should have caught that. I bet they did. MLF challenged that play right away. He didn't check. He didn't think he needed to. Because the guy who makes the decision was WATCHING with as good of an angle as anyone.

He made a bad challenge. But it wasn't like some big stupid anything.

This is why I always wind up quitting gameday threads for half the season. Everyone is arguing about dumb things (myself included) mid-game


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see?
Drj820 wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:24
Are you on your period again? It’s my opinion the way the receiver ran like he wanted to hurry up the next play affected the decision to hurry up and challenge. If you disagree that’s cool but no one is making anything a scandal

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:26
by Drj820
YoHoChecko wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:24
NCF wrote:
11 Dec 2023 20:21
You have the ability to confirm via video, you do it. No one told him it was a bobble because it wasn’t, so I don’t care what he thinks he saw.
I'm not saying it wasn't a bad challenge or his mistake.

I;m saying it's dumb how everyone jumped in here to come up with some reason to make it more than it was. Oh, he got fooled by the opposition. Oh, the Packer's coaching booth should have caught that. I bet they did. MLF challenged that play right away. He didn't check. He didn't think he needed to. Because the guy who makes the decision was WATCHING with as good of an angle as anyone.

He made a bad challenge. But it wasn't like some big stupid anything.

This is why I always wind up quitting gameday threads for half the season. Everyone is arguing about dumb things (myself included) mid-game
We just talking man. I think he didn’t wait due to receivers reaction.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:26
by NCF
Nothing good about that decision.

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:27
by Drj820
Ooof

Re: Packers @ Giants GDT: Monday, Dec. 11th, 7:15 PM CST

Posted: 11 Dec 2023 20:27
by go pak go
Zach Tom is getting his ass kicked tonight.