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Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 13 Mar 2021 19:23
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 15:33
Yoop wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 13:40
go pak go wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 13:35
Depth isn't a bad thing.
It gets really annoying listening to fans wanting to cut Player X because we don't need him and then b*tch in October on how we don't have any depth.
Last year it was right tackle and how much of a waste it was to have 3 starting tackles....until we needed them.
The Packers may also know something about Preston Smith that we don't during the 2020 season. Perhaps an injury or something. I feel very good about Preston being on the Packers if he produces like he did in 2019. If we see the same 2020 Preston Smith however in 2021, then yes...it will be a poor decision.
He was that bad last year.
No he wasn't, I just pointed out that he only had 10 or so less pressures then Z and he dropped into coverage 150+ times, with I'am thinking about 37 tackles, so how is that sooooooo bad?
He was bad. He graded very, very poorly by Andy Herman and I believe it.
He usually week in and week out was in the bottom 3 worst graded Packers in defense.
It's fun during the off-season to try and sugar coat player performances but that is not the case with Preston.
He had a very poor 2020.
And Z Smith didn't have a great 2020 either. I felt like Z got bailed out by some easy sacks to make his top line stat look respectable, but he really didn't have much impact either.
your right, now I just read another stat sheet that gives him 26 TP's so thats a huge drop from the 60 he had in 019, so lets hope he return to 019 form, it pointed out that Preston normally averages around 45 pressures a season, when ya figure Gary had 44 PT's in 1/3 the snaps ya have to think this could be his break out season, still glad we can keep Preston around, he'll be motivated to play better or be gone next march.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 13 Mar 2021 19:28
by Labrev
I was waiting all season for Z to have that dominant performance that he put up @MIN last year. That was one of the most enjoyable games by a Packer I have ever watched. Sadly, that Z just did not show up for us. And we *really* could have used it at the end.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 13 Mar 2021 19:39
by YoHoChecko
This is a startling amount of Preston Smith content
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 13 Mar 2021 20:05
by lupedafiasco
The willingness to restructure Preston and Turner over Rodgers is very telling on the future of this team and its very sad.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 13 Mar 2021 20:30
by paco
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 20:05
The willingness to restructure Preston and Turner over Rodgers is very telling on the future of this team and its very sad.
Are you new?
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 13 Mar 2021 20:35
by Pckfn23
I am not sure why it's telling or why it's sad other than to support a completely unrelated narrative.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 13 Mar 2021 21:14
by go pak go
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 20:05
The willingness to restructure Preston and Turner over Rodgers is very telling on the future of this team and its very sad.
It tells us we are deferring money and that's it.
Who is deferring makes no difference.
The good thing about Preston is he actually took a pay cut and likely $3 million off of the table. I respect that.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 07:31
by Yoop
just maybe Gute is waiting till he see's who will be available in FA and if they will help the team before reworking Rodgers contract so he can add a player or two in FA.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 07:42
by YoHoChecko
They’re probably working on all the ones that need the player/agent agreement first to see where they are. Rodgers’ contract allowed for them to do simple restructures without him. He’s the slush fund that can be tapped for the right need at a moment’s notice. Right now they’re working to see how far they can get without that, and this set a budget for free agency
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 08:24
by NCF
Yep, however they make this work, I believe Rodgers will be the last domino.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 08:34
by go pak go
I mean we still at minimum need what....$10 million freed up? And that's just for draft picks, tendering Robert Tonyan and have some season cushion (like for instance....if Preston Smith has a monster year....we need cap to pay him for that)
So we still have a long way to go.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 09:50
by Pugger
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 19:39
This is a startling amount of Preston Smith content
Probably because a lot of fans thought he was leaving this offseason.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 10:02
by Pckfn23
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This does not include the latest Adrian Amos restructure that saves $750K.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 10:14
by Pckfn23
Here is the rookie draft pool:
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While that number is $9 million it will push the bottom salaries off the 51 which will look like this:
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#254 - $18,545
#218 - $30,660
#212 - $36,050
#177 - $56,331
#173 - $65,801
#142 - $117,130
#135 - $34,735
#92 - $87,931
#62 - $212,683
#29 - $1,295,172
So this is the number we need to clear on the 51 to be under the cap - $1,955,038
Here is where we are right now with Amos' restructure - $1,811,383
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 10:24
by Drj820
Pugger wrote: ↑14 Mar 2021 09:50
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 19:39
This is a startling amount of Preston Smith content
Probably because a lot of fans thought he was leaving this offseason.
And now most have to act like it’s a good idea he is staying lol
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 10:27
by Drj820
If Adams, 12, and Z agree to get restructured we can still create quite a bit of space. Enough to be able to fill some holes in free agency.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 10:29
by APB
Drj820 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2021 10:27
If Adams, 12, and Z agree to get restructured we can still create quite a bit of space. Enough to be able to fill some holes in free agency.
I think the team would be better served with extensions for Z and Adams. The Rodgers contract is an obvious and simple restructure, as you said.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 11:33
by Christo
paco wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 12:14
I think there is a good chance we don't touch Rodgers' contract. And Packers fans will flip out.
A part of me thinks that's true. But the team keeps talking about adding players in the off season or at least hints to that effect. They can't do that unless they rework Rodgers contract.
Deep down, I don't see them being all that active in free agency.
Another thing that seems silly, all of the talk I'm hearing about signing Will Fuller. Don't see how they can add him before a deal is worked out with Adams first.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 13:17
by go pak go
Honestly if we can find ourselves a deal at CB or DL....I think it will be a really successful Free Agency for us.
We don't need much. And I just don't see much value in signing a WR unless it is for SUPER cheap. I think we also look at a Vet Minimum RB deal.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 14 Mar 2021 14:56
by paco
Christo wrote: ↑14 Mar 2021 11:33
paco wrote: ↑13 Mar 2021 12:14
I think there is a good chance we don't touch Rodgers' contract. And Packers fans will flip out.
A part of me thinks that's true. But the team keeps talking about adding players in the off season or at least hints to that effect. They can't do that unless they rework Rodgers contract.
Deep down, I don't see them being all that active in free agency.
Another thing that seems silly, all of the talk I'm hearing about signing Will Fuller. Don't see how they can add him before a deal is worked out with Adams first.
I fully expect an Adams deal to be announced at some point.