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Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 03 Dec 2021 13:13
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021 12:08
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021 10:27
go pak go wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021 10:08
Yeah. I would say I started to really notice it with the Chiefs and beyond.
really, I noticed it when the PFF grades came out
Which was when?
a bit of sultry sarcasm, who watches OL play? seriously now how is it possible to watch OL play and also the action around the ball, sure we notice the poor play, the stuffed run, or the pass rusher whip the OL man, other then that it takes a concerted effort to focus and grade OL, that was my thought when you said the left side did poorly and you've really noticed since the KC game, I can't do both, and why I said I use the PFF or some other grader to tell me how they did, sure I may have a inkling, but the grades tend to confirm or deny what I think.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 03 Dec 2021 14:18
by go pak go
Yoop wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021 13:13
go pak go wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021 12:08
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021 10:27
really, I noticed it when the PFF grades came out
Which was when?
a bit of sultry sarcasm, who watches OL play? seriously now how is it possible to watch OL play and also the action around the ball, sure we notice the poor play, the stuffed run, or the pass rusher whip the OL man, other then that it takes a concerted effort to focus and grade OL, that was my thought when you said the left side did poorly and you've really noticed since the KC game, I can't do both, and why I said I use the PFF or some other grader to tell me how they did, sure I may have a inkling, but the grades tend to confirm or deny what I think.
All I was asking is when you noticed Billy Turner take a turn based on the PFF grades. It should be pretty to see the grade numbers start to fall off if that is what you are using.
I too rely primarily on other graders to either have me re-watch players that are contrary to my initial thoughts and biases or confirm what I thought I saw while watching the game.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 03 Dec 2021 16:39
by BF004
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 03 Dec 2021 18:56
by YoHoChecko
BF004 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021 16:39
If I just woke up from a coma and this was the only thing I knew about the Green Bay Packers' 2021 season, I'd have a pretty darn good feel for how well things were going. I think most people would say that this was exactly what we needed for improvement.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 03 Dec 2021 19:57
by wallyuwl
BF004 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021 16:39
Tells you how bad King was last year.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 04 Dec 2021 07:33
by Yoop
wallyuwl wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021 19:57
BF004 wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021 16:39
Tells you how bad King was last year.
I tend to disagree Wally, I think it tells us how often King is hurt and plays hurt.
the increased production that really stands out here is how much better Campbell plays for us versus his old team
also Preston Smiths bounce back year has been nice to see
hard to buy into this increases with Jenkins, has his play at tackle been better then his play at G, not imo.
Gary to me is the most legit production increase, he should have played more last year in place of Preston.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 04 Dec 2021 09:08
by Pckfn23
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 04 Dec 2021 10:15
by Yoop
I looked at PFR earlier to check out Lowery, I would have looked at PFF but I also wont pay there viewer demands, but even PFR shows how very average Lowery is and also inconsistent, PFR has him at 31 tackles and 9 pressures this season, 2018 was Lowery's best season with 44 tackles and 14 pressures.
Lowery runs hot and cold, completely absent in some games to very good in others.
imo if a DT has a 3 tackle game average, then buy him a bottle of Canadian mist, if his average is closer to 4 tackles buy him Canadian Royal, Lowery falls below, so give him a bottle of Ripple and a bus ticket to Jacksonville
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... wrDe00.htm
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 04 Dec 2021 12:44
by Pckfn23
The point of the tweet is to show that he is having a productive pass rushing season, especially compared to the last 2...
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 04 Dec 2021 22:58
by BF004
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 05 Dec 2021 13:03
by BF004
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 05 Dec 2021 21:18
by Trudge
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 00:35
by Trudge
BF004 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2021 13:03
Hey, I was there!
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 01:09
by texas
Trudge wrote: ↑06 Dec 2021 00:35
BF004 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2021 13:03
Hey, I was there!
Dang were you on the sidelines?
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 01:17
by Trudge
texas wrote: ↑06 Dec 2021 01:09
Trudge wrote: ↑06 Dec 2021 00:35
BF004 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2021 13:03
Hey, I was there!
Dang were you on the sidelines?
Close, row 5.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 01:29
by texas
Trudge wrote: ↑06 Dec 2021 01:17
texas wrote: ↑06 Dec 2021 01:09
Trudge wrote: ↑06 Dec 2021 00:35
Hey, I was there!
Dang were you on the sidelines?
Close, row 5.
Wow that's badass!
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 13:56
by NCF
It's getting closer to reality.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 14:04
by BF004
Really really want them all back this week.
"Easy" game to come back on. A reeling bares team at home. 5 weeks of play before the playoffs, get back to game shape by then an in the flow of things. Really ideally get another by week and they are on track at 100%.
Hate if they come back soo late in the year, especially Bak and Z who really haven't played this year. Just be too hard to rely on them too much in those really intense January games if they aren't fully in game shape yet.
Be a lot easier to maybe ease in Z and Jaire, can keep them on pitch counts. But always gunna be tricky just to drop Bak into the lineup and expect him to play 100% of the snaps. But feels like at home against the Bares probably the best time to do it.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 15:17
by go pak go
Yeah it would be really great to see all three back this week.
Limit Jaw and Z to less than 30% of snaps. Hopefully the game is out of reach in the 2nd half where they don't need to play.
MLF did not rule out Bakh being on a pitch count at all. Wouldn't be surprised to see Bak and Nijman rotate series.
Re: General Packer News 2021
Posted: 06 Dec 2021 15:29
by BF004