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Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 16:56
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:40
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:26
TE or WR, it doesn't matter, in the rules they are indistinguishable. All that matters is eligible number. If you have 2 eligible numbers on the same side and both are on the LOS, the inside one is ineligible. This is why Kittle should have been ineligible.
In high school teams can leave a tackle uncovered, but in the NFL there must be an eligible player as the last man.
what about stacked receivers, or 2 TE's on the same side, we see that all the time, what makes that legal is the opposite side receiver lines up behind center, hense only 2 on the los.
more and more I'am thinking Kittle was legal
If you have 2 TEs on the same the outside one must be off the line for the inside one to be eligible. Kittle was ineligible.
Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 16:59
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:56
BF004 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:40
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:22
you can't have 3 eligible receivers on the los, according to the rules unless I mis understood what I read, you CAN stack 2 TE's on the same side on the LOS, Gronk and Hernandez did it, we've done it with Lewis and Tonyan, but you can't have another eligible receiver on the LOS anywhere, right?
I think what I said is accurate, I agree ya need always have 7 players on the LOS, and only two are eligible to catch a pass from that pre set spot, the other two have to line up behind the center, in 5 wide, the fifth has to designate himself as a receiver, but still can't have a ineligible player outside of him, does that sound right?
there was also something about uniform numbers, like lineman, any player that wears one of these numbers has to designate any time there going out to catch a pass, along with not lining up outside of a eligible receiver
No, you can’t have 3 eligible receivers on the LOS. Don’t over think it. You need 7 people on the LOS. No more no less. 4 off the LOS. Doesn’t have to be behind center, simply off LOS.
Those 4 and the 2 ends are eligible.
Every question and clarification you had above can be answered by folllowing that rubric.
And then also yes, both posts of mine you quoted above, I also mentioned if a person with an eligible number is lined up in an eligible spot, they have to report to the ref and they announce it to the D.
I'am not over thinking this, you told me that twice, and in order to not be on the los they have to be lined up back of the centers feet.
the rule says only 2 eligible receivers can line up on the los, and a ineligible number can't be lined up outside of them, in Kittles situation that was not the case at all, rather, and this is the catch, the niners had Auyik out on the right, on the los, Kittle in the slot on the other side with the FB outside of him, all have eligible numbers, so there was no ineligible player covering anyone, it had to be about the 3rd eligible receiver on the line.
now, was Auyik far enough back to not be considered ON the LOS?
again I'am not trying to over think this, but I'd think if Kittle was in fact ineligible the Seahawks or some NFL people would have raised a bigger fuss.
Aiyuk doesn't matter. What matters in this case is that Kittle was on the line AND Jus. was on the line outside of him. That is what makes Kittle ineligible.
Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 17:04
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:56
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:40
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:26
TE or WR, it doesn't matter, in the rules they are indistinguishable. All that matters is eligible number. If you have 2 eligible numbers on the same side and both are on the LOS, the inside one is ineligible. This is why Kittle should have been ineligible.
In high school teams can leave a tackle uncovered, but in the NFL there must be an eligible player as the last man.
what about stacked receivers, or 2 TE's on the same side, we see that all the time, what makes that legal is the opposite side receiver lines up behind center, hense only 2 on the los.
more and more I'am thinking Kittle was legal
If you have 2 TEs on the same the outside one must be off the line for the inside one to be eligible. Kittle was ineligible.
for the sake of argument, is that hold true for stacked receivers, cause I don't remember seeing them that way.
Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 17:09
by Pckfn23
BF004 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:48
Ok, I will say I was wrong when looking for a good source.
You must have at least 7 on the LOS. You can have more.
I was not sure about more than 7 in the NFL. In HS you can have 10 on the LOS if you want, but then only the outside 2 are eligible receivers.
Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 17:09
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 17:04
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:56
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:40
what about stacked receivers, or 2 TE's on the same side, we see that all the time, what makes that legal is the opposite side receiver lines up behind center, hense only 2 on the los.
more and more I'am thinking Kittle was legal
If you have 2 TEs on the same the outside one must be off the line for the inside one to be eligible. Kittle was ineligible.
for the sake of argument, is that hold true for stacked receivers, cause I don't remember seeing them that way.
Yes it does. 2 have to be off and 1 is on. If 2 are on the LOS, then the inside one is ineligible.
Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 17:13
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 17:09
Yoop wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 17:04
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 16:56
If you have 2 TEs on the same the outside one must be off the line for the inside one to be eligible. Kittle was ineligible.
for the sake of argument, is that hold true for stacked receivers, cause I don't remember seeing them that way.
Yes it does. 2 have to be off and 1 is on. If 2 are on the LOS, then the inside one is ineligible.
gotcha
got ya
Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 17:15
by Pckfn23
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Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 17:20
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023 17:15
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Re: The Playoffs
Posted: 02 Feb 2023 17:42
by Ghost_Lombardi
Eligible for what?
just kidding...