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I am still a proponent of the No-True-#1 model at WR, even as the fair-weather fans that celebrated it in 2023 have since abandoned it.
But we need a Watson replacement, at the very least. He will miss some time this year and then when he does get back, though it could be a lot earlier than expected, it still takes the player time to trust their knee again. That part usually comes the season after they have formally returned. So I see it as us not truly getting him back until 2026.
I think we also could really use a guy who can be a capable backup for Doubs this year, given his head injuries and general temperament issue, and then replace his role in the offense next year.
Draft a guy Top-100, definitely, but I would also like to get someone from the bargain bin. A 1-year MVS reunion does make sense if both parties are open to it. He is still effective in the role we would want him in.
But we need a Watson replacement, at the very least. He will miss some time this year and then when he does get back, though it could be a lot earlier than expected, it still takes the player time to trust their knee again. That part usually comes the season after they have formally returned. So I see it as us not truly getting him back until 2026.
I think we also could really use a guy who can be a capable backup for Doubs this year, given his head injuries and general temperament issue, and then replace his role in the offense next year.
Draft a guy Top-100, definitely, but I would also like to get someone from the bargain bin. A 1-year MVS reunion does make sense if both parties are open to it. He is still effective in the role we would want him in.
“Most other nations don't allow a terrorist to be their leader.”
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
Absolutely, I’m not suggesting the WR position should be ignored in remaining FA or the draft. I’m just saying all the handwringing over who we didn't sign in FA isn’t necessary.
One thing I do appreciate about how the Packers approach FA is that they haven’t been chasing the premium players at premium positions. They’re going after premium players at the financially deflated positions. They’re getting premium players like X, Jacobs, and now Banks at positions that aren’t demanding top end all-around contracts.
They're not cheap, mind you, but they’re not bank busters either. You can amass a lot of talent by avoiding certain bank busting FA position groups and, instead, finding that positional talent on the cheap through the draft. Gute hasn’t been entirely successful, yet, in filling those high dollar position groups (Edge, WR, DL) with his drafted players but he’s taken swings and acquired enough talent to be successful.
One thing I do appreciate about how the Packers approach FA is that they haven’t been chasing the premium players at premium positions. They’re going after premium players at the financially deflated positions. They’re getting premium players like X, Jacobs, and now Banks at positions that aren’t demanding top end all-around contracts.
They're not cheap, mind you, but they’re not bank busters either. You can amass a lot of talent by avoiding certain bank busting FA position groups and, instead, finding that positional talent on the cheap through the draft. Gute hasn’t been entirely successful, yet, in filling those high dollar position groups (Edge, WR, DL) with his drafted players but he’s taken swings and acquired enough talent to be successful.
Agreed with both of you. I'm still up for a Kupp or Cooper signing. Contrary to other comments, I don't think Amari is washed up. He had a really good 2023 and was injured last year and then had to learn a new offense mid season. I think Kupp could be a good fill in player as well at the right price.
I wouldn’t be opposed to either so long as they’re not being paid top end WR contracts.Acrobat wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025 07:20Agreed with both of you. I'm still up for a Kupp or Cooper signing. Contrary to other comments, I don't think Amari is washed up. He had a really good 2023 and was injured last year and then had to learn a new offense mid season. I think Kupp could be a good fill in player as well at the right price.
I am 100% against Kupp. He needs to live in the slot and we don't have a need there. We need help on the outside.

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A lot of talk about adding speed to the Packers WR room and not a ton of options in either Free Agency or The Draft. I know street free agents are never exciting, but the Packers added this guy in January. He was a Chargers 2024 draft pick.
I think there may be a little something there and he is basically a clone of Christian Watson.
I think there may be a little something there and he is basically a clone of Christian Watson.

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Exactly, I'm more interested in Amari Cooper just because I still think he can be a true #1 but not in the mold where Jordan Love would feel the need to feed him too much. Like I could see him having 6-120-2 TD games and then the next 2-35-0 TD but it's because Love found other people open. And Cooper is at the point of his career where he wouldn't be a jerk about those games, but he is still capable of taking a game over, something literally none of our WR's did last season.APB wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025 07:24I wouldn’t be opposed to either so long as they’re not being paid top end WR contracts.Acrobat wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025 07:20Agreed with both of you. I'm still up for a Kupp or Cooper signing. Contrary to other comments, I don't think Amari is washed up. He had a really good 2023 and was injured last year and then had to learn a new offense mid season. I think Kupp could be a good fill in player as well at the right price.
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i think Cooper is a possibility.
thing is ted has mostly struck out drafting edge rusher, our 2nd contract to Gary has not lived up to the bill paid, and now LVN is turning out the same, I hate drafting DL, almost none pan out, and the whole league is the same, that's why the price of DL UFA cost have skyrocketed, and pass rush is the name of the game on defense, minus that ability, and coverages break down, sometimes ya got to swallow the pill your feed, IMHO we should have bought a pass rusher, just because it takes about 3 years for these guys to find there ceiling, most never do, and are always over paid for there production 

I have read quotes from Ron Wolf, Ted Thompson, and Brian Gutekunst that have said something to the effect of: "You use Free Agency to fix mistakes you made in The Draft".
2024
Xavier McKinney (2019 Darnell Savage)
Josh Jacobs (2020 AJ Dillon)
2025
Aaron Banks (2021 Josh Myers)
Nate Hobbs (2021 Eric Stokes)
How about that huge class from 2019? Not as direct, but still there.
Za'Darius Smith (2016 Kyler Fackrell)
Preston Smith (2017 Vince Biegel)
Adrian Amos (2017 Josh Jones)
Billy Turner (2016 Jason Spriggs)
Maybe we should have zeroed in on these guys a little more closely.
2024
Xavier McKinney (2019 Darnell Savage)
Josh Jacobs (2020 AJ Dillon)
2025
Aaron Banks (2021 Josh Myers)
Nate Hobbs (2021 Eric Stokes)
How about that huge class from 2019? Not as direct, but still there.
Za'Darius Smith (2016 Kyler Fackrell)
Preston Smith (2017 Vince Biegel)
Adrian Amos (2017 Josh Jones)
Billy Turner (2016 Jason Spriggs)
Maybe we should have zeroed in on these guys a little more closely.

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Even 2018 plays nicely.
Tramon Williams (2015 Randall & Rollins)
Muhammed Wilkerson (2014 Khyri Thornton)
Jimmy Graham (2014 Richard Rodgers)
Everyone I listed other than Vince Biegel was picked in the top 3 rounds. Even that, if you hate it, you can plug in Nick Perry who they gave a big deal to and then immediately regretted or Datone Jones, who for some reason, became an OLB.
Tramon Williams (2015 Randall & Rollins)
Muhammed Wilkerson (2014 Khyri Thornton)
Jimmy Graham (2014 Richard Rodgers)
Everyone I listed other than Vince Biegel was picked in the top 3 rounds. Even that, if you hate it, you can plug in Nick Perry who they gave a big deal to and then immediately regretted or Datone Jones, who for some reason, became an OLB.

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Interesting to see so many mistakes made in the early rounds. 

Cancelled by the forum elites.
They are there for all teams. We have had an unfortunate recent history.

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I keep sayin’ it…
I am gonna be so obnoxious with the I-told-ya-so's if this actually happens. Ya'll better prepare yourselves...
what are you rambling on about now

My motto all along has been that if you can work out the personality stuff, you have to keep him since you don't gain anything by cutting him and his trade value is bad. As long as he doesn't hurt the locker room, you have to keep him safe just hope he's available at the end of the year if we're in the playoffs.
We do gain something—a significant amount of cap space. If we keep him for another season, his cap number balloons even further next year and it's already a very high number for a guy who can't play a full season (struggles to play even double digit games). We didn't try to make him take a pay cut, and he's already costing us an arm and a leg for a guy who misses a lot of games.
I think we're holding onto him for a draft-day trade, and will cut him loose if we don't move him.
I think we're holding onto him for a draft-day trade, and will cut him loose if we don't move him.
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Yup. Some team is going to end up missing out of CB talent in the early rounds and just be like we can give a 5th or 6th to the Packers for Jaire. Take a cap hit this year but he’s 100% off the books next year that will help us sign FAs for missing on 2 first round picks and using 2 second round picks on a mediocre player.Labrev wrote: ↑14 Mar 2025 07:20We do gain something—a significant amount of cap space. If we keep him for another season, his cap number balloons even further next year and it's already a very high number for a guy who can't play a full season (struggles to play even double digit games). We didn't try to make him take a pay cut, and he's already costing us an arm and a leg for a guy who misses a lot of games.
I think we're holding onto him for a draft-day trade, and will cut him loose if we don't move him.
Cancelled by the forum elites.
I have this crazy gut feeling that Jaire is going to choose to stay and agree to restructure his contract.Labrev wrote: ↑14 Mar 2025 07:20We do gain something—a significant amount of cap space. If we keep him for another season, his cap number balloons even further next year and it's already a very high number for a guy who can't play a full season (struggles to play even double digit games). We didn't try to make him take a pay cut, and he's already costing us an arm and a leg for a guy who misses a lot of games.
I think we're holding onto him for a draft-day trade, and will cut him loose if we don't move him.