Re: Rodgers wants out
Posted: 15 Jul 2021 10:38
Still engaged in the important things in life, I see...
But also, LOL.
But also, LOL.
He wants GB to cut him or trade or whatever. Just acting pesky to try to get them to cut ties. If it were up to him I don't think he'd be in a Packers uniform this season. So yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a great season for us for this reason. He's not going to leave it all on the field- he'll be thinking about staying healthy for his next team. Purely from an optics standpoint I'd like to see the Packers deal him out ASAP, though that probably is not the best business decision. I'd rather see a raw and determined Love out there playing for his life than endure another season of AR's weird attitude.
Me too.Captain_Ben wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021 12:46He wants GB to cut him or trade or whatever. Just acting pesky to try to get them to cut ties. If it were up to him I don't think he'd be in a Packers uniform this season. So yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a great season for us for this reason. He's not going to leave it all on the field- he'll be thinking about staying healthy for his next team. Purely from an optics standpoint I'd like to see the Packers deal him out ASAP, though that probably is not the best business decision. I'd rather see a raw and determined Love out there playing for his life than endure another season of AR's weird attitude.
I see AR playing like he did in 2018 when he was trying to get MM fired. The funny thing is, when you are playing not to get injured is usually when you do get injured.Captain_Ben wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021 12:46
He wants GB to cut him or trade or whatever. Just acting pesky to try to get them to cut ties. If it were up to him I don't think he'd be in a Packers uniform this season. So yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a great season for us for this reason. He's not going to leave it all on the field- he'll be thinking about staying healthy for his next team. Purely from an optics standpoint I'd like to see the Packers deal him out ASAP, though that probably is not the best business decision. I'd rather see a raw and determined Love out there playing for his life than endure another season of AR's weird attitude.
I may be in the minority with this, but I don’t think Rodgers sandbagged anything in 2018. I think he about destroyed his knee against Chicago, came back on drugs and won the game, then spent the rest of the year hardly practicing at all and trying not to get hit. At that point in his career, he was still somewhat of a Houdini. Then, that aspect got stripped of him and he started throwing the ball away early to avoid getting hit bc he couldn’t extend plays. Also, after missing a lot of the year before, and then not practicing hardly at all in ‘18, and having a pretty new WR room, i simply think all those things made his play decline.wallyuwl wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 08:01I see AR playing like he did in 2018 when he was trying to get MM fired. The funny thing is, when you are playing not to get injured is usually when you do get injured.Captain_Ben wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021 12:46
He wants GB to cut him or trade or whatever. Just acting pesky to try to get them to cut ties. If it were up to him I don't think he'd be in a Packers uniform this season. So yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a great season for us for this reason. He's not going to leave it all on the field- he'll be thinking about staying healthy for his next team. Purely from an optics standpoint I'd like to see the Packers deal him out ASAP, though that probably is not the best business decision. I'd rather see a raw and determined Love out there playing for his life than endure another season of AR's weird attitude.
I like this take.Drj820 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 08:27I may be in the minority with this, but I don’t think Rodgers sandbagged anything in 2018. I think he about destroyed his knee against Chicago, came back on drugs and won the game, then spent the rest of the year hardly practicing at all and trying not to get hit. At that point in his career, he was still somewhat of a Houdini. Then, that aspect got stripped of him and he started throwing the ball away early to avoid getting hit bc he couldn’t extend plays. Also, after missing a lot of the year before, and then not practicing hardly at all in ‘18, and having a pretty new WR room, i simply think all those things made his play decline.
He tried to get MM fired by his body language, and press conference comments..i think his play on the field was just due to knee injury and no practice time.
Thanks, you can even drill one step further and his poor play makes even more sense. We had just made the switch at GM bc everyone recognized the team talent level had hit a low, plus look at who his WRs were that year...YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 08:33I like this take.Drj820 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 08:27I may be in the minority with this, but I don’t think Rodgers sandbagged anything in 2018. I think he about destroyed his knee against Chicago, came back on drugs and won the game, then spent the rest of the year hardly practicing at all and trying not to get hit. At that point in his career, he was still somewhat of a Houdini. Then, that aspect got stripped of him and he started throwing the ball away early to avoid getting hit bc he couldn’t extend plays. Also, after missing a lot of the year before, and then not practicing hardly at all in ‘18, and having a pretty new WR room, i simply think all those things made his play decline.
He tried to get MM fired by his body language, and press conference comments..i think his play on the field was just due to knee injury and no practice time.
I have long argued against "Rodgers played poorly on purpose" because it makes no sense to me that someone that competitive would do that, or that his teammates would not be able to tell and would not call him out/hate him for it.
But given how people are responding to how he might pay/act if he returns this year, the "he tanked his coach with intentionally poor play in 2018" narrative seems to have gone from longshot conspiracy theory to more widely-accepted. I appreciate your thoughtful push back against it.
If he knows his time is up in GB after this season and that he'll be hitting the market next offseason, he'd probably handle certain situations differently. Maybe throw it away on that 3rd down instead of taking the smack from an incoming defensive end. He has said that he wants to play into his 40's.Drj820 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 08:16I just don’t see him being an intentional bum when he comes back just bc of how much he has to lose doing that. Firstly, his own legacy is at stake. 4 MVPs put him in the rarest of air, second: the team has a chance to be very good, if he’s on the field , why would he not sieze that opportunity, he knows what it would mean for his legacy. Third: He claims to love the guys in the locker room like Adams and Bahk, I doubt he’d sabotage their year, or they would allow him too. Finally, he claims he has no beef with the coach, why would he sabotage the good young coach? I think if he comes back, he’s all the way back...and his goal will be to win another MVP and make Gute look dumb as he tries to trade him.
I think at age 38 any QB should have an increased focus on longevity if they plan to play into their 40s, whether they want to change teams or not. Avoiding a smack from a DE is the smart move for any aging QB.Captain_Ben wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:22If he knows his time is up in GB after this season and that he'll be hitting the market next offseason, he'd probably handle certain situations differently. Maybe throw it away on that 3rd down instead of taking the smack from an incoming defensive end. He has said that he wants to play into his 40's.Drj820 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 08:16I just don’t see him being an intentional bum when he comes back just bc of how much he has to lose doing that. Firstly, his own legacy is at stake. 4 MVPs put him in the rarest of air, second: the team has a chance to be very good, if he’s on the field , why would he not sieze that opportunity, he knows what it would mean for his legacy. Third: He claims to love the guys in the locker room like Adams and Bahk, I doubt he’d sabotage their year, or they would allow him too. Finally, he claims he has no beef with the coach, why would he sabotage the good young coach? I think if he comes back, he’s all the way back...and his goal will be to win another MVP and make Gute look dumb as he tries to trade him.
I'm not able to sit here and pretend that I know how the guy's mind works, but an increased focus on longevity in his circumstance would make sense to me.
OUR BIGGEST DISAGREEMENT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WAS A JOKE???Yoop wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:13come on now, he let his team mates and fans down by not throwing to open and check down receivers in multiple games with the sole intent to get McCarthy fired, I thought we had established this 3 years agowhen I brought that up it was mostly a joke based solely on appearance, and the flack Rodgers was getting for extending plays, and not playing up to past ability, people took me seriously though, and some still do, he never liked giving up on the big chunk plays for a short check down, but I'd never accuse him of not trying to win ever, but that is how some here took my comments.
and there probably the same people that now think Rodgers will come back and give less then 100% effort.
A+ Troll TbhYoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:41OUR BIGGEST DISAGREEMENT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WAS A JOKE???Yoop wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:13come on now, he let his team mates and fans down by not throwing to open and check down receivers in multiple games with the sole intent to get McCarthy fired, I thought we had established this 3 years agowhen I brought that up it was mostly a joke based solely on appearance, and the flack Rodgers was getting for extending plays, and not playing up to past ability, people took me seriously though, and some still do, he never liked giving up on the big chunk plays for a short check down, but I'd never accuse him of not trying to win ever, but that is how some here took my comments.
and there probably the same people that now think Rodgers will come back and give less then 100% effort.
Honestly this makes me feel better
I still think he wanted McCarthy to make changes prior or during the 017 season, and wanted a new coach to start the 018 season, and as DR.J said his body language spoke to that, He and McCarthy hardly spoke to each other during games, both looked frustrated with each other, finally Murphy fired him, Rodgers never to my knowledge said a bad thing about Mac, all I ever heard was we need to do more Running, and adjust our passing schemes.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:41OUR BIGGEST DISAGREEMENT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WAS A JOKE???Yoop wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:13come on now, he let his team mates and fans down by not throwing to open and check down receivers in multiple games with the sole intent to get McCarthy fired, I thought we had established this 3 years agowhen I brought that up it was mostly a joke based solely on appearance, and the flack Rodgers was getting for extending plays, and not playing up to past ability, people took me seriously though, and some still do, he never liked giving up on the big chunk plays for a short check down, but I'd never accuse him of not trying to win ever, but that is how some here took my comments.
and there probably the same people that now think Rodgers will come back and give less then 100% effort.
Honestly this makes me feel better
Drj820 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:51A+ Troll TbhYoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:41OUR BIGGEST DISAGREEMENT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WAS A JOKE???Yoop wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 09:13come on now, he let his team mates and fans down by not throwing to open and check down receivers in multiple games with the sole intent to get McCarthy fired, I thought we had established this 3 years agowhen I brought that up it was mostly a joke based solely on appearance, and the flack Rodgers was getting for extending plays, and not playing up to past ability, people took me seriously though, and some still do, he never liked giving up on the big chunk plays for a short check down, but I'd never accuse him of not trying to win ever, but that is how some here took my comments.
and there probably the same people that now think Rodgers will come back and give less then 100% effort.
Honestly this makes me feel better
Words matter Yoop. When you say things like, "I believe Rodgers purposely played poorly to get McCarthy fired...." and then double, triple, quadruple down on that statement and call people names when they disagree, etc.Yoop wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021 10:21
why you would think I thought Rodgers would purposely play poorly is beyond my comprehension, my comments where a direct response to opinions that Rodgers eye sight had went bad and he didn't see open check down receivers, cripes Stevie Wonder would have seen those guys, Rodgers simply wanted more yards then those receivers would have provided.
I called him our HERO and meant it when his attitude got McCarthy fired, Mac should have been let go the same year as Capers, and Ted, Murphy pro longed the inevitable by giving Mac another season.