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Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 15 Nov 2022 17:14
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022 16:41
Yoop wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022 16:05
BF004 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022 15:38
Not sure how far back you'd have to go, but I'm definitely thinking of TJ Lang and Josh Sitton.
Josh Sitton imho is one of the most under rated Guards the teams ever had, just a road grader, that line of Cliffy Sitton Wells Lang and Bulaga was one of the best OL's we've had in the modern era, Cliffy was the big name guy, But Sitton to me was the best OLiner we had back then, to bad injury's depleeted his ability some.
I don't know who is underrating Sitton or that line. The 2010 - 2014 Oline and 2001 - 2003 Oline are regarded as the best lines in Green Bay modern era history. Competing against the great Lombardi lines.
thanks for the info, Heres a clip from Bleacher report, they ranked Sitton #6 on that SB roster, I think they meant Sitton was under rated by the league, which was my opinion.
6. Josh Sitton: There may not be a more underrated offensive lineman in the game than Sitton. He's a mauler in the run game and is hands down the Packers best player up front.
thats from bleacher report, they don't allow there link to be dragged.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/642 ... 010-roster
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 15 Nov 2022 23:20
by Pckfn23
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 15 Nov 2022 23:26
by Pckfn23
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 15 Nov 2022 23:33
by Pckfn23
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 08:47
by go pak go
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 08:49
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
The 90s the Cowboys had us 9-1, which was my Packers formative years, so... $%@# the Cowboys!
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 09:00
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:49
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
The 90s the Cowboys had us 9-1, which was my Packers formative years, so... $%@# the Cowboys!
Yeah. For me it was the Eagle always beating us. You must have me by like 5 years.
$%@# the iggles.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 09:16
by Yoop
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 09:00
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:49
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
The 90s the Cowboys had us 9-1, which was my Packers formative years, so... $%@# the Cowboys!
Yeah. For me it was the Eagle always beating us. You must have me by like 5 years.
$%@# the iggles.
the Packers, Cowboy rivalry goes back to Lombardi, Tom Landry 60's era, Landry was in consideration for the Job Lombardi eventually got, least thats what my old memory says
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 10:44
by Pugger
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
Man, back in the early 90s it seemed like we were playing those clowns at there place every time and losing almost every damn time.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 10:45
by Pugger
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:49
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
The 90s the Cowboys had us 9-1, which was my Packers formative years, so... $%@# the Cowboys!
GMTA
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 11:14
by go pak go
Pugger wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 10:44
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
Man, back in the early 90s it seemed like we were playing those clowns at there place every time and losing almost every damn time.
It's because we did.
The NFL schedule sets teams up to do that. You can go in a cycle of playing at a conference opponent 3 times in a row (regular season). Then add in playoffs and it can seem like you always play a conference rival at their place.
It happened to us in the 90s with Dallas.
It happened to us in the 2000's with Philly.
It happened to us in the 2020's with SF.
It happened to us and SEA in the mid 2010's (pre 2014 in SEA. Post 2014 in GB).
It is currently happening to the LA Rams at GB.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 13:04
by RingoCStarrQB
Yoop wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 09:16
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 09:00
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:49
The 90s the Cowboys had us 9-1, which was my Packers formative years, so... $%@# the Cowboys!
Yeah. For me it was the Eagle always beating us. You must have me by like 5 years.
$%@# the iggles.
the Packers, Cowboy rivalry goes back to Lombardi, Tom Landry 60's era, Landry was in consideration for the Job Lombardi eventually got, least thats what my old memory says
During the 1950s, Landry was the Giants defensive coach and Lombardi was the Giants offensive coach. Of course we all know that Lombardi won all the Packers - Cowboys games in the 1960s
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 13:22
by LombardiTime
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:49
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
The 90s the Cowboys had us 9-1, which was my Packers formative years, so...
$%@# the Cowboys!
I'm older, but Dallas owned us in the 70s & 80s as well.
I here tell the 60s were a much better time for Packer fans when it came to the Cowboys but that was before my time.
And yes, when it comes to
$%@# the Cowboys! always and ever more until the day I die.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 14:31
by Scott4Pack
Is that on drives where Watson scores, or where he catches it (might or might not score)?
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 14:33
by Scott4Pack
Pugger wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 10:44
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
Man, back in the early 90s it seemed like we were playing those clowns at there place every time and losing almost every damn time.
I think the Boys beat us in the playoffs three straight years before our 96 team finally advanced. We didn’t play them in January that year.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 14:34
by Scott4Pack
LombardiTime wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 13:22
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:49
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 08:47
It's weird being on the other side. Like I don't look at Dallas as a rival anymore because we always beat them. It's funny how "rivalry" teams can have completely different perspective depending on side.
The 90s the Cowboys had us 9-1, which was my Packers formative years, so...
$%@# the Cowboys!
I'm older, but Dallas owned us in the 70s & 80s as well.
I here tell the 60s were a much better time for Packer fans when it came to the Cowboys but that was before my time.
And yes, when it comes to
$%@# the Cowboys! always and ever more until the day I die.
EVERY team owned us in the late 70s and the 80s.
:-)
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 14:40
by Yoop
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 13:04
Yoop wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 09:16
go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 09:00
Yeah. For me it was the Eagle always beating us. You must have me by like 5 years.
$%@# the iggles.
the Packers, Cowboy rivalry goes back to Lombardi, Tom Landry 60's era, Landry was in consideration for the Job Lombardi eventually got, least thats what my old memory says
During the 1950s, Landry was the Giants defensive coach and Lombardi was the Giants offensive coach. Of course we all know that Lombardi won all the Packers - Cowboys games in the 1960s
thats right, I forgot that connection Ringo
those two Giants cords became two of the best HC's the league ever had, I had a lot of respect for both.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 14:53
by Pckfn23
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022 14:31
Is that on drives where Watson scores, or where he catches it (might or might not score)?
Click Read the full conversation, he goes into an explanation.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 15:07
by Scott4Pack
Thanks 23! It’s considering every drive that Watson PLAYS in, not necessarily catching a TD or even any pass at all.
The takeaway seems to be that Green Bay scores considerably MORE points if Watson enters the huddle than when we doesn’t. The average yards gained be drive also increases by something like 9.9 yards.
I don’t know how much impact then that Watson’s 4 catches and 3 TDs will make, but it sure isn’t gonna hurt.
Does it go beyond saying that no other WR on the squad demands the respect from the defense that Watson does?
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 16 Nov 2022 15:10
by Pckfn23
It could also mean that a lot of time and energy was/is spent game planning with him in the game and when he is not it throws it all out of whack.