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Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 14:13
by paco
Well that's something.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 14:19
by go pak go
Either way I am glad we have the QB whisperer back in town. Either for Rodgers or for developing Love.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 14:28
by Pckfn23
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 14:01
Pckfn23 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 13:56
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 13:29
Bukowski just went through a bunch of trade scenarios, guys like Billy Turner and Za’Darius.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’d have to carry their cap hits to the new league year in order to trade them, right?

Essentially hurting ourselves having to cut other guys who maybe we could keep, and just making it infinitely harder to try to tag a guy like Davante. Whether to keep or trade him.
Correct. Trades do not go on the books until the New league year begins.
So we'd essentially have to, as an example, cut Adrian Amos in order to hold onto Billy Turner long enough just to trade him for like a 4th-5th round pick.

This cap sucks. I suppose if it wasn't this tight, we wouldn't be talking about cutting or trading good players.
100%.

It's why I laugh about statements that say the cap is imaginary or downplay the situation we are in. It's not good.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 16:58
by paco

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 17:16
by Pugger
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 14:13
Well that's something.
Holy cow! Rodgers will be happy about this.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 17:19
by Pugger
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 11:31
I will say as good as our OL appears to be, and as much as they were dinged up, and as good as our RB were. I thought they were quite awful run blocking last year.

I feel like our only big runs came squarely on the shoulders of Jones and Dillon.

Not having Bak, Jenkins, and Myers surely didn't help for a lot it, no so sure on Myers yet. JRJ and Newman never really looked ready for that load just yet. Patrick is fine, but he just was never meant to be the shining star of the interior OL.


However to the contrary, lol, I kind of want to make the OL worse and leaning towards getting rid of Turner. :lol: I think he is out playing his contract, at least earning it. But you got a competent 5 with Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman, Jenkins, whether you try Jenkins or Newman at RT, doesn't matter a ton. We do got Nijman coming back (maybe try him at RT too), and a draft and few other young guys we have been developing. I guess I just feel more comfortable with that than I would getting rid of a Lowry or Amos where we really don't have other options right now.
Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 17:47
by BF004
Pugger wrote:
17 Feb 2022 17:19
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 11:31
I will say as good as our OL appears to be, and as much as they were dinged up, and as good as our RB were. I thought they were quite awful run blocking last year.

I feel like our only big runs came squarely on the shoulders of Jones and Dillon.

Not having Bak, Jenkins, and Myers surely didn't help for a lot it, no so sure on Myers yet. JRJ and Newman never really looked ready for that load just yet. Patrick is fine, but he just was never meant to be the shining star of the interior OL.


However to the contrary, lol, I kind of want to make the OL worse and leaning towards getting rid of Turner. :lol: I think he is out playing his contract, at least earning it. But you got a competent 5 with Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman, Jenkins, whether you try Jenkins or Newman at RT, doesn't matter a ton. We do got Nijman coming back (maybe try him at RT too), and a draft and few other young guys we have been developing. I guess I just feel more comfortable with that than I would getting rid of a Lowry or Amos where we really don't have other options right now.
Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...
He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.

I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 18:58
by NCF
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 17:47
Pugger wrote:
17 Feb 2022 17:19
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 11:31
I will say as good as our OL appears to be, and as much as they were dinged up, and as good as our RB were. I thought they were quite awful run blocking last year.

I feel like our only big runs came squarely on the shoulders of Jones and Dillon.

Not having Bak, Jenkins, and Myers surely didn't help for a lot it, no so sure on Myers yet. JRJ and Newman never really looked ready for that load just yet. Patrick is fine, but he just was never meant to be the shining star of the interior OL.


However to the contrary, lol, I kind of want to make the OL worse and leaning towards getting rid of Turner. :lol: I think he is out playing his contract, at least earning it. But you got a competent 5 with Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman, Jenkins, whether you try Jenkins or Newman at RT, doesn't matter a ton. We do got Nijman coming back (maybe try him at RT too), and a draft and few other young guys we have been developing. I guess I just feel more comfortable with that than I would getting rid of a Lowry or Amos where we really don't have other options right now.
Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...
He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.

I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.
I disagree. As the season went on, he was arguably our best OL. The future is extremely bright with him.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 19:14
by Pckfn23
NCF wrote:
17 Feb 2022 18:58
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 17:47
Pugger wrote:
17 Feb 2022 17:19


Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...
He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.

I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.
I disagree. As the season went on, he was arguably our best OL. The future is extremely bright with him.
I was a huge Runyan skeptic at the start of the year, but as the year went on, I believe he played well, call it above average.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 19:27
by paco
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 14:13
Well that's something.
:dunno: how are people not talking about this more? I figured there would be lots of opinions on both sides.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 19:46
by BF004
NCF wrote:
17 Feb 2022 18:58
BF004 wrote:
17 Feb 2022 17:47
Pugger wrote:
17 Feb 2022 17:19


Gee, for his second season I thought Runyon played pretty well at LG. We could do a whole lot worse...
He wasn’t a liability but I certainly wouldn’t classify his play as ‘well’.

I mean expectations shouldn’t be high for a 2nd year 6th rounder, but he was okay. All the reason in the word to be excited, but he wasn’t even average this year, particularly in run blocking.
I disagree. As the season went on, he was arguably our best OL. The future is extremely bright with him.
I didn't see any guy on the OL regularly win in the run game like we have the past two years.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 19:48
by Drj820
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 19:27
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 14:13
Well that's something.
:dunno: how are people not talking about this more? I figured there would be lots of opinions on both sides.
just seems like a move that points to the team seriously wanting Rodgers back. What other sides are there?

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 19:58
by Labrev
Yeah, not sure what to say about it that has not already been said: happy he's back -- I think he was a pretty good QBs coach --, and this seems like a move to coax Rodgers back... :idn:

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 20:01
by paco
You people will debate anything. But Clements back and everyone is like, whatever. Just funny is all.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 20:10
by Pckfn23
Probably the best QB Coach hire we could make at this point.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 20:18
by wallyuwl
A good hire for AR or Love or a 2023 pick.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 20:38
by NCF
wallyuwl wrote:
17 Feb 2022 20:18
A good hire for AR or Love or a 2023 pick.
I thought the same.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 20:52
by Crazylegs Starks
I was shocked to see Clements will be back in town. :shock:

1) It's a great hire. By all accounts, he's a heck of a QB whisperer.
2) In theory, this will help the Packers keep Rodgers if that's what they want to do.
3) This should be good for Love's (and Benkert's) development.

I still think Rodgers is gone though; I'm at about 20% stays vs. 80% gone.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 22:00
by Pugger
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 19:27
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 14:13
Well that's something.
:dunno: how are people not talking about this more? I figured there would be lots of opinions on both sides.
I think Clements was a major reason why Rodgers became the QB he is today.

Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022

Posted: 17 Feb 2022 22:01
by paco
Pugger wrote:
17 Feb 2022 22:00
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 19:27
paco wrote:
17 Feb 2022 14:13
Well that's something.
:dunno: how are people not talking about this more? I figured there would be lots of opinions on both sides.
I think Clements was a major reason why Rodgers became the QB he is today.
No doubt.