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I think Wolf was strongly considered. He seemed to be the front runner for outside media until insiders zeroed in.
Just had a look at Wolf - never a scout. Always on the pro personnel side getting the nice start with his name. Ultimately the easy road likely hurt his development.
Wait...I thought Murphy was an ego-driven narcissist? How would a failing coach and mere player force him to do anything?lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 20:30All report was Ball was gonna be the guy until MM and Rodgers told Murphy he was being a $%@# idiot wanting to hire a cap guy. Then he hired Gutey.
Took the advice then flipped it into believing it was his idea and plan. Classic ego-driven narcissistic behavior.APB wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 20:51Wait...I thought Murphy was an ego-driven narcissist? How would a failing coach and mere player force him to do anything?lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 20:30All report was Ball was gonna be the guy until MM and Rodgers told Murphy he was being a $%@# idiot wanting to hire a cap guy. Then he hired Gutey.
Everything sounds good inside ones own head.APB wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 20:51Wait...I thought Murphy was an ego-driven narcissist? How would a failing coach and mere player force him to do anything?lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 20:30All report was Ball was gonna be the guy until MM and Rodgers told Murphy he was being a $%@# idiot wanting to hire a cap guy. Then he hired Gutey.
How do you know this and what proof do you have to support this theory?bud fox wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 21:03Took the advice then flipped it into believing it was his idea and plan. Classic ego-driven narcissistic behavior.APB wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 20:51Wait...I thought Murphy was an ego-driven narcissist? How would a failing coach and mere player force him to do anything?lupedafiasco wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 20:30All report was Ball was gonna be the guy until MM and Rodgers told Murphy he was being a $%@# idiot wanting to hire a cap guy. Then he hired Gutey.
go look it up, plenty of links out there detailing that coaches and GM need to be able to work well together, and Russ Ball has very little experience as a personal man, or as a scout, I have no doubts what so ever that neither McCarthy or Rodgers would of thought of Ball as a good fit, hell don't take our word for it, do some investigating so you know what the hell your arguing about.
wrong, Eliot was scouting players by the time he was 10 yrs old with his father, since that time till he left to go to Cleveland when Gute was hired he'd been to over 20 combines and countless pro days, he'll be a GM some where, I think his young age, and lack of NFL exposure has held him back, GM's, tend to be well traveled, moving from one regime to another learning the tricks of the trade, Guty was probably the more experienced, I think he started scouting earlier.bud fox wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021 19:59Just had a look at Wolf - never a scout. Always on the pro personnel side getting the nice start with his name. Ultimately the easy road likely hurt his development.
I couldn't imagine packers having a non scout GM - draft is such a huge emphasis and Murphy no doubt adopted that from Ted.
If your answer to “show proof” is “go look it up” that means that you don’t have proof.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 07:25go look it up, plenty of links out there detailing that coaches and GM need to be able to work well together, and Russ Ball has very little experience as a personal man, or as a scout, I have no doubts what so ever that neither McCarthy or Rodgers would of thought of Ball as a good fit, hell don't take our word for it, do some investigating so you know what the hell your arguing about.
True nuff!
no, what it means is that as usual Acrobat, you bring up hollow complaints in your arguments..Acrobat wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 08:09If your answer to “show proof” is “go look it up” that means that you don’t have proof.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 07:25go look it up, plenty of links out there detailing that coaches and GM need to be able to work well together, and Russ Ball has very little experience as a personal man, or as a scout, I have no doubts what so ever that neither McCarthy or Rodgers would of thought of Ball as a good fit, hell don't take our word for it, do some investigating so you know what the hell your arguing about.
If your next response becomes personal insults and projection, then you REALLY don't have any proof.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 09:07no, what it means is that as usual Acrobat, you bring up hollow complaints in your arguments..Acrobat wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 08:09If your answer to “show proof” is “go look it up” that means that you don’t have proof.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 07:25
go look it up, plenty of links out there detailing that coaches and GM need to be able to work well together, and Russ Ball has very little experience as a personal man, or as a scout, I have no doubts what so ever that neither McCarthy or Rodgers would of thought of Ball as a good fit, hell don't take our word for it, do some investigating so you know what the hell your arguing about.
I can bring proof, I made it a point to find out that what Lupe said was accurate, but I'll be damned if I'am going to bring that info just to dispute a person to lazy to do so themselves as is always the case with you.
wah, wah wah, wah wah wah, go look it up, real simple, just go to google and type in GM search GB Packers, the insulting thing is you not bothering to have any sort of evidence that what Lupe said is wrong, and expecting others to do the leg work to prove he's right, I know he's right, and you doubting it is your problem.Acrobat wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 09:10If your next response becomes personal insults and projection, then you REALLY don't have any proof.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 09:07no, what it means is that as usual Acrobat, you bring up hollow complaints in your arguments..
I can bring proof, I made it a point to find out that what Lupe said was accurate, but I'll be damned if I'am going to bring that info just to dispute a person to lazy to do so themselves as is always the case with you.
Seriously, I just asked Bud Fox for proof that Murphy "took the advice then flipped it into believing it was his idea and plan. Classic ego-driven narcissistic behavior." I hadn't heard that he did that and I was hoping for some kind of proof that Murphy indeed took someone else's idea and made it his own.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 09:16wah, wah wah, wah wah wah, go look it up, real simple, just go to google and type in GM search GB Packers, the insulting thing is you not bothering to have any sort of evidence that what Lupe said is wrong, and expecting others to do the leg work to prove he's right, I know he's right, and you doubting it is your problem.Acrobat wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 09:10If your next response becomes personal insults and projection, then you REALLY don't have any proof.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 09:07
no, what it means is that as usual Acrobat, you bring up hollow complaints in your arguments..
I can bring proof, I made it a point to find out that what Lupe said was accurate, but I'll be damned if I'am going to bring that info just to dispute a person to lazy to do so themselves as is always the case with you.
you post hoping to be insulted, you do it every time you come to this forum
I agree with the comment Lupe made, I had seen articles that claimed that McCarthy and Rodgers didn't think Russ Ball would be a good fit as a GM that they would have to deal with.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2021 09:19https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_ ... hilosophy)
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