Packers Huddle

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 22:19

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 21:53

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 21:36

Is he gone yet?

You and every other NFC North team are just praying he leaves.

We appreciate your generous donations is the win column over the last decade and a half.

I really don't care if he stays or goes. Without defense, the Packers ain't going anywhere. And nothing they have done this offseason shows me they upped their defense any. I'm actually more concerned with the Bears at this point.

I wonder if that's why he wants out.

First round corner, new DC, and another year of growth for Savage, Gary, and the sophomore LBs are supposed to help in theory.

I agree it would have been nice to not have to keep relying on guys like dean lowry

Rodgers has landed in GB.

Now it’ll be interesting to see if Cobb is a Packer by the end of the day. A lot of chatter was heating up yesterday.

Acrobat wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:41

Rodgers has landed in GB.

Now it’ll be interesting to see if Cobb is a Packer by the end of the day. A lot of chatter was heating up yesterday.

I cant imagine that being the stipulation for getting Rodgers to show up.

I really think its just a handshake deal. Rodgers comes back and plays and the Packers will trade him a team of his liking.

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 22:19

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 21:53

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 21:36

Is he gone yet?

You and every other NFC North team are just praying he leaves.

We appreciate your generous donations is the win column over the last decade and a half.

I'm actually more concerned with the Bears at this point.

You are either stupid or a liar.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:50

Acrobat wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:41

Rodgers has landed in GB.

Now it’ll be interesting to see if Cobb is a Packer by the end of the day. A lot of chatter was heating up yesterday.

I cant imagine that being the stipulation for getting Rodgers to show up.

I really think its just a handshake deal. Rodgers comes back and plays and the Packers will trade him a team of his liking.

Cobb is one of my favorites and I’d be ok with him coming back for one year at the right price. The only fuel behind the rumor is that the Texans just traded for another slot WR.

So from what I am gathering, the following is part of the "concession" to get Rodgers back in GB.

1. Green Bay voids the 2023 contract season (this does not impact GB at all as there was no dead cap that season)

2. Rodgers does not lose ANY income. Therefore any "restructure" or anything like that to free up space for say, Randal Cobb, still must but paid for by the Packers in future seasons.

3. Rodgers and the Packers will work together on a trade partner in 2022. Basically Rodgers can say "no" to a trade if he doesn't want to play for that team. (like we wouldn't be able to ship him to the Texans because they offer 4 1st rounders). Rodgers will have to "sign off" on a trade which gives him more power in the trade scenario.

The more I think about it though, the more I still think GB is likely in pretty good shape. First off, Aaron Rodgers I believe has a very, very slim chance of being a Packer in 2022. The Rodgers/Packers ship has sailed. Especially if Jordan Love performs well this August, the Packers and Rodgers will be motivated to move on. What I was initially worried about was compensation in a trade would be lowered, but honestly I don't think this would be much of a case as I still believe there would be plenty of teams (Indy, Denver, Las Vegas, Carolina, Washington, etc). bidding for his services which will drive the price up.

The thing that I am still waiting on is Randal Cobb. I really don't like that Cobb is a remote possibility to keep Rodgers happy when it would take trade compensation and $8.5 million in cap to acquire him. And Rodgers is guaranteed to not lose any income.

Like if you want Cobb Aaron, you can work with us to eliminate some of your pay to get Cobb. But instead it would cost us a mid-late round draft pick plus money we don't have for a 4th/5th/6th WR on the roster.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:50

Acrobat wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:41

Rodgers has landed in GB.

Now it’ll be interesting to see if Cobb is a Packer by the end of the day. A lot of chatter was heating up yesterday.

I cant imagine that being the stipulation for getting Rodgers to show up.

I really think its just a handshake deal. Rodgers comes back and plays and the Packers will trade him a team of his liking.

Yup. Pretty good summary. Maybe change the language of Packers will trade him to a team and offer of mutual liking.

Acrobat wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:52

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:50

Acrobat wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:41

Rodgers has landed in GB.

Now it’ll be interesting to see if Cobb is a Packer by the end of the day. A lot of chatter was heating up yesterday.

I cant imagine that being the stipulation for getting Rodgers to show up.

I really think its just a handshake deal. Rodgers comes back and plays and the Packers will trade him a team of his liking.

Cobb is one of my favorites and I’d be ok with him coming back for one year at the right price. The only fuel behind the rumor is that the Texans just traded for another slot WR.

Yeah. The Texans did get Anthony Miller from the Bears for a 5th round pick. So it definitely makes you wonder.

If Cobb comes to GB, my guess is we give Houston a 4th (which is basically the Texans projected 5th they gave up) and then Houston restructures Cobb's deal to "eat more cap".

Basically it would be a swap of younger version of Cobb for Houston and Rodgers gets a friend.

once I learned Cobb's production declined after a good year with Dallas, ( Texans may not have used him well) and his contract cost we'd have to accept, I just can't take the Cobb talk as seriously as I first did, he'd be a great locker room presence and a mentor for Amari, and a friend for Rodgers ( as though Aaron doesn't already have that with almost the entire team) the cost and likely limited production makes this deal sound like just a bunch of hot air, but we'll see.

this is probably just a one and done thing, but something might happen and we rework Rodgers contract and he finishes as a Packer and we win two SB's versus just one, at least thats my fantasy.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 06:51

Raptorman wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 22:19

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2021 21:53

You and every other NFC North team are just praying he leaves.

We appreciate your generous donations is the win column over the last decade and a half.

I'm actually more concerned with the Bears at this point.

You are either stupid or a liar.

Also, if this Cobb thing has actual grit, it leads me to believe that Rodgers being mad about Kumerow is actually a pretty major gripe as Rodgers just wants friends on the roster.

Also looking back, management probably should have obliged to give a worthless roster spot to keep your top player happy.

If the agreement is to get Cobb he will not cost any more than a 7th. Hes about to be 31, his contract is awful, and he hasnt performed all that well to be worth more than that.

Honestly Cobb having money on his deal next year should be making the Texans give us compensation for helping relieve cap room.

go pak go wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 07:38

Also, if this Cobb thing has actual grit, it leads me to believe that Rodgers being mad about Kumerow is actually a pretty major gripe as Rodgers just wants friends on the roster.

Also looking back, management probably should have obliged to give a worthless roster spot to keep your top player happy.

exactly. Thats the things you do just to placate a drama queen so you can get to sundays where they perform. Its not bending the knee, its just an easy concession.

Kumerow sucked, so did Shepherd. The obvious decision is to keep the bum that is buddies with the QB.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 07:40

If the agreement is to get Cobb he will not cost any more than a 7th. Hes about to be 31, his contract is awful, and he hasnt performed all that well to be worth more than that.

Honestly Cobb having money on his deal next year should be making the Texans give us compensation for helping relieve cap room.

I think the assumption is the compensation due Houston would be higher if they are willing to eat a portion of the cap charge. Otherwise, yes, 100% you are right. We should be getting comp back at his current deal.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 07:50

go pak go wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 07:38

Also, if this Cobb thing has actual grit, it leads me to believe that Rodgers being mad about Kumerow is actually a pretty major gripe as Rodgers just wants friends on the roster.

Also looking back, management probably should have obliged to give a worthless roster spot to keep your top player happy.

exactly. Thats the things you do just to placate a drama queen so you can get to sundays where they perform. Its not bending the knee, its just an easy concession.

Kumerow sucked, so did Shepherd. The obvious decision is to keep the bum that is buddies with the QB.

I think it was actually Malik Taylor. Sheherp I believe was not on the initial 53.

go pak go wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 07:38

Also, if this Cobb thing has actual grit, it leads me to believe that Rodgers being mad about Kumerow is actually a pretty major gripe as Rodgers just wants friends on the roster.

Also looking back, management probably should have obliged to give a worthless roster spot to keep your top player happy.

I doubt you even believe what you just said? sure letting Kumerow go upset Rodgers, but the way it happened is the main reason, again a QB should have some input, at least allowed some for sight in WR's who the team decides to keep or part ways with, Up to Rodgers and Nelson might have been a Packer another year, I'am sure Rodgers would have prefered that to drafting 3 mid round receivers that where ultra raw.

mind blowing when QB's of far less stature then Rodgers are given these benefits and Rodgers gets the cold shoulder.

if i remember correctly, Cobb was great for the Packers during his first contract. Then, during his second contract we got about a year of high quality play from him. I also remember a magical TD catch and run that he secured to beat the Bears in 2018 in week one, but this is where i could be wrong...but dont i remember many 4th down drops, or just drops in general in critical spots around the playoffs from the guy?

Cobb seems like an awesome person, and he was a great Packer. However, its not like he was anything more than the QBs buddy and a "solid" player for the Packers, until he got old...which he is now. Old. His skill set isnt the type to age well.

Nothing against Cobb tho, seems like a great guy.

Man that Cobb contract is simply garbage. I mean Houston doesn't really have cap space to "eat" Cobb cap either.

When you look at Cobb's production over the last 2 seasons, it's actually not bad within the volume he received. He's just not ever going to be a 90 catch WR anymore. If the Packers got him, it would be for 2 reasons and one of them is not to be a high volume WR:

- Mentor Amari
- Provide 1 more reliable target for AR.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2021 07:54

if i remember correctly, Cobb was great for the Packers during his first contract. Then, during his second contract we got about a year of high quality play from him. I also remember a magical TD catch and run that he secured to beat the Bears in 2018 in week one, but this is where i could be wrong...but dont i remember many 4th down drops, or just drops in general in critical spots around the playoffs from the guy?

Cobb seems like an awesome person, and he was a great Packer. However, its not like he was anything more than the QBs buddy and a "solid" player for the Packers, until he got old...which he is now. Old. His skill set isnt the type to age well.

Nothing against Cobb tho, seems like a great guy.

Yeah Cobb was amazing in 2012 - 2014 and then he lost that 2nd gear. I would say Cobb's "greatest" plays as a Packer were the 2018 Bears long TD run, the 2016 Hail Mary TD catch vs the Giants, the 2013 Bears catch and his 1st game as a Packer in 2011 opener.