Jordan Love's Status

[Pckfn23]

Click and read the thread. The Mayfield thing is interesting

[salmar80]

Click and read the thread. The Mayfield thing is interesting

Funnily on the table including QBs with less snaps, Malik Willis leads EVERYBODY.

[Pckfn23]

[YoHoChecko]

Click and read the thread. The Mayfield thing is interesting

I'm just going to put it out there that a metric that puts Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff on equal footing this season might not actually tell you very much that is useful (and that's just one example). There are a lot of ways to look at the numbers and you play around with ideas of what might tell you something but if the results come out like this, odds are you've invented a fairly uninformative and therefore useless metric.

[BSA]

There are a lot of ways to look at the numbers and you play around with ideas of what might tell you something but if the results come out like this, odds are you've invented a fairly uninformative and therefore useless metric.

Generally speaking, I definitely agree with your point and there has been an explosion of stats/analytics in recent years.
Some of them are just crapola

- However I would also point out that we humans will happily dismiss any stats/models that don't fit with our preconceived notions.
That's confirmation bias in action. I don't think much of Trevor at all, but maybe its possible there are areas where he excels ?

I always go back to my training in model-building: "All models are wrong, some of them are useful "

No clue on this particular one, but Computer Cowboy has a solid reputation in the football analytics world

[Pckfn23]

[APB]

The funny thing is that teams still see the best way to beat Love is through pressure although Love is still very good. It beats not pressuring him, though, where he has become absolutely dead balls badass.

[BSA]

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This seems pretty good in terms of Love's QB efficiency.

[salmar80]

[APB]

[Pckfn23]

[salmar80]

If we've gone from GOAT interception avoider to GOAT sack avoider, that would be hilarious and cool.

[BSA]

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Here's an article that dives into Love's historic sack- avoidance a bit deeper

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-pac ... 242963872/

"Sacks are a QB stat" is a very real statement. Sure, a great offensive line helps, but pressures are actually much more indicative of good/bad play in the trenches.

It's the "pressure-to-sack ratio" that truly separates QBs when it comes to sack avoidance. There isn't much you can do in the NFL about pressure. It's how you deal with it when it arrives at your doorstep.

Jordan Love has dealt with pressure better than any quarterback in the sport this year, and maybe ever.

In the 16 years that PFF has tracked pressure-to-sack ratios dating back to 2006, no quarterback has had a season quite like Jordan Love is currently having.

Only 7.7% of pressures on Jordan Love result in a sack. He has been sacked just 11 times on 142 pressured dropbacks.

The article goes on to mention the vikes only sacked Love once in their previous meeting - despite Love throwing 54 passes - a record for him
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[RingoCStarrQB]

Well then Jordan Love should be the league MVP! Not any of these other freakin' imposters.

[GJPackerBacker]

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Here's an article that dives into Love's historic sack- avoidance a bit deeper

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-pac ... 242963872/

"Sacks are a QB stat" is a very real statement. Sure, a great offensive line helps, but pressures are actually much more indicative of good/bad play in the trenches.

It's the "pressure-to-sack ratio" that truly separates QBs when it comes to sack avoidance. There isn't much you can do in the NFL about pressure. It's how you deal with it when it arrives at your doorstep.

Jordan Love has dealt with pressure better than any quarterback in the sport this year, and maybe ever.

In the 16 years that PFF has tracked pressure-to-sack ratios dating back to 2006, no quarterback has had a season quite like Jordan Love is currently having.

Only 7.7% of pressures on Jordan Love result in a sack. He has been sacked just 11 times on 142 pressured dropbacks.

The article goes on to mention the vikes only sacked Love once in their previous meeting - despite Love throwing 54 passes - a record for him
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The game “is slowing down” for JL. It is remarkable how his game has improved since he has fully recovered from his early season injury. If he stays healthy going forward, and continues to improve, us Packer fans are going to see some great seasons going forward.

[Pckfn23]

A Love bad habit

[MY_TAKE]

A Love bad habit

We talked about that last year. Now and then its forced but not as much he does it.

[Acrobat]

Hopefully one more offseason will tame some of those bad habits. It feels like there's about 4-5 throws per game that just don't look right, most likely due to mechanics. Fix those and now we're talking. He's obviously still one of the top 12 or so QB's in the league but really needs to take that next step in 2025.

[APB]

Apparently has a pretty good arm.



That said, I’d have bet Elway or Favre threw a harder ball in their careers only NextGen wasn't around to measure it.

[musclestang]

I know I’ve said this before, but I think he tries to be too calm and he tempers things too much. Where someone like Favre would come out guns blazing and balls getting rifled everywhere his first few passes until he got in the flow of the game, when love has nerves/pressure/uneasy he tries to keep it too calm and it affects his throws in the opposite way.

Once the juice hits him or he just settles in and plays what I think is more natural for him, he starts slinging it.

There is no perfect, not Rodgers, not Favre not Brady etc, but love followed Rodgers who I think by nature is very cool and very deliberate and thoughtful in everything he does. I think Love is trying too much to emulate that when he feels any pressure/nerves etc but it is not him naturally.

And by pressure I don’t mean defensive pressure I mean mentally he feels nerves/pressure. Once he stops thinking about being cool and calm and everything is fine and just plays it seems to all be better.