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[go pak go]

Cincy is the Yoopian paradise. They drafted an elite young QB, gave him an elite WR and top-notch WRs 2-3. They let Boyd walk, but broke the bank to run it back with the QB and WRs 1 & 2. Bold strategy, let's see how it works out for them...

When it doesn't work out it will be because they didn't give the quarterback 3-4 elite WRs after letting Boyd walk and not replacing him. Because the defense is just double teaming Chase and Higgins. Never mind that it would leave the Bengals 9 offensive players vs the opposing defense's 7 players...double team is always the answer why the stars don't produce.

[Yoop]

Cincy is the Yoopian paradise. They drafted an elite young QB, gave him an elite WR and top-notch WRs 2-3. They let Boyd walk, but broke the bank to run it back with the QB and WRs 1 & 2. Bold strategy, let's see how it works out for them...

When it doesn't work out it will be because they didn't give the quarterback 3-4 elite WRs after letting Boyd walk and not replacing him. Because the defense is just double teaming Chase and Higgins. Never mind that it would leave the Bengals 9 offensive players vs the opposing defense's 7 players...double team is always the answer why the stars don't produce.

crazy money, but Cinnci realizes if ya have a young QB, great receivers make the transition easier, who's Boyd??? I haven't followed every teams UFA

Favre, with multiple skill position players = owl

Rodgers, with multiple skill position players = owl

as soon as Teddy T. arrived he went after receivers and used a 2nd or 3rd rounder on one almost every draft till 2015, that process works.

the point is to have too many receiver options than a defense can defend, we had Adams and a bunch of bench jumpers, no TE, it's laugh out loud funny to hear you guys defend that BS, or think I'am foolish for pointing it out.

also every situation has it's own complexities, I probably would never pay what Chase got, never said ya need the two best in the league, or that both have to be wide outs, a receiving TE and a Adams would have been better than Tae, and .... what MVS?

[APB]

Cincy is the Yoopian paradise. They drafted an elite young QB, gave him an elite WR and top-notch WRs 2-3. They let Boyd walk, but broke the bank to run it back with the QB and WRs 1 & 2. Bold strategy, let's see how it works out for them...

Indeed.

[APB]

Cincy is the Yoopian paradise. They drafted an elite young QB, gave him an elite WR and top-notch WRs 2-3. They let Boyd walk, but broke the bank to run it back with the QB and WRs 1 & 2. Bold strategy, let's see how it works out for them...

When it doesn't work out it will be because they didn't give the quarterback 3-4 elite WRs after letting Boyd walk and not replacing him. Because the defense is just double teaming Chase and Higgins. Never mind that it would leave the Bengals 9 offensive players vs the opposing defense's 7 players...double team is always the answer why the stars don't produce.

crazy money, but Cinnci realizes if ya have a young QB, great receivers make the transition easier, who's Boyd??? I haven't followed every teams UFA

Favre, with multiple skill position players = owl

Rodgers, with multiple skill position players = owl

as soon as Teddy T. arrived he went after receivers and used a 2nd or 3rd rounder on one almost every draft till 2015, that process works.

the point is to have too many receiver options than a defense can defend, we had Adams and a bunch of bench jumpers, no TE, it's laugh out loud funny to hear you guys defend that BS, or think I'am foolish for pointing it out.

also every situation has it's own complexities, I probably would never pay what Chase got, never said ya need the two best in the league, or that both have to be wide outs, a receiving TE and a Adams would have been better than Tae, and .... what MVS?

[Yoop]

When it doesn't work out it will be because they didn't give the quarterback 3-4 elite WRs after letting Boyd walk and not replacing him. Because the defense is just double teaming Chase and Higgins. Never mind that it would leave the Bengals 9 offensive players vs the opposing defense's 7 players...double team is always the answer why the stars don't produce.

crazy money, but Cinnci realizes if ya have a young QB, great receivers make the transition easier, who's Boyd??? I haven't followed every teams UFA

Favre, with multiple skill position players = owl

Rodgers, with multiple skill position players = owl

as soon as Teddy T. arrived he went after receivers and used a 2nd or 3rd rounder on one almost every draft till 2015, that process works.

the point is to have too many receiver options than a defense can defend, we had Adams and a bunch of bench jumpers, no TE, it's laugh out loud funny to hear you guys defend that BS, or think I'am foolish for pointing it out.

also every situation has it's own complexities, I probably would never pay what Chase got, never said ya need the two best in the league, or that both have to be wide outs, a receiving TE and a Adams would have been better than Tae, and .... what MVS?

thing is these numbers don't mean a thing, unless the performances produce results, and they didn't score points or keep the chains moving. and we lost against tough defenses, receivers dropped passes, and Love too often was out of sync.

were not looking for receivers to jump start this passing attack for kicks

again it is mind numbing baffling to me why people defend not having a better passing attack, which has been so obvious since 2015,

[APB]

thing is these numbers don't mean a thing, unless the performances produce results,

Remind me, again, who were the 2024 NFL playoff participants?

[Yoop]

thing is these numbers don't mean a thing, unless the performances produce results,

Remind me, again, who were the 2024 NFL playoff participants?

Cinnci has a lot of weak positions, again ya don't need the highest prices receivers in the league, ya just need more than one good one, which has always been my point.

I'am bringing this wiki because it shows what Ted did in 2005, and just how well he built that SB winning team, just awesome, and a great little read for all of us to remember just how great he was in his early years, also Ted drafted more WR's than any other position, by a lot, Teddy T new (at least way back then) that without receivers the QB is hobbled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Thompson

[go pak go]

I'am bringing this wiki because it shows what Ted did in 2005, and just how well he built that SB winning team, just awesome, and a great little read for all of us to remember just how great he was in his early years, also Ted drafted more WR's than any other position, by a lot, Teddy T new (at least way back then) that without receivers the QB is hobbled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Thompson

Ted's genius was finding the Day 2 guys who weren't that popular by the Industrial Draft complex. Outside of Cobb, the WRs he took were largely unknown and my gawd did he slay it often. Even Terrance Murphy had a bright future.

I can't think of a guy who frankly batted a 1000 on Day 2 positional picks his entire career. Absolutely wild. Not one bust besides Murphy who had a freak injury.

[Raptorman]

thing is these numbers don't mean a thing, unless the performances produce results,

Remind me, again, who were the 2024 NFL playoff participants?

Ah yes, the playoffs.

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          off points      def points.
Bengals       472            434
Packers       460            338

I wonder where that difference of two extra wins the Packers had came from? Not the offense.

[lupedafiasco]

TT was a god at finding round 2 WRs. To get Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, and Adams is incredible. For all his flaws drafting defensive players and lack of using FA he nailed OL and WR like no other.

[Yoop]

I'am bringing this wiki because it shows what Ted did in 2005, and just how well he built that SB winning team, just awesome, and a great little read for all of us to remember just how great he was in his early years, also Ted drafted more WR's than any other position, by a lot, Teddy T new (at least way back then) that without receivers the QB is hobbled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Thompson

Ted's genius was finding the Day 2 guys who weren't that popular by the Industrial Draft complex. Outside of Cobb, the WRs he took were largely unknown and my gawd did he slay it often. Even Terrance Murphy had a bright future.

I can't think of a guy who frankly batted a 1000 on Day 2 positional picks his entire career. Absolutely wild. Not one bust besides Murphy who had a freak injury.

the thing is there are a lot of very good receivers drafted after round one, and what makes those receivers great is a guy like Rodgers, who can build chemistry if the receiver simply runs precise routes, the precise routes takes the guess work out of how far to lead them.

we saw that chemistry building in 2022, then the Love injury, and add in that our receivers lead the league in drops, or were among the worst, It's possible, even probable, that that bad luck doesn't repeat itself, if not this offense could be very explosive even minus a deep threat

[APB]

thing is these numbers don't mean a thing, unless the performances produce results,

Remind me, again, who were the 2024 NFL playoff participants?

Cinnci has a lot of weak positions, again ya don't need the highest prices receivers in the league, ya just need more than one good one, which has always been my point.

I'am bringing this wiki because it shows what Ted did in 2005, and just how well he built that SB winning team, just awesome, and a great little read for all of us to remember just how great he was in his early years, also Ted drafted more WR's than any other position, by a lot, Teddy T new (at least way back then) that without receivers the QB is hobbled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Thompson

Ah yes, the playoffs.


off points def points.
Bengals 472 434
Packers 460 338
I wonder where that difference of two extra wins the Packers had came from? Not the offense.

That's the whole point!

When you spend nearly 50% of your cap on your QB and top 2 WRs, the rest of the roster suffers. It is not conducive to successful seasons or team building.

But yeah, enjoy those weapons...

[BF004]

TT was a god at finding round 2 WRs. To get Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, and Adams is incredible. For all his flaws drafting defensive players and lack of using FA he nailed OL and WR like no other.

[NCF]

I like this one. Let defenses play.

[BF004]

I like this one. Let defenses play.

Love it, always hated it.


It for sure can't be involved if they do the 4th and 20 onside kick alternative.

[Pckfn23]

I like this one. Let defenses play.

The scenario that always comes up for me is if it's 3rd/4th and long, the CB knows he is getting beat, just rip down the receiver. I am not sure I like that scenario being 3rd/4th and not as long the next down.

[NCF]

I like this one. Let defenses play.

The scenario that always comes up for me is if it's 3rd/4th and long, the CB knows he is getting beat, just rip down the receiver. I am not sure I like that scenario being 3rd/4th and not as long the next down.

That's pass interference and still an automatic first down. I do think they would have to define the difference effectively, but in your scenario, the intent to interfere should make it clear PI instead of illegal contact or holding.

[Pckfn23]

I like this one. Let defenses play.

The scenario that always comes up for me is if it's 3rd/4th and long, the CB knows he is getting beat, just rip down the receiver. I am not sure I like that scenario being 3rd/4th and not as long the next down.

That's pass interference and still an automatic first down. I do think they would have to define the difference effectively, but in your scenario, the intent to interfere should make it clear PI instead of illegal contact or holding.

I am talking without the ball in the air so it wouldn't be PI.
For example, if the receiver stems to the the inside, the CB flips hips inside, and the receiver releases outside. The CB is in a bad spot, so they reach and just pull the receiver down. Ball hasn't been thrown yet.

Or you get a "survive the down" scenario with a linebacker on Justin Jefferson in a 3rd/4th and long situation. Have the LB mug him and play the 3rd/4th and not as long situation.

[NCF]

The scenario that always comes up for me is if it's 3rd/4th and long, the CB knows he is getting beat, just rip down the receiver. I am not sure I like that scenario being 3rd/4th and not as long the next down.

That's pass interference and still an automatic first down. I do think they would have to define the difference effectively, but in your scenario, the intent to interfere should make it clear PI instead of illegal contact or holding.

I am talking without the ball in the air so it wouldn't be PI.
For example, if the receiver stems to the the inside, the CB flips hips inside, and the receiver releases outside. The CB is in a bad spot, so they reach and just pull the receiver down. Ball hasn't been thrown yet.

Or you get a "survive the down" scenario with a linebacker on Justin Jefferson in a 3rd/4th and long situation. Have the LB mug him and play the 3rd/4th and not as long situation.

Good point. I guess what I am asking for is leeway for officials to use their discretion and call that PI instead of illegal contact. Illegal contact should be minor hand checking re-routing away from the play, etc. Infractions that impact where a ball might have been thrown should be PI.

[Pckfn23]

That's pass interference and still an automatic first down. I do think they would have to define the difference effectively, but in your scenario, the intent to interfere should make it clear PI instead of illegal contact or holding.

I am talking without the ball in the air so it wouldn't be PI.
For example, if the receiver stems to the the inside, the CB flips hips inside, and the receiver releases outside. The CB is in a bad spot, so they reach and just pull the receiver down. Ball hasn't been thrown yet.

Or you get a "survive the down" scenario with a linebacker on Justin Jefferson in a 3rd/4th and long situation. Have the LB mug him and play the 3rd/4th and not as long situation.

Good point. I guess what I am asking for is leeway for officials to use their discretion and call that PI instead of illegal contact. Illegal contact should be minor hand checking re-routing away from the play, etc. Infractions that impact where a ball might have been thrown should be PI.

I wonder how it would look if holding and illegal contact were separated with the latter not resulting in an automatic first down and the former resulting in an automatic first down.