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Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:37
by APB
Scott4Pack wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:26
APB wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:21
To write this Packer team off as “not as good” ignores the fact we’ve seen them play a much cleaner game.
I'm gonna argue about that one.

On any given day of the week, there is a margin of error. There's more against bad teams and less against good teams. Against the Vikes, there is LESS.

Darnold's brain fart INT notwithstanding, the Vikes are playing superior ball against us. They did earlier in the season too and not by a little.

"Better" is not about potential or most of the time. It's about who usually plays a better brand of ball. That is the Vikes.

We aren't bad and have a good record. But we aren't on the same level as the Vikes.

If we manage to pull out this game, I will still think so. We are younger and less disciplined. They are more disciplined and might be coached better too.

Yes, the Vikes are better.
:roll:

You focused in on one sentence and completely ignored the point of the post you responded to. :aok:

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:38
by Pckfn23
Scott4Pack wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:36
Pckfn23 wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:29
Scott4Pack wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:26


I'm gonna argue about that one.

On any given day of the week, there is a margin of error. There's more against bad teams and less against good teams. Against the Vikes, there is LESS.

Darnold's brain fart INT notwithstanding, the Vikes are playing superior ball against us. They did earlier in the season too and not by a little.

"Better" is not about potential or most of the time. It's about who usually plays a better brand of ball. That is the Vikes.

We aren't bad and have a good record. But we aren't on the same level as the Vikes.

If we manage to pull out this game, I will still think so. We are younger and less disciplined. They are more disciplined and might be coached better too.

Yes, the Vikes are better.
You didn't actually argue against what APB said.
Okay.
Darnold = successfully doling out the plays all over. He is carving up our D.
Viking WRs/TEs = catching the ball.
Vike D = limiting all of our offense.
Love = what has he done?
Wicks/Doubs/Melton/Reed/Kraft = outside of a few catches, what have they done?

The Vikes are performing better. They are better. It isn't especially close AGAIN either.
You still didn't do it.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:38
by GJPackerBacker
Inconsistent pass play today, on both ends of the pass. :bkw:

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:39
by MY_TAKE
The 4th down Jayden Reed drop burned my ass!!! Viking receivers make every tough catch and we are lucky to catch balls right in our hands. I realize Watson is hurt but our WR room isn't as great as we sometimes think.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:39
by musclestang
I’m not looking towards the draft, we can be better.

I want to see fight the rest of this game

And they need to clean up moving forward and we’ll see what happens

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:41
by Scott4Pack
Pckfn23 wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:38
Scott4Pack wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:36
Pckfn23 wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:29

You didn't actually argue against what APB said.
Okay.
Darnold = successfully doling out the plays all over. He is carving up our D.
Viking WRs/TEs = catching the ball.
Vike D = limiting all of our offense.
Love = what has he done?
Wicks/Doubs/Melton/Reed/Kraft = outside of a few catches, what have they done?

The Vikes are performing better. They are better. It isn't especially close AGAIN either.
You still didn't do it.
What are you talking about? I pointed out how several of the Vikes, for example, are outdoing the Packers. I'm not going to do a 100% analysis of each team. Maybe if I did, we could say that we equal them "on paper."

But look at the scoreboard. We are getting whooped - AGAIN. If you only need one fact to analyze, then try that.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:41
by musclestang
MY_TAKE wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:39
The 4th down Jayden Reed drop burned my ass!!! Viking receivers make every tough catch and we are lucky to catch balls right in are hands. I realize Watson is hurt but our WR room isn't as great as we sometimes think.
Outside of Jacobs and Cooper, this team has zero playmakers today. Nice int I guess

Our WRs are looking poor overall today

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:41
by Scott4Pack
MY_TAKE wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:39
The 4th down Jayden Reed drop burned my ass!!! Viking receivers make every tough catch and we are lucky to catch balls right in are hands. I realize Watson is hurt but our WR room isn't as great as we sometimes think.
But the Viking WRs aren't better.

;-)

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:42
by Pckfn23
Scott4Pack wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:41
Pckfn23 wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:38
Scott4Pack wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:36


Okay.
Darnold = successfully doling out the plays all over. He is carving up our D.
Viking WRs/TEs = catching the ball.
Vike D = limiting all of our offense.
Love = what has he done?
Wicks/Doubs/Melton/Reed/Kraft = outside of a few catches, what have they done?

The Vikes are performing better. They are better. It isn't especially close AGAIN either.
You still didn't do it.
What are you talking about? I pointed out how several of the Vikes, for example, are outdoing the Packers. I'm not going to do a 100% analysis of each team. Maybe if I did, we could say that we equal them "on paper."

But look at the scoreboard. We are getting whooped - AGAIN. If you only need one fact to analyze, then try that.
APB wasn't talking about how the Vikings aren't better than us today.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:42
by Scott4Pack
The penalty sickness from earlier in the season has returned.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:43
by Pckfn23
Even our line has been poor today...

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:44
by go pak go
lupedafiasco wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:34
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:31
Am I imagining things, or are they running every play at Bullard?
I had my concerns about Bullard. Thought he had the possibility of being a Savage clone because he’s smaller
I seem to always have my concerns and excitement over every player.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:44
by Scott4Pack
Pckfn23 wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:43
Even our line has been poor today...
Yeah. But they aren't worse.

;-)

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:45
by lupedafiasco
Team is what their record is. They’re good like any other wild card team. They’re just fine. The attitude of this team started in the draft when we took a backup OT that did nothing to help our chances of winning a SB.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:45
by wallyuwl
Scott4Pack wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:41
MY_TAKE wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:39
The 4th down Jayden Reed drop burned my ass!!! Viking receivers make every tough catch and we are lucky to catch balls right in are hands. I realize Watson is hurt but our WR room isn't as great as we sometimes think.
But the Viking WRs aren't better.

;-)
Packers WR just need to put it together. If they ran better routes. And we're faster. And got better separation. And extended plays. And caught the ball. They are right there with Vikings WRs if they did these things.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:45
by go pak go
MY_TAKE wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:39
The 4th down Jayden Reed drop burned my ass!!! Viking receivers make every tough catch and we are lucky to catch balls right in our hands. I realize Watson is hurt but our WR room isn't as great as we sometimes think.
Yeah overall just disappointed in our receivers and passing game today. Probably my biggest take away.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:45
by musclestang
I don’t want to see them whither away, but that’s withering. Defense better make a stand to at least keep it respectable hete

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:46
by Crazylegs Starks
I'm not even going to get bent out of shape about this game. The playoffs are a different animal; weird, wild stuff happens all the time.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:47
by Pckfn23
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:46
I'm not even going to get bent out of shape about this game. The playoffs are a different animal; weird, wild stuff happens all the time.
100%. It's unfortunate that some have to cope by saying we are terrible and the season is over.

Re: Packers @ Vikings GDT: Sun., Dec. 29th, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 29 Dec 2024 17:47
by wallyuwl
lupedafiasco wrote:
29 Dec 2024 17:45
Team is what their record is. They’re good like any other wild card team. They’re just fine. The attitude of this team started in the draft when we took a backup OT that did nothing to help our chances of winning a SB.
Morgan was a terrible wasted pick. Walker was very goidlast year, yet before the draft Gute never gave him any praise. I didn't get it. Then he drafts Morgan. Such a waste.