Seemed like a little more than that to my eyego pak go wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 18:09I was very confident coming into this game.pack power wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 18:08I listened to a couple of morning football shows and 10 out of 12 picked the Packers to win and that scared me. Guess they will not do that again next week. I hope our Packers can rebound from this and return to playing football next week.
I will be very confident going into and playing them again. This is different than the 9ers games last year. We just beat ourselves on this one and it got way out of hand.
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4 of the 5 losses ?Labrev wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 18:11We haven't lost many games under LaFleur so far, but 3/4 of them have been BAD losses -- just total beatdowns.
The one exception being Philadephia at home last year, and frankly the refs cost us that one.
Honestly, just play the backups now, give them some live game experience and keep the starters healthy.
Philly the only close loss, playoffs definitely count
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What a blunder of a game. Turned on a dime from a winnable thing to an utter clusterduck...
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What a blunder of a game. Turned on a dime from a winnable thing to an utter clusterduck...
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An anomaly, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions out of it. If not for those two early INT's we might have given them what they gave us eventually.
oof. Bad day. Silver lining is that I don't think all hope is lost if we play these guys again, unlike what I thought against SF last year. The 2019 49ers were the type of team we just can't beat, but TB is not that. TB sort of looked like a classic Arians v Rodgers team, which is tough but beatable.
The teams we can't beat are the ones that get pressure with their front 4 and then cover well enough to cause Rodgers to never throw. Rodgers definitely went into the shell today and never threw, but I think that was moreso because he threw 2 picks and got shellshocked rather than because the CBs are just so good. Also they got their pressure from their ILBs and not their D Line. So, I respect them but I don't fear them like I did SF last year.
The teams we can't beat are the ones that get pressure with their front 4 and then cover well enough to cause Rodgers to never throw. Rodgers definitely went into the shell today and never threw, but I think that was moreso because he threw 2 picks and got shellshocked rather than because the CBs are just so good. Also they got their pressure from their ILBs and not their D Line. So, I respect them but I don't fear them like I did SF last year.
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38 unanswered kinda makes you do that though.German_Panzer wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 18:33An anomaly, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions out of it. If not for those two early INT's we might have given them what they gave us eventually.
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This game reminds me of the 2015 Cardinals game in December.
But is there a game where when Rodgers throws an interception, that he comes back and plays well after it? Just seems like once Rodgers gets knocked off...he just doesn't get back up.
But is there a game where when Rodgers throws an interception, that he comes back and plays well after it? Just seems like once Rodgers gets knocked off...he just doesn't get back up.
AJ Dillon was a bright spot though. They need to get him more and more involved in the game.
The defense will continue to be sus until we get a quality player at safety. It’s not for lack of trying that we don’t have one. But when is the last time Amos or Savage wowed us with a great game changing play?
Amos is competent most of the time, but we pay him enough for him to give us some “wow” moments every now and then
Amos is competent most of the time, but we pay him enough for him to give us some “wow” moments every now and then
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Rodgers is no different than other QBs. When you are getting hammered after every throw and/ or running for your life you can't really function and run your offense.
I just don't get it with our defense. Every year we say, "well if we only have this. If we only have that."
Our stars aren't playing to where they should be playing for the exception of Jaw. He did allow one play but was otherwise solid. But this defense my entire fanhood life except 2009 - 2010 has just let me down year after year.
At least Rodgers doesn't sound like a pouty bitch during his press conference.
So that is good.
So that is good.
Yeah I wasn’t trying to say “if we just had this” I was just saying we have a 1st rounder back there and a guy we pay good money...they should be playing better and we need more out of those two positions.go pak go wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 18:56I just don't get it with our defense. Every year we say, "well if we only have this. If we only have that."
Our stars aren't playing to where they should be playing for the exception of Jaw. He did allow one play but was otherwise solid. But this defense my entire fanhood life except 2009 - 2010 has just let me down year after year.
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For sure. Honestly all our high level FAs last year are playing poorly this year. It's pretty sad when Krys Barnes is the 2nd best defensive player behind Jaire Alexander in 2020.Drj820 wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 19:05Yeah I wasn’t trying to say “if we just had this” I was just saying we have a 1st rounder back there and a guy we pay good money...they should be playing better and we need more out of those two positions.go pak go wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 18:56I just don't get it with our defense. Every year we say, "well if we only have this. If we only have that."
Our stars aren't playing to where they should be playing for the exception of Jaw. He did allow one play but was otherwise solid. But this defense my entire fanhood life except 2009 - 2010 has just let me down year after year.
The most penalized team in the NFL before today was called for zero penalties...
There was almost nothing right about this game.
There was almost nothing right about this game.
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This is still a good team. At this point we do have trends though. This team cant come back when things go South.
If they can do what they want and impose their will theyll be fine. But when thats taken away from them and they need to play from behind they lose. If they play a strong pass rush regardless of coverage they lose. If they cant get any pressure defensively they lose.
I guess a lot of that applies to most teams but the trends are there in this teams losses. They do not adjust well when things arent working. The games they lose they play behind schedule, dont run much/lopsided run/pass ratio, they cant stop anything on defense, and they are usually on the road.
If they can do what they want and impose their will theyll be fine. But when thats taken away from them and they need to play from behind they lose. If they play a strong pass rush regardless of coverage they lose. If they cant get any pressure defensively they lose.
I guess a lot of that applies to most teams but the trends are there in this teams losses. They do not adjust well when things arent working. The games they lose they play behind schedule, dont run much/lopsided run/pass ratio, they cant stop anything on defense, and they are usually on the road.
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The first quarter was fine, we owned them. Rodgers' two picks changed the game and this team did fold. That is some concern. This team could be mentally fragile. MLF needs to establish a "Don't complain, compete"-toughness ASAP.
Yeah we have been poor and fragile when getting our ass kicked on the road in loses.
But we have also stayed mentally tough and pulled out games we shouldn't have or made many mistakes.
1. Detroit (1) 2019
2. Minnesota (2) 2019
3. Detroit (2) 2019
4. Detroit (1) 2020 (down by 14 to start)
4. New Orleans 2020 (key forced fumble by Z to win it)
But we have also stayed mentally tough and pulled out games we shouldn't have or made many mistakes.
1. Detroit (1) 2019
2. Minnesota (2) 2019
3. Detroit (2) 2019
4. Detroit (1) 2020 (down by 14 to start)
4. New Orleans 2020 (key forced fumble by Z to win it)
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Good serving of humble pie. They needed a good ass whopping to get back on track. It was ugly but everything that could go wrong did. It started in the trenches. They kicked the packers tails in. AR folded after the pics. Our playmakers didnt make plays. Preston has been trash and Z comes and goes. They need to step up
I dont think the bucs are a better team. They got us today but we can beat them in the playoffs.
Packers need to get back at it this week and get tough. I expect a fast start and killer instinct.
On to week 7
I dont think the bucs are a better team. They got us today but we can beat them in the playoffs.
Packers need to get back at it this week and get tough. I expect a fast start and killer instinct.
On to week 7
It's a motivating post for sure.Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑18 Oct 2020 21:55Good serving of humble pie. They needed a good ass whopping to get back on track. It was ugly but everything that could go wrong did. It started in the trenches. They kicked the packers tails in. AR folded after the pics. Our playmakers didnt make plays. Preston has been trash and Z comes and goes. They need to step up
I dont think the bucs are a better team. They got us today but we can beat them in the playoffs.
Packers need to get back at it this week and get tough. I expect a fast start and killer instinct.
On to week 7
We also always make these justifying posts after a loss. All depends on how they respond. They have two cupcake games coming up they need to win. The next big game will be SF which will be a TOUGH win. I wanted the Packers to go 3-1 on this stretch and figured the loss would come in Santa Clara. Dropping two to NFC powers would be really hard on us.
But we got our a$$ whopped after the 14 point swing. That has made my confidence in this team plummet. Our defense is bad. Unless they can get back to that pass rush magic, they are bad. And we can't do what we want if we have a bad defense.