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What really get me going is that he doesn't have to play that way. Jacksonville was missing pieces in the secondary and didn't play scared. Ya, they gave up a big play, but they gave us fits too. If they had an offense they may have actually beat us.
One trend I see with this team, extra time off has been a nightmare for them. Last year, bye week leading up to the 49ers game, team laid an egg.
What's also funny is when we finally manned up or sent 4 on 3rd down.....we dominated.
They looked pretty good though for the Seattle game.Christo wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 09:46One trend I see with this team, extra time off has been a nightmare for them. Last year, bye week leading up to the 49ers game, team laid an egg.
This year, bye week leading up to the Bucs game, team laid an egg. Add in the extra days off coming after a Thursday night game and this team comes out flat. Maybe getting the week off for the best record would be a bad thing?
I was looking at that recent trend yesterday, as well. This team seems to come out flat after an extended layoff.Christo wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 09:46One trend I see with this team, extra time off has been a nightmare for them. Last year, bye week leading up to the 49ers game, team laid an egg.
This year, bye week leading up to the Bucs game, team laid an egg. Add in the extra days off coming after a Thursday night game and this team comes out flat. Maybe getting the week off for the best record would be a bad thing?
I don't know. I think this team can function fine in the cold. Rodgers can throw the ball all over the place in frigid temps. But, the wind, seems to cripple our offensive identity while at the same time does nothing to the opposing offense when Pettine still sits in safe coverages play after play after play. The wind we have had these past two home games has been unusual. I suspect we will get some nicer home games coming up where it is an advantage to us again.
This is ridiculous.APB wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:14I was looking at that recent trend yesterday, as well. This team seems to come out flat after an extended layoff.Christo wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 09:46
One trend I see with this team, extra time off has been a nightmare for them. Last year, bye week leading up to the 49ers game, team laid an egg.
This year, bye week leading up to the Bucs game, team laid an egg. Add in the extra days off coming after a Thursday night game and this team comes out flat. Maybe getting the week off for the best record would be a bad thing?
That, and our "home field" advantage has been anything but. First, the Vikings, a dome team, came in and handed them their lunch. And now yesterday, a Florida team rolled in and basically outplayed this Packer team on their own turf on a cold and windy day.
I'm beginning to think maybe the #1 seed is exactly what this team doesn't need to be successful in January.
Egad. I'm afraid you might be on to something...Christo wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 09:46One trend I see with this team, extra time off has been a nightmare for them. Last year, bye week leading up to the 49ers game, team laid an egg.
This year, bye week leading up to the Bucs game, team laid an egg. Add in the extra days off coming after a Thursday night game and this team comes out flat. Maybe getting the week off for the best record would be a bad thing?
I agree it has more to do with the lack of motivation, game plan and I'd like to say backup players, however it's the vets that look to be taking plays off, our players ( I would bench Prestine Smith) shouldn't require the the last series of the game to give 100% effort rushing the QB, for the prior 58 minutes to act as though there in hibernation, P. Smith acts as though he already has one foot on the bus out of town, yes the tackling looked better last night, however look at the tech from backups like Sullivan, we don't wrap up, we shoulder bump, and it looks like that is the tech we teach, possibly to hopefully stay safe, but it sucks and we've given up so many big gainers to poor tackling.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:23This is ridiculous.APB wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:14I was looking at that recent trend yesterday, as well. This team seems to come out flat after an extended layoff.Christo wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 09:46
One trend I see with this team, extra time off has been a nightmare for them. Last year, bye week leading up to the 49ers game, team laid an egg.
This year, bye week leading up to the Bucs game, team laid an egg. Add in the extra days off coming after a Thursday night game and this team comes out flat. Maybe getting the week off for the best record would be a bad thing?
That, and our "home field" advantage has been anything but. First, the Vikings, a dome team, came in and handed them their lunch. And now yesterday, a Florida team rolled in and basically outplayed this Packer team on their own turf on a cold and windy day.
I'm beginning to think maybe the #1 seed is exactly what this team doesn't need to be successful in January.
I guess we came out flat after the first-round bye when we went up 21-3 on the Seahawks last year?
There is definitely something to discuss with energy or with the fanless home field situation, but suggesting we wouldn't want the 1-seed because of it is just absurd.
Poor tackling is league wide. Nobody teaches to wrap up anymore. Everything is just lower your shoulder and run into the ball carrier. This happens at every level of football these days.Yoop wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:48I agree it has more to do with the lack of motivation, game plan and I'd like to say backup players, however it's the vets that look to be taking plays off, our players ( I would bench Prestine Smith) shouldn't require the the last series of the game to give 100% effort rushing the QB, for the prior 58 minutes to act as though there in hibernation, P. Smith acts as though he already has one foot on the bus out of town, yes the tackling looked better last night, however look at the tech from backups like Sullivan, we don't wrap up, we shoulder bump, and it looks like that is the tech we teach, possibly to hopefully stay safe, but it sucks and we've given up so many big gainers to poor tackling.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:23This is ridiculous.APB wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:14
I was looking at that recent trend yesterday, as well. This team seems to come out flat after an extended layoff.
That, and our "home field" advantage has been anything but. First, the Vikings, a dome team, came in and handed them their lunch. And now yesterday, a Florida team rolled in and basically outplayed this Packer team on their own turf on a cold and windy day.
I'm beginning to think maybe the #1 seed is exactly what this team doesn't need to be successful in January.
I guess we came out flat after the first-round bye when we went up 21-3 on the Seahawks last year?
There is definitely something to discuss with energy or with the fanless home field situation, but suggesting we wouldn't want the 1-seed because of it is just absurd.
a win is a win, but this kinda play really sucks.
Kirksey is our best all around tackler at ILB. I think having him out there will help. A tweet that I just saw...Christo wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 11:04Poor tackling is league wide. Nobody teaches to wrap up anymore. Everything is just lower your shoulder and run into the ball carrier. This happens at every level of football these days.Yoop wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:48I agree it has more to do with the lack of motivation, game plan and I'd like to say backup players, however it's the vets that look to be taking plays off, our players ( I would bench Prestine Smith) shouldn't require the the last series of the game to give 100% effort rushing the QB, for the prior 58 minutes to act as though there in hibernation, P. Smith acts as though he already has one foot on the bus out of town, yes the tackling looked better last night, however look at the tech from backups like Sullivan, we don't wrap up, we shoulder bump, and it looks like that is the tech we teach, possibly to hopefully stay safe, but it sucks and we've given up so many big gainers to poor tackling.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 10:23
This is ridiculous.
I guess we came out flat after the first-round bye when we went up 21-3 on the Seahawks last year?
There is definitely something to discuss with energy or with the fanless home field situation, but suggesting we wouldn't want the 1-seed because of it is just absurd.
a win is a win, but this kinda play really sucks.
Was it because the safeties were busy babysitting our youthful CBs ?
some guys have the instinctive ability to play MLBer, Myles Jack is one such player, ya never (rarely) see him tangled up or playing paddy cake with a OLman or lead blocker, instead he keeps his hands moving to wash them off or he takes angles to avoid the blockers, Kirksey is not in his class, even so I think he had 8 tackles???? imho Kirksey is a average lber, Jacks is a PB player, maybe all pro, Jacks is the type player you build a defense around.go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 11:52There were just so many 6+ yard runs yesterday. We got lucky with some holding calls that ultimately had no impact on the play call back.
But what was super frustrating is then on 1st and 20, the Jaguars would go right back to the run and get 8 -12 yards. Who's responsibility was it that Robinson was always able to bounce outside? The Edge boys definitely sucked. Preston Smith was awful. But isn't there some onus on Kirksey too?
I mean we couldn't ever get Jones on the outside for us because Miles Jack was insane.
I just find it strange that "Kenny Clark and Christian Kirksey have their best game" and yet we couldn't stop the run.
yep great hustle and play from Gary, then on the last play Prestine shows why Guty gave him 50 mil. as I said we need more of this hustle from both players for 60 minutes.
we have been playing to many different players at key positions for to many games, we do get some great play, however just not as many as we could be seeing if our starters spent more time together on the field, I know this sounds like a simple assumption, however imo fans gloss over this as though it shouldn't matter, but there called backups for a reason.go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 14:20Here is the Packers high level stats on defense after yesterday:
Yards Allowed: 10th. 335 yards per game
Passing Yards Allowed: 13th. 225 yards per game
Rushing Yards Allowed: 12th. 111 yards per game
Points Allowed: 15th. 24.9 points per game.
Note on the points. We are 14 total points away so far from being 9th in points allowed per game. So it is very packed from 9th to 15th.
It also important to note that the defense has been victim to 24 garbage points in the 4th quarter vs MN, 14 points essentially scored by the TB Defense, 14 points due to screw ups by backups in garbage time vs the 49ers and 10 points scored by ST's/Jags defense.
Still. A point is a point. I think at this point it is safe to say our defense is right at a 10th to 15th place defense in the league.
I think we can be much better than that. I think we have the talent to be a 5th to 10th place defense if we play more sound and top 5 defense if we get the Smith and Gary explosion like we would like.
Hey, let's face it, this is a Jekyll and Hyde team. Yes, they've had injuries and they've seldom had the starters all on the field at the same time.Yoop wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 15:03we have been playing to many different players at key positions for to many games, we do get some great play, however just not as many as we could be seeing if our starters spent more time together on the field, I know this sounds like a simple assumption, however imo fans gloss over this as though it shouldn't matter, but there called backups for a reason.go pak go wrote: ↑16 Nov 2020 14:20Here is the Packers high level stats on defense after yesterday:
Yards Allowed: 10th. 335 yards per game
Passing Yards Allowed: 13th. 225 yards per game
Rushing Yards Allowed: 12th. 111 yards per game
Points Allowed: 15th. 24.9 points per game.
Note on the points. We are 14 total points away so far from being 9th in points allowed per game. So it is very packed from 9th to 15th.
It also important to note that the defense has been victim to 24 garbage points in the 4th quarter vs MN, 14 points essentially scored by the TB Defense, 14 points due to screw ups by backups in garbage time vs the 49ers and 10 points scored by ST's/Jags defense.
Still. A point is a point. I think at this point it is safe to say our defense is right at a 10th to 15th place defense in the league.
I think we can be much better than that. I think we have the talent to be a 5th to 10th place defense if we play more sound and top 5 defense if we get the Smith and Gary explosion like we would like.