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Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 22:32
by Labrev
williewasgreat wrote:
29 Nov 2020 22:23
Labrev wrote:
29 Nov 2020 22:20
I think they might go for this, not just try to draw them offsides.
Kind of shows ML's lack of confidence in the defense.
I saw an article a few days ago saying that coach's decision to punt vs. JAX in Q4 was the worst decision by any coach that week, citing certain probability statistics about how the reward of converting outweighed the risk by quite a bit, even with the possibility of JAX scoring the go-ahead TD if we failed to convert.

I can't say I agreed with their conclusion, but I thought of it here. I wonder if there was any discussion about that internally.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 22:35
by GJPackerBacker
Very nice win against a great rival. The D needs to improve or our post season will be short and not so sweet.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 22:35
by Crazylegs Starks
Labrev wrote:
29 Nov 2020 22:32
williewasgreat wrote:
29 Nov 2020 22:23
Labrev wrote:
29 Nov 2020 22:20
I think they might go for this, not just try to draw them offsides.
Kind of shows ML's lack of confidence in the defense.
I saw an article a few days ago saying that coach's decision to punt vs. JAX in Q4 was the worst decision by any coach that week, citing certain probability statistics about how the reward of converting outweighed the risk by quite a bit, even with the possibility of JAX scoring the go-ahead TD if we failed to convert.

I can't say I agreed with their conclusion, but I thought of it here. I wonder if there was any discussion about that internally.
That's the kind of thing the analytics guys are supposed to look at so I wouldn't be surprised if it came up. Outside statisticians have been saying NFL coaches are too conservative on 4th down for years.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 22:50
by BF004
williewasgreat wrote:
29 Nov 2020 22:23
Labrev wrote:
29 Nov 2020 22:20
I think they might go for this, not just try to draw them offsides.
Kind of shows ML's lack of confidence in the defense.
Football math nerds are winning.

Statistically the correct decision to go for it.

Check out Ben Baldwin on Twitter, he basically created a 4th down going for it calculator and the decision and difference in win probability.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 22:51
by BF004
Actually, he even has his own bot account, lol.




Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:06
by Pugger
go pak go wrote:
29 Nov 2020 20:03
There is that putty poo Savage again.
I hope his back isn't too bad...

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:10
by Pugger
lulu wrote:
29 Nov 2020 20:06
German_Panzer wrote:
29 Nov 2020 19:59
We always look decent against average teams.
Jacksonville?
They gave a pretty decent Browns team all they could handle today. AZ had no business losing to NE. The Raiders got blown out by the Falcons. The Rams lost to the 9ers. You just never know.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:12
by Pugger
Drj820 wrote:
29 Nov 2020 20:17
Why are they talking about hicks being out everytime we have a good run like we aren’t missing our center?
But they did give Jenkins a game ball after the game.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:12
by Pugger
Ghost_Lombardi wrote:
29 Nov 2020 20:19
My wife: Who keeps yelling 3-19??? It is so annoying.

Me: **face palm **
:lol: :lol:

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:14
by Pugger
go pak go wrote:
29 Nov 2020 20:24
I'm really glad they didn't call the mask.
They missed a face mask against Indy last week.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:16
by Pugger
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
29 Nov 2020 20:50
lulu wrote:
29 Nov 2020 20:45
Dungy is sounding like a real Bears homer. Starting to annoy me.
He's always like that. He rarely says anything positive about the Packers (with the exception of Rodgers).
He wasn't as bad as I thought he was gonna be tonight. He had a lot of nice things to say about several of our players and even Lambeau.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:18
by Pugger
salmar80 wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:07
Preston finally having a good game. About time to get hot.
It might be because they let him rush the passer instead of going into coverage.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:20
by Pugger
Drj820 wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:26
I thought this bears team at least had a good defense lmao
It demonstrates how good Hicks is. They really aren't the same without him.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 29 Nov 2020 23:24
by Pugger
go pak go wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:54
Drj820 wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:53
Kirksey can’t cover old man jimmy.

Not complaining tonight, just saying :lol:
I am. I'm pissed.

This is a fail of the defense tonight. If they did well in previous weeks for me not to be concerned I wouldn't care. But they are allowing 17 points to the 2nd worst offense in the league.
We had a big lead. I didn't mind prevent here. Plus it eats up the clock. I didn't care for their last drive before the half, however.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 03:46
by Scott4Pack
Nothing bad to say about the Packer offense. It just worked.

About the D, there's another story. If Trubisky doesn't throw two bonehead passes for INTs, the game might be different. At least our DBs were in position to get the ball on those.

Before the game got out of hand, da Bears had too chunk plays. And if Trubisky doesn't look like he's in spring training, he completes another half dozen passes to move the chains.

This could've easily been a close game. But I still think the Pack wins. The offense never really was stopped and it didn't hand over the ball. Good to see after the debacle of last week.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 05:24
by Cdragon
Pugger wrote:
29 Nov 2020 23:24
go pak go wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:54
Drj820 wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:53
Kirksey can’t cover old man jimmy.

Not complaining tonight, just saying :lol:
I am. I'm pissed.

This is a fail of the defense tonight. If they did well in previous weeks for me not to be concerned I wouldn't care. But they are allowing 17 points to the 2nd worst offense in the league.
We had a big lead. I didn't mind prevent here. Plus it eats up the clock. I didn't care for their last drive before the half, however.
I'd rather eat the clock with us in possession of the ball. :munch:

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 06:10
by go pak go
Pugger wrote:
29 Nov 2020 23:24
go pak go wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:54
Drj820 wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:53
Kirksey can’t cover old man jimmy.

Not complaining tonight, just saying :lol:
I am. I'm pissed.

This is a fail of the defense tonight. If they did well in previous weeks for me not to be concerned I wouldn't care. But they are allowing 17 points to the 2nd worst offense in the league.
We had a big lead. I didn't mind prevent here. Plus it eats up the clock. I didn't care for their last drive before the half, however.
I saw a lot of blitzing. I saw a lot of press corner.

I don't think we can just chaulk up the 4th quarter defense to playing prevent to make us feel better. We have to do that as Packers fans because our defense just actually sucks.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 06:13
by go pak go
This was supposed to be a game where we got better on team defense in terms of NFL rank for yards and points. I expected the Packers to easily be top 10 after this last stretch.

But we gave up 351 yards and 25 points which is our average for the year.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 06:43
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote:
30 Nov 2020 06:10
Pugger wrote:
29 Nov 2020 23:24
go pak go wrote:
29 Nov 2020 21:54


I am. I'm pissed.

This is a fail of the defense tonight. If they did well in previous weeks for me not to be concerned I wouldn't care. But they are allowing 17 points to the 2nd worst offense in the league.
We had a big lead. I didn't mind prevent here. Plus it eats up the clock. I didn't care for their last drive before the half, however.
I saw a lot of blitzing. I saw a lot of press corner.

I don't think we can just chaulk up the 4th quarter defense to playing prevent to make us feel better. We have to do that as Packers fans because our defense just actually sucks.
We weren't playing press end of 2nd half and most of the 1nd half. We only blitzed a few times in the 2nd half.

We played off as soon as it was 41-10. I wish we hadn't because the rush was getting home and Mitch was getting it out quick.

Re: Duh Bares Vs. The Packers

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 06:45
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote:
30 Nov 2020 06:13
This was supposed to be a game where we got better on team defense in terms of NFL rank for yards and points. I expected the Packers to easily be top 10 after this last stretch.

But we gave up 351 yards and 25 points which is our average for the year.
15 points after we were up 41-10, how many yards?