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Yoop wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:14
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 16:47
Compare Robert Tonyan to Rob Gronkowski in 2020.

Compare Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Antonio Brown in 2020.
the point was Brady asked for those players, and Ariens and Tampa FO said OK we'll get you those players because we respect who you are, Rodgers didn't ask for anything, and got a back up RB, what a deal, oh and a rookie clip board holder :rotf:
And the point is what Brady asked for wasn't worth half a &%$@ compared to what the Packers gave Aaron naturally. In those 2 cases.
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paco wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:23
Yoop wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:14
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 16:47
Compare Robert Tonyan to Rob Gronkowski in 2020.

Compare Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Antonio Brown in 2020.
the point was Brady asked for those players, and Ariens and Tampa FO said OK we'll get you those players because we respect who you are, Rodgers didn't ask for anything, and got a back up RB, what a deal, oh and a rookie clip board holder :rotf:
And the point is what Brady asked for wasn't worth half a &%$@ compared to what the Packers gave Aaron naturally. In those 2 cases.
Is that the point? That sounds like a good point. I can never tell what the point is though, it always changes.
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paco wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:23
Yoop wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:14
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 16:47
Compare Robert Tonyan to Rob Gronkowski in 2020.

Compare Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Antonio Brown in 2020.
the point was Brady asked for those players, and Ariens and Tampa FO said OK we'll get you those players because we respect who you are, Rodgers didn't ask for anything, and got a back up RB, what a deal, oh and a rookie clip board holder :rotf:
And the point is what Brady asked for wasn't worth half a &%$@ compared to what the Packers gave Aaron naturally. In those 2 cases.
well Tampa already had a team built for Brady too, the point, and we all know what it is, in Bradys case Tampa went above and beyond to get impact players to help Brady take them to the top, in Rodgers case no real impact players where added, that produced for the offense, doesn't matter that Gronk and Brown didn't play up to par, it's that Tampa tried, and Guty drafted Rodgers replacement instead, thats basically my point.

and as with Gary, this has nothing to do with Love the person/player, and I can dislike some decisions Guty makes and support others, I like almost everything he's done, just not this, or the Gary pick 2 years ago, he didn't help us stop the run last year, and Love wore a sport coat Sunday, so why do I have to like these picks? :idn:

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Oh ok then. Snacks Harrison. Tramon Williams. Christian Kirksey. Tavon Austin. Marcede Lewis. Add those 5 to:
Zadarius Smith
Preston Smith
Adrian Amos
Billy Turner
Rick Wagner

That's a lot of not trying. Is trying the point now?
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Yoop wrote:
02 Feb 2021 18:12
paco wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:23
Yoop wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:14


the point was Brady asked for those players, and Ariens and Tampa FO said OK we'll get you those players because we respect who you are, Rodgers didn't ask for anything, and got a back up RB, what a deal, oh and a rookie clip board holder :rotf:
And the point is what Brady asked for wasn't worth half a &%$@ compared to what the Packers gave Aaron naturally. In those 2 cases.
well Tampa already had a team built for Brady too, the point, and we all know what it is, in Bradys case Tampa went above and beyond to get impact players to help Brady take them to the top, in Rodgers case no real impact players where added, that produced for the offense, doesn't matter that Gronk and Brown didn't play up to par, it's that Tampa tried, and Guty drafted Rodgers replacement instead, thats basically my point.

and as with Gary, this has nothing to do with Love the person/player, and I can dislike some decisions Guty makes and support others, I like almost everything he's done, just not this, or the Gary pick 2 years ago, he didn't help us stop the run last year, and Love wore a sport coat Sunday, so why do I have to like these picks? :idn:
What the hell are you even talking about with this “Brady got what he asked for” line of nonsense? AB chased Brady all the way to Tampa as did several other veteran players seeking a ring. Brady didn’t ask for anything, it happened on its own. The Tampa staff and front office didn’t do anything extraordinary to accommodate Brady, the players chasing a ring accommodated the organization by taking very reasonable short term deals in an attempt to ride Brady to another Super Bowl and the riches that follow in ensuing seasons.

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APB wrote:
02 Feb 2021 18:19
Yoop wrote:
02 Feb 2021 18:12
paco wrote:
02 Feb 2021 17:23


And the point is what Brady asked for wasn't worth half a &%$@ compared to what the Packers gave Aaron naturally. In those 2 cases.
well Tampa already had a team built for Brady too, the point, and we all know what it is, in Bradys case Tampa went above and beyond to get impact players to help Brady take them to the top, in Rodgers case no real impact players where added, that produced for the offense, doesn't matter that Gronk and Brown didn't play up to par, it's that Tampa tried, and Guty drafted Rodgers replacement instead, thats basically my point.

and as with Gary, this has nothing to do with Love the person/player, and I can dislike some decisions Guty makes and support others, I like almost everything he's done, just not this, or the Gary pick 2 years ago, he didn't help us stop the run last year, and Love wore a sport coat Sunday, so why do I have to like these picks? :idn:
What the hell are you even talking about with this “Brady got what he asked for” line of nonsense? AB chased Brady all the way to Tampa as did several other veteran players seeking a ring. Brady didn’t ask for anything, it happened on its own. The Tampa staff and front office didn’t do anything extraordinary to accommodate Brady, the players chasing a ring accommodated the organization by taking very reasonable short term deals in an attempt to ride Brady to another Super Bowl and the riches that follow in ensuing seasons.

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your right, but Tampa still obliged, and I didn't expect Guty to get a expensive FA, maybe Rodgers did, who knows, but neither of us expected him to trade up for a QB, who will probably not play for 3 more years, may never play, when so many slot type WR's where available.

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And there is the real point, complaining about not taking a WR in the first round of the 2020 NFL draft... Again.

Rodgers and the Packers offense was the highest scoring in the league in 2020.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 14:32
Wagner, Turner, Amos, P. Smith, Z. Smith... That's a lot of produce!

Maybe meat and taters like Dillon, Degura, Jenkins, Sternberger!
I think AR wants some snacks like a WR opposite Adams and perhaps a true slot guy. to balance out the produce, meat and potatoes.

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Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 18:29
And there is the real point, complaining about not taking a WR in the first round of the 2020 NFL draft... Again.

Rodgers and the Packers offense was the highest scoring in the league in 2020.
We don't have to go WR in the first. The best WR in the game today was taken in the second. ;)

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Pugger wrote:
02 Feb 2021 19:34
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 14:32
Wagner, Turner, Amos, P. Smith, Z. Smith... That's a lot of produce!

Maybe meat and taters like Dillon, Degura, Jenkins, Sternberger!
I think AR wants some snacks like a WR opposite Adams and perhaps a true slot guy. to balance out the produce, meat and potatoes.
Marginal upgrade unless the the guy is a true #1.

We did get snacks, Snacks Harrison!

I slot/gadget guy would be helpful, but not something any of us thought was truly necessary a year ago.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 18:29
And there is the real point, complaining about not taking a WR in the first round of the 2020 NFL draft... Again.

Rodgers and the Packers offense was the highest scoring in the league in 2020.
We all knew it was coming.

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02 Feb 2021 13:48
I agree the Packers should be in "go all in for 2021 and 2022 mode". I want it to happen.

I also don't know how that is going to happen when we are already essentially a bottom 5 team in terms of cap.

But I don't hate the idea of go all in for 2021 and 2022 and blow it up in 2023/2024.

The one nice thing about cap is you can clean it up in a year. You will absolutely suck during that year. But who cares? It's a year.
i think that ships sailed. The year to do that was last year and this year.
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The Packers obviously had the talent to get to the super bowl in 2020. I am firmly in the camp that believes that. i think they didnt make the super bowl bc they essentially choked in the NFC Championship.

However, Going Rashan Gary at 12 when you just spend 100m+ on the position, then going Love when you have Rodgers and Dillon when you have Jones and Williams on the roster is like the opposite of going all in for now. Its thinking hard about the future.

I would wager that if there was ever a time to go "all in" and worry less about 4 years down the line would have been the 2020 season before we lost Aaron Jones, Linsley, a CB and etc.
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I think the loss of King/Jones and even Linsley can be weathered. I do expect 1 of those to be back (I am guessing Linsley).

We have won games with Jones and/or King out of the lineup anyway. Also, I am pretty bullish on Dillon. I think he can be a guy who will replace what we lose in Jones and even be a star in his own right.

I don't think the window has closed just yet, but we definitely squandered what easily could have been a SB appearance. That sucks regardless.

2022 and '23 free agencies, though? Oof. Looking at those actually kinda makes me understand the Love pick.
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APB wrote:
02 Feb 2021 20:13
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Feb 2021 18:29
And there is the real point, complaining about not taking a WR in the first round of the 2020 NFL draft... Again.

Rodgers and the Packers offense was the highest scoring in the league in 2020.
We all knew it was coming.
of course you did, why would you think I'd change my mind, it was a wasted draft pick that wont help in Rodgers window, I'am not some homer like some of you and just agree with everything a GM does, LOve did absolutely nothing for this team, a WR would have helped this last year, next year and so on.

reality is this, the highest scoring offense in the league didn't score enough when it mattered most, and according to you and others here, another WR couldn't possibly have helped, do you people even listen to yourselves, laugh at me, to funny

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Actually, going all-in, as in REALLY all-in for a short term window, would not be picking needs in 1st round. Too few 1st rounders outside top 10 picks are immediate difference makers. If you truly wanted to max the now, you'd trade away your top picks.

If Gutey wants to play Sir Aaron's butler, I'm sure he could serve his master a hot WR and anything else His Lordship demands by trading away a 1st rounder or few. Especially with several teams either in cap trouble or in rebuilding mode.
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salmar80 wrote:
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Actually, going all-in, as in REALLY all-in for a short term window, would not be picking needs in 1st round. Too few 1st rounders outside top 10 picks are immediate difference makers. If you truly wanted to max the now, you'd trade away your top picks.

If Gutey wants to play Sir Aaron's butler, I'm sure he could serve his master a hot WR and anything else His Lordship demands by trading away a 1st rounder or few. Especially with several teams either in cap trouble or in rebuilding mode.
I keep hearing how a rookie doesn’t help us this year but you know what does? That rookie going into year two next year. The Love pick was what I’ve been saying this team is all about for years. They’re main interest is prolonged success in terms of playoff appearances. If they win the Super Bowl that’s an added bonus but it hasn’t been his teams main goal for a very long time. They do enough to keep us relevant. It’s like giving drugs to an addict. We keep coming back for more and paying more in the hopes we can reach the same high.

Instead of getting someone to develop to increase your chances of winning they took a player that will never see a game for at least 3 years. You may have well as drafted Justin Harrell.
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Our receivers are what they are because of Rodgers.

Same with our oline.

Best talent he has been given recently is a 2nd round guard.

I guess we just have to wait to see how this team does when Rodgers is gone. Hopefully before then we build out a better team and don't have to rely on godly QB play.

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Tee Higgins would have been good pick up ... Straight into the 2nd wr spot and potential number 1 we.

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bud fox wrote:
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Tee Higgins would have been good pick up ... Straight into the 2nd wr spot and potential number 1 we.
Captain Hindsight to the rescue!!

Never mind Higgins wasn’t considered a top end talent, he was over-targeted in a struggling offense, and was turned to by their rookie QB when their veteran WR struggled mightily...none of which happened in GB.

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