Drj820 wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022 06:49
go pak go wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022 06:00
The primary reason I am fine letting Rodgers walk...
In my opinion, from my observation, the main reason you are fine with punting Rodgers is because you think the success we have had with him, can be found without him. You seem to think the recent success is due to the toys around him, so you want to keep the toys.
To that I say, good luck.
This is particularly frustrating because he literally made a post to explain his rationale, and you responded by saying "in my opinion, your rationale is..." and then just filled in bias and gobbledegook.
Like here's the thing. Aaron Rodgers has been our starting QB for 14 seasons now. Two of those seasons have been injury-shortened. In that time period we have seen the highest of highs (MVP performances, Super Bowl win), and the middlingest of lows (our lows are usually pretty danged good, only occasionally missing the playoffs). MOST of that time has been spent in the in-betweenland.
When you look back at the years where Rodgers was on the team but the team's output
and Rodgers' output sank down into the land of mediocrity (in terms of stats, wins, and losses) you ask "why isn't this team doing better with
Rodgers on the team? And so the team replaces the General manager, fires and replaces the head coach, signs 3-4 high-value free agents, identifies players from the previous regime that count as building blocks for the future, drafts a handful of young emerging stars, and finds some free agent bargains.
These changes have led to three 13-win seasons, a 2-seed, two 1-seeds, two (and counting) trips to the NFC championship, a return of Rodgers to MVP levels for the first time since 2014, but in consecutive years, and
hopefully a Super Bowl this year.
And then people say "our success is
because of Rodgers"
Obviously, Rodgers being the best QB enhances every outcome of every game. But Rodgers being great at QB wasn't enough to
escape mediocrity for
half a decade. So OBVIOUSLY the changes we made to the team around him mattered. We are getting better play from Rodgers and better results from Rodgers because we surrounded him with better coaching and better playing.
Go Pack Go explicitly stated that his belief is that if we keep Rodgers, while we may still have the coaching, the salary cap will push the state of his supporting cast back to where it was prior to all of these changes and acquisitions. His view is that we have seen that movie, and we know that Rodgers without a strong supporting cast is a waste of his talent and unlikely to result in championships, if even playoff wins, if even playoffs. We know this because we all, every one of us, watched it happen. For years. We watched Aaron Rodgers not be enough.
So when people start talking about gutting the team of high-value players in order to keep Rodgers, we simply ask: how will that yield better outcomes and results than 2018 and 2017? Why do you believe that 39, 40, and 41-year old Rodgers is better able to overcome personnel and supporting cast shortcomings than 35 and 36 year old Rodgers was?
It's a very clear point of view. It's well reasoned, and it's been explicitly articulated. And then DrJ comes in and just says "nah, I don't think that's your rationale; I've observed you, and in my opinion, you think we can be just as good as we are now without Rodgers"
Like gimme a break.
