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Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 25 Oct 2024 18:11
by Pckfn23
Halftime adjustments are a high school thing. Since a lot of people played, they understand that. In reality it is real time after high school since there aren't 2 way players.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 25 Oct 2024 22:22
by RingoCStarrQB
NCF wrote: ↑25 Oct 2024 13:09
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑25 Oct 2024 09:49
Half Empty wrote: ↑24 Oct 2024 15:56
Cornerback Kamari Lassiter (Shoulder) OUT
Safety Jimmie Ward (Groin) OUT
Linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair (Knee) OUT
Linebacker Henry To’oTo’o (Concussion) OUT
Wide Receiver Robert Woods (Foot) OUT
Wide Receiver Steven Sims (Back) OUT
This was precisely why the TRAP game concept was intelligently removed from the pre game chatter. Perfectly rational logical thinking and reporting by Ringo.
Those that disagree can GPS where the sun don't shine.
So, to re-cap. Our defense played well because the Texans had a bunch of defenders injured? They were down Nico and back of the roster players on offense. You belong in a looney bin.
Keep it up and you might figure it out. Right now you're failing miserably.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 26 Oct 2024 14:04
by BSA
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One of the comments from Hafley's recent presser struck me as strategically brilliant
He was answering a question about using simulated pressures and he said that sometimes they are showing pressure just to force the offense to keep an RB or TE in to block. By doing that, its one less threat in the pattern...AND he is making the LOS the "battlefront" instead of letting the RB/TE take the battle out in to the flat - where they have the match-up advantage. Hafley just says, no thanks.
We'll have that skirmish right here on the LOS - where the RB/TE's superior athleticism is hindered. Advantage, defense
Our DC is really Impressive
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 26 Oct 2024 19:48
by RingoCStarrQB
BSA wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024 14:04
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One of the comments from Hafley's recent presser struck me as strategically brilliant
He was answering a question about using simulated pressures and he said that sometimes they are showing pressure just to force the offense to keep an RB or TE in to block. By doing that, its one less threat in the pattern...AND he is making the LOS the "battlefront" instead of letting the RB/TE take the battle out in to the flat - where
they have the match-up advantage. Hafley just says, no thanks.
We'll have that skirmish right here on the LOS - where the RB/TE's superior athleticism is hindered. Advantage, defense
Our DC is
really Impressive
Maybe this optimism will result in a Packers home field advantage throughout and an epic NFCCG in Titletown?
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 27 Oct 2024 16:50
by LombardiTime
Thoughts on today's performance include:
1) I really hope Evan Williams is not out for long and that Jaire is OK;
2) Edgerrin Cooper makes a lot of plays that I am unused to see a Packer inside linebacker make;
3) McKinney is rally smart and very good;
4) If the pass rush was not going to show up while we were up 10 in the 4th Quarter of today's game I am uncertain it will ever show up this season. And at this point I put the pass rushing woes on the players/talent not the Defensive Coordinator.
Big test coming up against the number 1 scoring offense in the NFL next Sunday.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 28 Oct 2024 11:50
by wallyuwl
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 00:53
by salmar80
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 11:54
by Scott4Pack
Has anybody talked about how X baited the Jags QB? He literally showed the QB how he was going to go one way (following his read) but then turned back to jump in front of the receiver that he knew was coming. Result = INT.
Yeah, this guy just gets it. We haven't had an intuitive defensive player like this since Woodson.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 11:56
by LombardiTime
Packers 2024 DVOA ranking through eight games is 12th, a marked improvement over 27th in 2023.
Very surprised to see Detroit's D is ranked 3rd.
Minnesota is 1st and Chicago is 10th (probably higher if no Hail Mary's included).
The NFC North is no joke this season.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 11:59
by RingoCStarrQB
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024 11:54
Has anybody talked about how X baited the Jags QB? He literally showed the QB how he was going to go one way (following his read) but then turned back to jump in front of the receiver that he knew was coming. Result = INT.
Yeah, this guy just gets it. We haven't had an intuitive defensive player like this since Woodson.
Eugene Robinson comes to mind as well. Leroy Butler's sack blitzed were priceless too.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 12:18
by BF004
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024 11:54
Has anybody talked about how X baited the Jags QB? He literally showed the QB how he was going to go one way (following his read) but then turned back to jump in front of the receiver that he knew was coming. Result = INT.
Yeah, this guy just gets it. We haven't had an intuitive defensive player like this since Woodson.
No one could run a pick 6 like Woodson.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 15:26
by Scott4Pack
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024 11:59
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024 11:54
Has anybody talked about how X baited the Jags QB? He literally showed the QB how he was going to go one way (following his read) but then turned back to jump in front of the receiver that he knew was coming. Result = INT.
Yeah, this guy just gets it. We haven't had an intuitive defensive player like this since Woodson.
Eugene Robinson comes to mind as well. Leroy Butler's sack blitzed were priceless too.
Eugene's career in GB was just too short! Glad we had him for a time.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 18:43
by APB
It ain’t all about pass rush…
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 01 Nov 2024 23:09
by BSA
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The 2024 Packers are currently ranked # 10 in sacks per game
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sacks-per-game
The 2024 Packers are currently ranked # 13 in sack percentage
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sack-pct
2024 Packers are currently tied for 12th in opponent passer rating allowed
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/o ... ser-rating
2024 Packers defense is ranked number #9 in opponent completion % allowed
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/o ... letion-pct
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 02 Nov 2024 06:39
by APB
We tend to key in on specific statistical short-comings - at least
perceived short-comings when it comes to pass rush - but the bigger picture clearly shows an efficient defense that combines pass rush and coverage that makes things difficult for an opposing offense.
Those Joe Barry 3rd and short defensive alignments where the CBs would be playing 8 yds off the LOS seem like such a distant memory now...
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 02 Nov 2024 07:48
by Yoop
Thanks for the stats
We miss Williams. Between McKinney and Williams, we have had as good safety play as any team in the league. It's a shame we don't have Williams for this game.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 02 Nov 2024 14:54
by RingoCStarrQB
It is Time! Bring it.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 05 Nov 2024 17:52
by LombardiTime
Pack's D has slipped to 13th in DVOA and 13th in opponent's points per game.
I'm going to take the optmistic view and hope that Jaire and Evan Williams get healed up over the bye, some combination of LVN/Mosby/Cox lights a fire at edge, and Kenny Clark finally makes an appearance over the final 8 games of the 2024 season.
Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 09 Nov 2024 15:08
by BSA
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Where do you think the 2024 Packers Defense ranks in allowing opponents to convert on 3rd down ?
See how close your guess was here:
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/o ... s-per-game
A little more context below.
How frequently does the Packers 2024 defense force their opponents into a 3rd down ?
See ranking below
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/o ... s-per-game
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Re: Packers Defense - 2024
Posted: 09 Nov 2024 19:53
by RingoCStarrQB
The Packers D has plenty of games on the 2024 schedule to become the premier defense in the NFL. The defense will get better and better.
