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It pays him a LOT more NOW. Plus, it has a second year built in. If he balls in 2023 and starts 2024 the same, they will renegotiate his contract. No doubt. This is a very good deal for Love. Just ask him. I think he will probably speak to that at some point.
It isn't better for Love. If it's better for Love its worse for the packers and the worst possible position (monetarily) for the packers was to exercise the option.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑02 May 2023 17:21It pays him a LOT more NOW. Plus, it has a second year built in. If he balls in 2023 and starts 2024 the same, they will renegotiate his contract. No doubt. This is a very good deal for Love. Just ask him. I think he will probably speak to that at some point.
How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.
Could purchase insurance to cover that one-year exposure.salmar80 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:05How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.
I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...
As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.
We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.salmar80 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:05How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.
I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...
As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.
I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believeDrj820 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:40We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.salmar80 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:05How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.
I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...
As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.
13 million guaranteed over the next couple years is NOTHING in qb Money for a projected starter. And nothing says the packers have to rip the deal up and give him another one I’d love does well in 2023.
Either forcing the packers hand in excerxising the option, or determining to make them pay is the confident move
?? Lol this post makes no sense.Yoop wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:57I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believeDrj820 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:40We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.salmar80 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:05
How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.
I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...
As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.
13 million guaranteed over the next couple years is NOTHING in qb Money for a projected starter. And nothing says the packers have to rip the deal up and give him another one I’d love does well in 2023.
Either forcing the packers hand in excerxising the option, or determining to make them pay is the confident move
Love has plenty of confidence in himself, he wouldn't have gotten this far if he didn't, I think your under estimating just how hard it is to succeed for young QB's in this league, take a closer look, 70% fail, and it does get better as in Loves case of being coached up for 3 years, still there are no guarantees with that and Love is fully aware that he could struggle, lose confidence, never to be heard from again.
I think folks look at the successes, and fail to realize that for every success, 2 don't, it's why Rodgers got that deal prior to last season, Love got a good deal.
I'd like to hear what ya had to say if you where in Love spot
No one knows how things will go, that is the whole point of this conversation, no one pimped out, this was a fair contract for both sidesDrj820 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 19:05?? Lol this post makes no sense.Yoop wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:57I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believeDrj820 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:40
We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.
13 million guaranteed over the next couple years is NOTHING in qb Money for a projected starter. And nothing says the packers have to rip the deal up and give him another one I’d love does well in 2023.
Either forcing the packers hand in excerxising the option, or determining to make them pay is the confident move
Love has plenty of confidence in himself, he wouldn't have gotten this far if he didn't, I think your under estimating just how hard it is to succeed for young QB's in this league, take a closer look, 70% fail, and it does get better as in Loves case of being coached up for 3 years, still there are no guarantees with that and Love is fully aware that he could struggle, lose confidence, never to be heard from again.
I think folks look at the successes, and fail to realize that for every success, 2 don't, it's why Rodgers got that deal prior to last season, Love got a good deal.
I'd like to hear what ya had to say if you where in Love spot
First you guarantee he has confidence, then you list reasons where things could go wrong…like 70% failing and injury.
Trust me, elite athletes all should believe they will be in the 30% that will succeed.
As for me, it’s simple..like I said in first post on the matter at hand…if I thought I was going to ball out, I would not sign through 2024.
If I thought I may struggle, I would secure what I could. (Which is what Love did)
Like I said, it’s a fine deal to sign, just shows both sides aren’t convinced of how things will go.
The Packers have a guy in his 4th and 5th year in the league that they expect to be their starting QB for about 23 million over the course of the next TWO years….this is GREAT deal for GB.Yoop wrote: ↑02 May 2023 19:38No one knows how things will go, that is the whole point of this conversation, no one pimped out, this was a fair contract for both sidesDrj820 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 19:05?? Lol this post makes no sense.Yoop wrote: ↑02 May 2023 18:57
I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believe
Love has plenty of confidence in himself, he wouldn't have gotten this far if he didn't, I think your under estimating just how hard it is to succeed for young QB's in this league, take a closer look, 70% fail, and it does get better as in Loves case of being coached up for 3 years, still there are no guarantees with that and Love is fully aware that he could struggle, lose confidence, never to be heard from again.
I think folks look at the successes, and fail to realize that for every success, 2 don't, it's why Rodgers got that deal prior to last season, Love got a good deal.
I'd like to hear what ya had to say if you where in Love spot
First you guarantee he has confidence, then you list reasons where things could go wrong…like 70% failing and injury.
Trust me, elite athletes all should believe they will be in the 30% that will succeed.
As for me, it’s simple..like I said in first post on the matter at hand…if I thought I was going to ball out, I would not sign through 2024.
If I thought I may struggle, I would secure what I could. (Which is what Love did)
Like I said, it’s a fine deal to sign, just shows both sides aren’t convinced of how things will go.
You're making this way more than it needs to be.Drj820 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 19:57The Packers have a guy in his 4th and 5th year in the league that they expect to be their starting QB for about 23 million over the course of the next TWO years….this is GREAT deal for GB.Yoop wrote: ↑02 May 2023 19:38No one knows how things will go, that is the whole point of this conversation, no one pimped out, this was a fair contract for both sidesDrj820 wrote: ↑02 May 2023 19:05
?? Lol this post makes no sense.
First you guarantee he has confidence, then you list reasons where things could go wrong…like 70% failing and injury.
Trust me, elite athletes all should believe they will be in the 30% that will succeed.
As for me, it’s simple..like I said in first post on the matter at hand…if I thought I was going to ball out, I would not sign through 2024.
If I thought I may struggle, I would secure what I could. (Which is what Love did)
Like I said, it’s a fine deal to sign, just shows both sides aren’t convinced of how things will go.
I’m not making it more than it needs to be. I’m just making a benign observation that Love took the deal because he too is hedging for the possibility that he is not successful. Simple.go pak go wrote: ↑02 May 2023 20:56You're making this way more than it needs to be.
This is not a dramatic deal. It's a 1 year deal. This year is still based on the rookie contract. All this is simply an additional year extension for the Packers and Love to know they will be with each other for 2 years. Love is taking a $7 million haircut if the worst case happens but he is happy because he still gets $13 million if the worst case happens.
The Packers are also happy because they save $7 million if the worst case happens and only pays $2.5 Million if Love exceeds expectations.
But this isn't a lack of confidence from Love. In fact, Love could be looking at himself getting $2.5 million more with this deal than a 5th year option.
Its intelligent risk management. Nobody should turn away life-changing, generational wealth when provided the option. And because it's only for one year, Love can still have confidence in himself and get the real contract 2025 and beyond.