Poll: What should we call our QB sneak-push?

[wallyuwl]

I think the Eagles are just really good at doing it, why no one else has done this in 18 years.

Hurts has some tree trunks and Kelce is the best center in the league.

Other teams try it and are no where near as successful.

Eagles are simply better, no reason to change any rules around it I don't think. Not sure why the rule was changed in 2005, would like to hear the for and against arguments then. But I wouldn't change it now just because 1 team and only 1 team has exceptional personnel and execution to take advantage of it.

Have any other teams really tried it? You never saw the RB(s) push the QB forward before the Eagles did it. Most teams were/are afraid of getting their QB hurt. Yeah, the Eagles are good at it. But I think they also just are the first to really focus on it to take advantage of the rule change.

[Pckfn23]

Packers have done it 4 times.

[BF004]

Many teams have tried it over the last two years now. No one has matched their success or frequency yet.

Everyone just says it’s so easy and unstoppable. If that were true, 32 teams would be doing it right now.

[go pak go]

Many teams have tried it over the last two years now. No one has matched their success or frequency yet.

Everyone just says it’s so easy and unstoppable. If that were true, 32 teams would be doing it right now.

It'd be really cool if someone would clip together all the Jordan Love QB sneaks on 4th down this year. We have done it a lot. We have succeeded a lot. I do think we did fail one in the first 5 weeks though.

[Yoop]

so now we have a push to daylight, versus run to daylight, in the words of the great late Vince, " just what the hell is going on out there"

agree to disagree, no way I'am buying in to this garbage, not only does it give the offense a unfair advantage, it just is another example of officials doing less for there pay, why even have a back judge, line judge, minus the ability to do this and no one would even know who Hurts is.

getting harder and harder for me to watch a game I grew up to love.

[Yoop]

Many teams have tried it over the last two years now. No one has matched their success or frequency yet.

Everyone just says it’s so easy and unstoppable. If that were true, 32 teams would be doing it right now.

It'd be really cool if someone would clip together all the Jordan Love QB sneaks on 4th down this year. We have done it a lot. We have succeeded a lot. I do think we did fail one in the first 5 weeks though.

and I'd bet you never saw the pushers behind Love that ya have with Philly

[musclestang]

I don't think it's anything like play action. I also have zero problems with a team putting 5 blockers at a point of attack off a right tackle to overload it, none whatsoever. BUt making a wall between you and the ball carrier where it's game enough to try and defeat that wall to get to the ball carrier, and then allow 2-3 other guys to come from behind who's sole job is to lift, push, carry a stopped ball carrier is just &%$@ football.

It might not be so bad if every benefit of every forward progress situation didn't also favor the offense. Let them push the QB, and blow it dead as soon as his forward progress is halted.

Expecting a defense to be able to be constrained by all the other rules benefitting the offense and defend the field and overcome a 2-3 person advantage pushing or carrying a ball carrier isn't the game I played, or the game I love. It's cheap. I hate cheap. or it's rugby, I also don't care much for rugby.

It was never a legal play the entire time I played. Aiding a ball carrier anywhere on the field was a penalty. I don't think it would be too difficult to make it illegal behind the LOS.

[Yoop]

I don't think it's anything like play action. I also have zero problems with a team putting 5 blockers at a point of attack off a right tackle to overload it, none whatsoever. BUt making a wall between you and the ball carrier where it's game enough to try and defeat that wall to get to the ball carrier, and then allow 2-3 other guys to come from behind who's sole job is to lift, push, carry a stopped ball carrier is just &%$@ football.

It might not be so bad if every benefit of every forward progress situation didn't also favor the offense. Let them push the QB, and blow it dead as soon as his forward progress is halted.

Expecting a defense to be able to be constrained by all the other rules benefitting the offense and defend the field and overcome a 2-3 person advantage pushing or carrying a ball carrier isn't the game I played, or the game I love. It's cheap. I hate cheap. or it's rugby, I also don't care much for rugby.

It was never a legal play the entire time I played. Aiding a ball carrier anywhere on the field was a penalty. I don't think it would be too difficult to make it illegal behind the LOS.

same here

[Trudge]

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[MY_TAKE]

I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other at this point. That could change I suppose. I do know if I put the Packers in the Eagles place, I would be all for keeping it. That would be quite biased obviously.

[Yoop]

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thanks Trudge, glad to hear the commish doesn't like this style of football either, hopefully the rules committee agrees.

[TheSkeptic]

The fact is that it is a dangerous play for your QB. All the D needs to do is to put a dirty player like Suh over the center and no one will run that play against that D again. Save it for the playoffs.

[Pugger]

I see most of the votes went to Love Shove but I thought Ram and Cheese was clever as hell.

[Crazylegs Starks]

I see most of the votes went to Love Shove but I thought Ram and Cheese was clever as hell.

Thank you! I was struggling to come up with names, but I thought I nailed that one.

"It's gold, Jerry! Gold!"

[Drj820]

The fact is that it is a dangerous play for your QB. All the D needs to do is to put a dirty player like Suh over the center and no one will run that play against that D again. Save it for the playoffs.

Hard to hurt Jalen Hurts though. Guy probably squats as much as Suh-around 500 lbs. Thats why he can get away with it and others may be scared of it.

[APB]

The fact is that it is a dangerous play for your QB. All the D needs to do is to put a dirty player like Suh over the center and no one will run that play against that D again. Save it for the playoffs.

Hard to hurt Jalen Hurts though. Guy probably squats as much as Suh-around 500 lbs. Thats why he can get away with it and others may be scared of it.

He's reportedly over 600 lbs with his squat weight.

[Drj820]

The fact is that it is a dangerous play for your QB. All the D needs to do is to put a dirty player like Suh over the center and no one will run that play against that D again. Save it for the playoffs.

Hard to hurt Jalen Hurts though. Guy probably squats as much as Suh-around 500 lbs. Thats why he can get away with it and others may be scared of it.

He's reportedly over 600 lbs with his squat weight.

Ya and even with hurts outrageous squat and workout routine…he’s still been dinged up most of the year. I don’t think consistent tush push can be survived for a whole season by anyone but him, and maybe not even him

[wallyuwl]

The fact is that it is a dangerous play for your QB. All the D needs to do is to put a dirty player like Suh over the center and no one will run that play against that D again. Save it for the playoffs.

Hard to hurt Jalen Hurts though. Guy probably squats as much as Suh-around 500 lbs. Thats why he can get away with it and others may be scared of it.

He's reportedly over 600 lbs with his squat weight.

This is based off of college. There is a video the networks have played since he was in college of his squat. He gets crap depth and help from spotter. His real squat is probably closer to 525-550 (likely less now - pros don't train heavy really). Still impressive. I only did 507 @ 217 lbs at age 19.