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Yeah he chocked. The rook did, too. Only the rook missed 13 other times this season, too.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 20:39Whew, good thing Buffalo didn't take a rookie kicker into the divisional round. Glad they had their trusted vet.
Wind machine turned on turboYoHoChecko wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 20:43@Drj820 howdid the NFL TSwift collab impact that kick so much???
Me too. Fumbling should be punished.musclestang wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 20:24I’d be fine if every fumble went to the defense if it wasn’t recovered by the offense. The most important thing on the field is the ball, the most important part of the field is the endzone. Lose it in enemy territory , you’ve lost it. I think it’s a great rule.
I hopped on to say this as well, really sucks for both teams to get knocked out repeatedly by the same team year after year in winnable games. At least the Packers aren’t cursed by the smoking man.
Easy fix, don't fumble!
The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?APB wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 20:30You can make the same argument that the offense lost possession and didn’t recover it.Scott4Pack wrote: But the league cannot award a defense with possession when they never gained possession of the ball.
I’m with @YoHoChecko. The impetus is on the offense to retain possession. If the defense makes a play causing them to lose possession and it goes through the endzone, they should receive the reward.
The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.Half Empty wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:02The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?APB wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 20:30You can make the same argument that the offense lost possession and didn’t recover it.Scott4Pack wrote: But the league cannot award a defense with possession when they never gained possession of the ball.
I’m with @YoHoChecko. The impetus is on the offense to retain possession. If the defense makes a play causing them to lose possession and it goes through the endzone, they should receive the reward.
thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep upwilliewasgreat wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:15The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.Half Empty wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:02The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?APB wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 20:30You can make the same argument that the offense lost possession and didn’t recover it.
I’m with @YoHoChecko. The impetus is on the offense to retain possession. If the defense makes a play causing them to lose possession and it goes through the endzone, they should receive the reward.
The rules have never changed on this.Yoop wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:26thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep upwilliewasgreat wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:15The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.Half Empty wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:02
The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?
last one is confusing, if a player crosses the goal line it's a TD, what happens with the ball after he scores is what????go pak go wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:36The rules have never changed on this.Yoop wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:26thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep upwilliewasgreat wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:15
The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.
fumble out of bounds anywhere on the field stays with the offense without a clear defensive recovery
fumble out of bounds in your EZ is a safety
fumble out of bounds into the opponent's EZ is an automatic loss of possesion and the ball is placed on the 20 yardline for the opposing team
Yoop wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:59last one is confusing, if a player crosses the goal line it's a TD, what happens with the ball after he scores is what????go pak go wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:36The rules have never changed on this.Yoop wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 09:26
thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep up
fumble out of bounds anywhere on the field stays with the offense without a clear defensive recovery
fumble out of bounds in your EZ is a safety
fumble out of bounds into the opponent's EZ is an automatic loss of possesion and the ball is placed on the 20 yardline for the opposing team
I believe your referencing that if the player fumbles prior to scoring and the ball enters the EZ but then goes out of bounds it's what? a turnover and the ball is placed on the 20, thats sounds right,
again so many rule changes, saying these have never changed, why would I know that? thats why I asked. thanks, I think.
The ball is placed for an extra point if the player crosses the goalline.last one is confusing, if a player crosses the goal line it's a TD, what happens with the ball after he scores is what????
Correct. If a player is about to score but fumbles prior to EZ and ball leaves offensive player control and subsequently goes out of bounds beyond the pylon...it is the defense's ball as a touchback (ball at 20 yardline for opponent)I believe your referencing that if the player fumbles prior to scoring and the ball enters the EZ but then goes out of bounds it's what? a turnover and the ball is placed on the 20, thats sounds right,
No rule changes. It has been this way for at least my entire lifetime. If not forever.again so many rule changes, saying these have never changed, why would I know that? thats why I asked. thanks, I think.
no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,
I keep answering your questions that you keep asking. I tried simplifying by breaking it into three pieces like you stated. I don't know what else to do for you. I will try and answer again.Yoop wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 10:54no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,
the question that matters, since that was the contested situation with one of the fumbles I saw.
The player crossing the goalline is irrelevant. It is the ball that is relevant.no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,
He did answer the question with a simple answer... You asked what happens with the ball after he scores. That is what happens... It's a TD the moment the ball touches the goal line in the player's possession.Yoop wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 10:54no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,
the question that matters, since that was the contested situation with one of the fumbles I saw.
That doesn’t fix a stupid rule.williewasgreat wrote: ↑22 Jan 2024 04:34Easy fix, don't fumble!