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I know this is going to upset many, but the draft should not be somewhere that accommodations within a reasonable distance are in the $1500+ minimal range
Same dirt different shovel on Packers home game gamedays for accommodations in Titletown. Greed at it's very finest.
not that I support or like it, but as the saying goes, got to make hay when the sun shines, and thats a great example, business jack those prices way up, fuel, food, booze, these people have no scruples
I know this is going to upset many, but the draft should not be somewhere that accommodations within a reasonable distance are in the $1500+ minimal range
Ideally, but it’s totally fine once every ~30 years
I know this has more been about the city of Green Bay, but I wanted a place to dump this:
Looking for Corner, Edge, off-ball LB with coverage instincts, a Center, and probably another OL prospect (T/G depending on where they determine Morgan's best position to be)
CB and EDGE are premium positions, so likely targets early. LB, C, and developmental OL depth are great mid-round targets (rnds 3-5)
Very doable offseason wish list from my point of view.
I know this has more been about the city of Green Bay, but I wanted a place to dump this:
Looking for Corner, Edge, off-ball LB with coverage instincts, a Center, and probably another OL prospect (T/G depending on where they determine Morgan's best position to be)
CB and EDGE are premium positions, so likely targets early. LB, C, and developmental OL depth are great mid-round targets (rnds 3-5)
Very doable offseason wish list from my point of view.
I have no idea on the CB group but I could see this year being the year of double dipping CB in the top 100. Still think we really need to target a guy with agility to be a slot. Usually those guys are good early Day 2 candidates and I would have no problem trading back and having that be our first selection.
Will be interesting on edge and how many of that tier 1/tier2 group will be available by mid 20's. Might be a good idea to instead attack that group late day 2/early day 3. Other teams do that with good success.
Also wouldn't be disappointed if we look at WR. Likely will see either Doubs or Watson leave after 2025 and will need either Wicks or a new guy to step into that role. Ideally I would resign Watson for the pure talent and hope Wicks could step into Doubs's role but there is no evidence that to be the case so far this year. The gap between 87 and 13 is rather large.
I too would like ILB and really like to target that position late day 2 and into day 3. Frankly would love it if they started playing Hopper these final weeks. Just have no idea what type of skill set this dude actually has.
Also wouldn't be disappointed if we look at WR. Likely will see either Doubs or Watson leave after 2025 and will need either Wicks or a new guy to step into that role. Ideally I would resign Watson for the pure talent and hope Wicks could step into Doubs's role but there is no evidence that to be the case so far this year. The gap between 87 and 13 is rather large.
I'm so torn on WR because I agree we need to prep for the departure of some of these guys but I also feel like we don't have a great roster spot for developing anyone. I guess ONE guy could just push Melton off the end, but there is a teensy bit of a glut in a good way.
Also, Wicks is just having his sophomore slump with the dropsies as a way to continue the Davante comparisons. He'll be fine
I think Watson and Reed are the keepers of the group, though. I'd always keep the playmaking ability and trust myself to find the chain-moving possession guys. Also, Wason's injury history and inconsistency will keep his price tag well below the top of the market and he always has the potential to bust it out at any given time to be a top-quality player. I'd be looking to extend him this offseason, honestly, before the price goes up. Love the blocking, too.
Agreed with Watson and Reed being our guys though I don't know if it make sense to keep both. I think Watson and Reed will still be steep (not top dollar but big dollar regardless). The WR market is ridiculous and his talent alone will have teams salivate. Just from a team building cap perspective, I don't know if it makes sense to allocate so much dollars to QB and WR when we are so good at drafting and replacing. We tried the *throw money at Rodgers/Cobb/Nelson and Rodgers/Cobb/Adams. Might be better to keep one WR, Kraft and then replace the rest of the WR group with draft picks.
If we extend Watson this year, I fear Doubs may do another mental breakdown and ask to be traded early. He's just a different cookie but it was great to see him show emotion, personality, and celebration on Sunday.
I certainly wouldn't chase a WR but if the Packers find a guy in the top 100 they like and take them...I'm not arguing it. The Packers are the best team IMO in the league on finding WRs (and I would also argue Oline) in that 35 - 130 range of the draft.
If we extend Watson this year, I fear Doubs may do another mental breakdown and ask to be traded early.
Then so be it. I think Doubs is the easy let go even though he has been arguably their most productive WR. I think Wicks can step into that role and I think Reed and Watson fit defined roles so much better. Also, given the head case stuff, Watson over Doubs seems like a slam dunk decision.
If we extend Watson this year, I fear Doubs may do another mental breakdown and ask to be traded early.
Then so be it. I think Doubs is the easy let go even though he has been arguably their most productive WR. I think Wicks can step into that role and I think Reed and Watson fit defined roles so much better. Also, given the head case stuff, Watson over Doubs seems like a slam dunk decision.
Also nice getting Doubs' return from the concussion on a prime time game with two TD catches and a beauty of a catch for one of them.... nice in terms of "trade value"
And yeah, Watson right now would likely cost over $20M/year but he won't sniff $30M/year so that's a small win, haha
If he has a breakout year before we sign him, then I dunno...
Also wouldn't be disappointed if we look at WR. Likely will see either Doubs or Watson leave after 2025 and will need either Wicks or a new guy to step into that role. Ideally I would resign Watson for the pure talent and hope Wicks could step into Doubs's role but there is no evidence that to be the case so far this year. The gap between 87 and 13 is rather large.
I'm so torn on WR because I agree we need to prep for the departure of some of these guys but I also feel like we don't have a great roster spot for developing anyone. I guess ONE guy could just push Melton off the end, but there is a teensy bit of a glut in a good way.
Also, Wicks is just having his sophomore slump with the dropsies as a way to continue the Davante comparisons. He'll be fine
I think Watson and Reed are the keepers of the group, though. I'd always keep the playmaking ability and trust myself to find the chain-moving possession guys. Also, Wason's injury history and inconsistency will keep his price tag well below the top of the market and he always has the potential to bust it out at any given time to be a top-quality player. I'd be looking to extend him this offseason, honestly, before the price goes up. Love the blocking, too.
But now I'm getting far afield.
IMO Doubs is Loves go to guy because they have the best chemistry this season, and Reed has seen the most double coverage, just my observation, I could be wrong (very doubtful though ) nice to see you posting again Yoho
so nice to have these dilemma, so many receivers that have proven their abilities have just scratched the surface, and still have more ceiling
Final Contract Year 2025
Christian Watson
Romeo Doubs
Final Contract Year 2026
Jayden Reed
Dontavyon Wicks
Tucker Kraft
Luke Musgrave
I think you sign two of these guys to 2nd contracts - maybe 3. Only must sign in my opinion is Tucker Kraft. You don't let this perfect Packer fit go to another team. This is a once in a Packer generational find.
If Watson gets his injury thing figured out I am extending him in 2025 (either before season, during or right away in 2026 offseason). The difficult decision in 2026 and spring 2027 is going to be Jayden Reed. On one end the dude is an absolute baller. Combination of Deebo Samuel and St. Brown. On the other end do you allocate so much cap space to three pass catchers when the Packers are so good at drafting pass catchers (especially those 5' 10" guys)
Wildcard is Wicks. If he takes the Adams path and starts surfacing in 2025 it puts a wrench in the Watson, Reed, Wicks decision. Which is why I'm more inclined on holding off on a Watson deal until we see more clarity in 2025.
I know this is going to upset many, but the draft should not be somewhere that accommodations within a reasonable distance are in the $1500+ minimal range
Same dirt different shovel on Packers home game gamedays for accommodations in Titletown. Greed at it's very finest.
not that I support or like it, but as the saying goes, got to make hay when the sun shines, and thats a great example, business jack those prices way up, fuel, food, booze, these people have no scruples
Scruples? The market is the market! I've listen to you for years lecturing on players deserving salaries that the average person will never see. Never have you spoken about scruples! Average person who invests their own resources, in themself, to create business opportunities, have no scruples??? Funny how that works!
Wicks (5th round) and Doubs (4th round) are the kind of guys we stockpile in the mid rounds based on a very well-known and easy-to-articulate formula. No need to extend either. We can draft a replacement for the possession guy.
Kraft, Reed, Watson and "draft picks" will be a helluva corps for Love into the future.
That's why we need an OT, as well. Can't pay both Walker and Tom. That's why we need a C: even if Myers is good enough now, you can't pay a mediocre lineman starter money if we're keeping the others around.
There will be tough choices, for sure; and I'm sure the team won't agree with me on them all. But it's very easy to identify which positions we can more easily replace and which we can't. Even if Wicks pops off, I let him go get top dollar elsewhere. It's just the exact kind of player we find over and over again. The big, tall, fast and the smaller gadget slot are players we've missed or been mediocre on time and again.
Same dirt different shovel on Packers home game gamedays for accommodations in Titletown. Greed at it's very finest.
not that I support or like it, but as the saying goes, got to make hay when the sun shines, and thats a great example, business jack those prices way up, fuel, food, booze, these people have no scruples
Scruples? The market is the market! I've listen to you for years lecturing on players deserving salaries that the average person will never see. Never have you spoken about scruples! Average person who invests their own resources, in themself, to create business opportunities, have no scruples??? Funny how that works!
wow, those post are 6 months old, where have you been? and they were declarative statements of how business operate, the scruples comment was meant in humor, no one likes the 20% increases we see for major events.
also it's common sense to know Unions demand a % of profits, that's not lecturing actually, it's just reality
I think a better way to say this is you can't pay both of them Top 5 OT money. But if you structure it well and they're willing to take more security upfront in exchange for less later... or vice-versa...I believe it can be done. The rate of cap increase over the next few years should allow both to stay in GB and I'd guess they will lock up Tom in 2025 and then Walker in 2026 so they get to see more of Rasheed's development
not a ton of options but man if you live in GB...good week to make a buck
) nice to see you posting again Yoho 
