Packers Huddle

BF004 wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2025 16:12

we been saying this a lot the last 5 or so years eventually we need to mature a tad.

Yoop wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 12:10

BF004 wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2025 16:12

we been saying this a lot the last 5 or so years eventually we need to mature a tad.

No we were only young just last year. We were definitely older in the 2019 - 2022 window

Here's Larry with some run-game cut-ups from Packers-Eagles in Sept

go pak go wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 12:24

Yoop wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 12:10

BF004 wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2025 16:12

we been saying this a lot the last 5 or so years eventually we need to mature a tad.

No we were only young just last year. We were definitely older in the 2019 - 2022 window

were at 25.11 average this year, and 24.9 last year, and we are always on the young side of average, and last year was the youngest for about 6 years or so when the Browns averaged around 24.3, what separates us from the Browns and most very young rosters is that we went to the play offs, most young teams don't

In 2022 we were the 21st youngest team. In 2021 we were the 15th. We are not ALWAYS on the young side of average.

The Browns are one of the older teams in the NFL this year and were on the older side of average last year.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 13:02

In 2022 we were the 21st youngest team. In 2021 we were the 15th. We are not ALWAYS on the young side of average.

The Browns are one of the older teams in the NFL this year and were on the older side of average last year.

AR and Big Dog walking out the door makes a big difference.

The Ringer with their write-up on the Packers-Eagles game

https://www.theringer.com/2025/01/09/nf ... ms-vikings

Green Bay Packers at Philadelphia Eagles (-4.5)

"The betting market opened with the Eagles as a 3.5-point favorite on Sunday night. After one-way action that pushed Philadelphia out to -5.5, we’ve seen money come back on Green Bay to settle on the Eagles as 4.5-point favorites. Both teams have been coy about the availability of their starting quarterbacks, but I expect this is just a bit of gamesmanship. I wouldn’t be concerned about the status of Jordan Love or Jalen Hurts, and do expect Hurts to clear concussion protocol on Thursday.

The Packers will be without Christian Watson, who before he tore his ACL was the Packers’ most reliable receiver. He finished 16th in the NFL in yards per route run among qualified receivers and is the most explosive player on the offense.

These two teams met in Week 1, but with two new defensive coordinators and a slippery field in Brazil, I don’t think we learned much from that meeting. The Eagles were quite shaky defensively prior to the bye. Since Week 6, you could argue they are the league’s best defense.

The emergence of Zack Baun at linebacker and Cooper DeJean at slot corner has helped solidify the Eagles’ ability to cover the middle of the field. The defense is no. 1 in EPA per drive allowed since Week 6. Vic Fangio’s group has matured well, and the key matchup is the Packers’ offensive explosiveness against the Eagles’ ability to prevent big plays.

If you put a roof over the top of the Green Bay offense, they haven’t been nearly as efficient this year. Since Week 6, the Eagles have allowed the lowest explosive play rate in the league. Green Bay is in the top five offensively in explosive play rate in that time frame, but without Watson, they’ll need to be more methodical.

When you watch this game Sunday afternoon, expect to see a ton of early running. The Packers and Eagles rank first and third in the NFL in first-half rush rate.

The Eagles have struggled to score early in games for the majority of the season. Philadelphia’s first-quarter offense is 25th in EPA per play, compared to fourth in the remainder of the game. The Packers offense has performed better on script, and I rate Matt LaFleur as a considerably better offensive game planner than both Nick Sirianni and Kellen Moore. Add in that Hurts hasn’t played competitive football in a month and missed two weeks of practice due to a concussion, and I think Green Bay can play this game closer to a toss-up in the first half.

I bet Green Bay +3 first half (-120).

After halftime, the Eagles’ talent advantage and ability to generate more big plays could show itself.

The key for the Eagles offense is whether Hurts can exploit the Packers over the middle of the field. We’ve seen Detroit and Minnesota expose Green Bay’s zone coverage over the middle in all four meetings this season. Those two offenses are well schemed to use that area, but the Eagles use the middle of the field in the passing game as little as any team in the league.

Green Bay is a zone-heavy defense, and the Eagles have turned to DeVonta Smith as their zone buster all season. While A.J. Brown is the league’s best receiver against man coverage, Smith has more total targets (57) than Brown (54) when teams play zone. This was evident especially in the Steelers game for the Eagles, so I’ll be targeting Smith props as well.

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" The Eagles have struggled to score early in games for the majority of the season."


And Hurts has been hurt and out. Some rust is to be expected early on

GB has a clear edge in 1st quarter scoring:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/1 ... -per-game

Boy could we use Slaton this week. Eagles line is beefy.

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here's the win probability from the game back in September. Quite the back n forth contest
Box score below - and GB had 3 drives late that resulted in a punt, INT, missed FG

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 060phi.htm

salmar80 wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 14:17

Boy could we use Slaton this week. Eagles line is beefy.

Huber said Slaton was "limited" with an ankle injury. ( ... Slaton was doing some light running)
Fingers crossed he's able to go on Sunday, but an ankle injury is concerning for a DT that needs to absorb combo blocks.
On the flip side, the clips from Larry show the Packers beating their OL with speed & quickness as opposed to beef on beef

The Packers were undefeated outside of their own division when playing in the United States this season.

Slaton told reporters he's playing Sunday.

Cdragon wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 13:20

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 13:02

In 2022 we were the 21st youngest team. In 2021 we were the 15th. We are not ALWAYS on the young side of average.

The Browns are one of the older teams in the NFL this year and were on the older side of average last year.

AR and Big Dog walking out the door makes a big difference.

I think median age would be a better indicator than mean age.

NCF wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 14:52

The Packers were undefeated outside of their own division when playing in the United States this season.

As long as that trend continues they'll... lose next week.

wallyuwl wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 15:06

Cdragon wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 13:20

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2025 13:02

In 2022 we were the 21st youngest team. In 2021 we were the 15th. We are not ALWAYS on the young side of average.

The Browns are one of the older teams in the NFL this year and were on the older side of average last year.

AR and Big Dog walking out the door makes a big difference.

I think median age would be a better indicator than mean age.

Probably right.

But honestly I think median and mean will give very similar results because the age range for an NFL player is pretty small (approx 15 years).

Unless we really want to care about 24.1 compared to 24.2 or 24.3

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Going into the playoffs last year, the Packers were ranked # 13 in DVOA while the Cowboys were ranked # 4

Dallas DVOA 19.2 %
Packers DVOA 1.6 %

This year, rolling into playoffs the Packers are ranked # 4
The eagles are ranked # 2

Eagles DVOA 36.4 %
Packers DVOA 30.2 %

There was a much more significant gap last season - and we all saw what happened early & often in that contest

Anyone have the flight to Philly itinerary? I can't find anything yet.

These are two teams that succeed by running the ball. I think we are going to see a limited number of opportunities because the clock is going to be ticking away in this one. Efficiency is going to be key. You cannot have empty possessions in this game.