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Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 07 Jun 2021 18:17
by Yoop
everyone seems to have a opinion concerning this, thanks for sharing yours, but I beg to differ, anything left of center is on the blind side of a right hand throwing QB, and left side of center is typically called the weak side because the LT and G go man up minus a TE's help.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 08 Jun 2021 06:15
by APB
Can't say I've ever read or heard of anybody referring to the LG as the "blindside" guard until this conversation. But whatevs.

The strong/weak side point is another tangent completely and also completely irrelevant.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 08 Jun 2021 06:20
by YoHoChecko
APB wrote:
08 Jun 2021 06:15
Can't say I've ever read or heard of anybody referring to the LG as the "blindside" guard until this conversation. But whatevs.

The strong/weak side point is another tangent completely and also completely irrelevant.
I do believe it’s a term made up/coined for this conversation.

Ostensibly, I agree: a QB should be able to see someone coming right for him.

But with the number of roll outs and the amount of play action, I can see a mild case to be made that the non-throwing-hand side guard may more often be protecting a QB from interior rushers the QB doesn’t get a clean look at.

But it was more a shorthand for non-throwing-hand-side for me. So thanks for making me type out non-throwing-hand-side three times for the sake of semantics :mrgreen: :lol:

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 08 Jun 2021 07:11
by Yoop
But I didn't make this up, the left side of center is the blind side, when a R handed QB takes his drop from center his back is facing the blind side, the left side of center, simple common sense tells us that, and it's actually common knowledge as well that the weak side is the side opposite the TE lines up on.

that pertained to this conversation since we had been talking about the importance of 1 OL position versus another.

quick look on goggle produced this.

Because most are right-handed, quarterbacks turn their bodies to the right in order to survey the fields and consequently throw the ball. This means that a blindside tackle will almost certainly come from the left side of the field, as perceived by the offense.

times are changing as this conversation bares out and we have seen with naked eye ( most of us) defenses shift there best pass rushers to the weakest player on the OL, there are graphs that show right side or interior pass rush success has increased dramatically

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 08 Jun 2021 07:17
by APB
Thanks for the detailed, lengthy explanation. Not sure what prompted it but I got it. Like beyond a doubt. Totally. :aok:

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 08 Jun 2021 07:25
by Yoop
APB wrote:
08 Jun 2021 07:17
Thanks for the detailed, lengthy explanation. Not sure what prompted it but I got it. Like beyond a doubt. Totally. :aok:
your welcome, I understand that being so busy you lack the time to read conversations you tend to over look prior pages of convo dealing with the subject matter, you seemed confused so I tried to clarify a bit, glad it helped. :mrgreen:

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 22 Jul 2021 18:38
by BSA
cheeseheadTV with an article on Myers

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/the-lass- ... -myers-423

"Is Myers talented enough? Ohio State offered him a football scholarship when he was a freshman in high school. Urban Meyer, then the coach of the Buckeyes and now coaching the Jacksonville Jaguars, made the offer after watching tape of the youngster. In 2020 he was first team all Big Ten, 2nd team All American.

He’s also a leader, another requirement of the position. He was voted captain at Ohio State. And you could say he was born to play center.
His grandfather was a center. His father was a center. His brother was a center. He has a sense of loyalty, respect and tradition. He honored his father by wearing dad’s jersey number (71) throughout college, except for one game, when he wore number 50 to pay tribute to his grandfather. He continues to wear 71 for the Packers."

"On the last play of the 2020 Big Ten championship game, Myers suffered a turf toe injury. Anyone familiar with those knows how painful they can be and how long they take to heal. Writer Baird picks up the story from there:

“Myers rehabbed non-stop for the playoff semifinal against Clemson. He could not practice and only managed a couple of walk-throughs. Midway through the third quarter, after planting his left foot to redirect and pick up a block on an outside zone play, he felt a “pop.” That was the sesamoid bone in his big toe breaking in multiple places, and a tendon avulsion pulling off of the bone. Myers finished the game, then spent the next 10 days underselling the extent of the injury to Ohio State’s medical team.”

Tough kid.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 01 Aug 2021 18:44
by BSA
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"For a guy to come in as a draft pick, as a rookie & to be that comfortable...its pretty impressive"

Aaron Rodgers on Josh Myers

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 01 Aug 2021 18:57
by lupedafiasco
BSA wrote:
01 Aug 2021 18:44
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"For a guy to come in as a draft pick, as a rookie & to be that comfortable...its pretty impressive"

Aaron Rodgers on Josh Myers
Team talk at its finest. I’m high on Myers. Gotta see how he does when the pads come on and in games.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 02 Aug 2021 00:53
by Pckfn23
Except that it was an open ended question about who is standing out and Rodgers chose Myers...

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 02 Aug 2021 08:39
by paco
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Aug 2021 00:53
Except that it was an open ended question about who is standing out and Rodgers chose Myers...
And I'm pretty sure Rodgers is beyond team talk at this point.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 02 Aug 2021 10:38
by BSA
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Aug 2021 00:53
Except that it was an open ended question about who is standing out and Rodgers chose Myers...
Some posters are just miserable humans - and any hint of positivity is kryptonite for them.
Life is short, don't waste your time on miserable people - because with all of life's glorious choices available - they choose to be miserable.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 02 Aug 2021 13:07
by BSA
this quote is from The Athletic

Apparently, Josh Myers has been talking to Linsley quite a bit:

"...Linsley started at Center as a rookie, and Myers said his predecessor has been vital in getting him acclimated to a similar role.

“He has been great throughout this whole thing,” Myers said. “Anytime I’ve ever had a question for him, he’s answered it and been absolutely awesome throughout the whole thing, so we’ve been in contact for a lot of this — even pre-draft, and especially post-draft.”

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 03 Aug 2021 09:03
by YoHoChecko
Yeah, the local media is obsessed with the continuity of Ohio State centers wearing the same jersey number who know each other and are maybe even friends and so they ask him about Linsley at least two or three times every time Myers speaks with them.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 03 Aug 2021 09:22
by go pak go
YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Aug 2021 09:03
Yeah, the local media is obsessed with the continuity of Ohio State centers wearing the same jersey number who know each other and are maybe even friends and so they ask him about Linsley at least two or three times every time Myers speaks with them.
But has Corey given you Josh any pointers of how to be successful in Green Bay?

"No Corey has been a $%@# about it. He says he wants to be known as Rodgers's best Center and therefore doesn't want me to be another rookie who is calm and cool to start my career."

I mean what is Josh gonna honestly say here....

Oh. And don't forget about Randal and Amari!!!! ;)

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 03 Aug 2021 09:27
by YoHoChecko
go pak go wrote:
03 Aug 2021 09:22
Oh. And don't forget about Randal and Amari!!!!
And Cole Van Lanen? How's he look? You know he's from Green Bay, right? Has he shown you anything new about the city where you also live?

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 03 Aug 2021 09:58
by go pak go
YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Aug 2021 09:27
go pak go wrote:
03 Aug 2021 09:22
Oh. And don't forget about Randal and Amari!!!!
And Cole Van Lanen? How's he look? You know he's from Green Bay, right? Has he shown you anything new about the city where you also live?
:lol: :lol:

I kid because I know their job is actually hard.

I remember going to a TC practice a few years ago and was blown away how hard it is to actually watch practice and provide updates/insights. I am sure [mention]NCF[/mention] and [mention]BF004[/mention] can attest to that.

So I do get their job is tough. They are trying to promote the sport, teams, stories, etc. And it's this fine line of walking of sharing good stories, being analytical, and being a $%@#/honest.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 03 Aug 2021 10:21
by go pak go
p.r.i.c.k is a swear word on here? :lol:

Goodness.

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 03 Aug 2021 10:49
by BSA
go pak go wrote:
03 Aug 2021 09:22
I mean what is Josh gonna honestly say here....
Its highly unusual for a player to leave in FA and then turn around and offer tips/insights to his rookie replacement given they're playing for different teams. Its pretty awesome and since Corey had Rodgers' hands up his ass for 5 years - I'm reasonably certain he has a wealth of insight for the rookie.

more from AR here:

“We’ve had some great ones over the years that I’ve been fortunate enough to play with,” Rodgers said. “Obviously Corey Linsley for the last number of years, JC Tretter before that, Scottie Wells was a great center for us and a number of other guys that we’ve had over the years at that spot. He’s very comfortable, very comfortable with the system, comfortable in his own skin, he’s a big, big fella. He’s probably the biggest center I’ve had in front of me, but I really like the way that he’s stepped in and controlled the huddle and the calls the first four days.”

Re: Josh Myers - C - Ohio State - Round 2 - Pick 30

Posted: 03 Aug 2021 11:01
by go pak go
BSA wrote:
03 Aug 2021 10:49
go pak go wrote:
03 Aug 2021 09:22
I mean what is Josh gonna honestly say here....
Its highly unusual for a player to leave in FA and then turn around and offer tips/insights to his rookie replacement given they're playing for different teams. Its pretty awesome and since Corey had Rodgers' hands up his ass for 5 years - I'm reasonably certain he has a wealth of insight for the rookie.

more from AR here:

“We’ve had some great ones over the years that I’ve been fortunate enough to play with,” Rodgers said. “Obviously Corey Linsley for the last number of years, JC Tretter before that, Scottie Wells was a great center for us and a number of other guys that we’ve had over the years at that spot. He’s very comfortable, very comfortable with the system, comfortable in his own skin, he’s a big, big fella. He’s probably the biggest center I’ve had in front of me, but I really like the way that he’s stepped in and controlled the huddle and the calls the first four days.”
Yeah I'm pretty excited it sounds like we hit once again on a center draft pick. By far the highest draft capital we have ever spent on the spot, but well worth it.