Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 28 Nov 2021 20:32
Yeah they just gave run game nothing. The run game was all Dillon.
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Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 28 Nov 2021 20:34
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 28 Nov 2021 23:19
Rasul
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 28 Nov 2021 23:25
I’m going Rasul also.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 03:34
Tooting my own pick, the Oline that was missing two Pro Bowlers and the starting center allowed zero sacks to Von Miller, Aaron Donald and Leonard Floyd, and one sack overall in the game. Yeah, the run blocking was spotty, but did have enough push in short yardage. Overall, I didn't expect THIS good of a game.
That said. Rasul gets my vote.
A sweet pick-six along with several PDs and some hard hits vs the running game. I thought Amos gets most of the blame for the long TD, got greedy jumping a shorter route. The trio of Alexander, Stokes and Douglas is a fiiine top 3 CB group, and King and Sully aren't bad as 4th and 5th CBs and situational matchups...
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 04:13
Rasul also gets my vote.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 05:34
Yeah I think it's impossible not to pick Rasual Douglas.
Rasul Douglas.
Rasul Douglas.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 06:52
I was hoping to actually get a vote for the first time in forever with the one armed bandit but Rasul was a killer even with the dropped int. 
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 07:27
Cobby cobby cobby. You did me wrong! That muff and injury ruined this for me!
I think Rasul's got it easily this week and gets my vote. But I think Rodgers should be getting more love (though I know this is what everyone expects). Also other honorable mentions to Clark, EQ (just makes a big situation catch or 2 every week), and Gary & Barnes (big plays and Barnes led team in tackles).
I think Rasul's got it easily this week and gets my vote. But I think Rodgers should be getting more love (though I know this is what everyone expects). Also other honorable mentions to Clark, EQ (just makes a big situation catch or 2 every week), and Gary & Barnes (big plays and Barnes led team in tackles).
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 07:38
Exactly.salmar80 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2021 03:34Tooting my own pick, the Oline that was missing two Pro Bowlers and the starting center allowed zero sacks to Von Miller, Aaron Donald and Leonard Floyd, and one sack overall in the game. Yeah, the run blocking was spotty, but did have enough push in short yardage. Overall, I didn't expect THIS good of a game.
In a game they were woefully over-matched on paper, they held their own and then some. Yes, the offense schemed their pass game around the pass rush for the most part and wasn't dominating in the run game - except in gaining push on those 3rd and short runs - but I thought the O-Line performed well, WELL beyond expectations.
That said, it's Rasul for me.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 09:06
I vote Rasul as well, whats not to like about Douglas, he's big, he intimidates receivers, tackles very well, and usually sticks to receivers like he's joined at the hip, plus his team mates respect him and consider him one of the boys, just a great team player that we should find a way to resign, he's far more reliable then King.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 11:33
His name means 'messenger' in Arabic. Do with that information what you will. He definitely sent a few messages last night. 
Rasul Douglas.
Rasul Douglas.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 12:40
Lots of really great choices this week.
Rasul - He's the easy choice
AJ Dillon - Haven't looked at his stats but my guess is YPC wasn't as good as it's been. That said, he had a few nice catch and runs and the yards he got he had to get on his own.
O-line - May seem to be a bit contradictory to my statement about Dillon and hard-earned yards but I thought our patchwork o-line played well; given the circumstances. If someone would have taken Lucas Patrick I would have consider giving it to him based on who he was up against all day. Oh, and he got the crap choked out of him by Donald (hope he gets an invoice from the league for that since it should have been unsportsmanlike conduct and 15 yards for the good guys)
Kenny - He wreaked havoc all day. We've come to expect this from him, but he was active all day against a good o-line.
Barnes - I thought he played well, for who he is (read: low expectations). I recall him in coverage against Kupp and he played it beautifully. Something only Kevin King could dream of.
Rasul - He's the easy choice
AJ Dillon - Haven't looked at his stats but my guess is YPC wasn't as good as it's been. That said, he had a few nice catch and runs and the yards he got he had to get on his own.
O-line - May seem to be a bit contradictory to my statement about Dillon and hard-earned yards but I thought our patchwork o-line played well; given the circumstances. If someone would have taken Lucas Patrick I would have consider giving it to him based on who he was up against all day. Oh, and he got the crap choked out of him by Donald (hope he gets an invoice from the league for that since it should have been unsportsmanlike conduct and 15 yards for the good guys)
Kenny - He wreaked havoc all day. We've come to expect this from him, but he was active all day against a good o-line.
Barnes - I thought he played well, for who he is (read: low expectations). I recall him in coverage against Kupp and he played it beautifully. Something only Kevin King could dream of.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 17:58
From Packers.com game notes:
Aaron Rodgers disagrees with y’all’s assessment….Stepping up, up front: The Packers once again overcame injuries on the offensive line to hold one of the NFL's most formidable defensive fronts to just a single sack of Rodgers.
"The offensive line was fantastic," Rodgers said. "One phantom sack, the gift I gave my workout buddy Greg Gaines with the zero-yard sack on the scramble. I thought they did a nice job. I thought we mixed it up with the quick game, getting the ball out of my hand."
While the interior mostly handled former NFL Defensive Player of the Year Aaron Donald, the Packers turned to former undrafted free agent Yosh Nijman at left tackle after losing Elgton Jenkins to a knee injury for the season.
Nijman and right tackle Billy Turner helped keep Leonard Floyd and Von Miller in check, limiting the two edge rushers to just a pair of quarterback hits.
"I gave him a big hug after the game and told him, 'I almost forgot about that side of the line,' and that's a huge compliment because I didn't have any worries about my backside," said Rodgers of Nijman. "You're going against two likely Hall of Famers (Miller and Donald) and a stud in Floyd, who's been doing it at a high level now for half a decade. That's a tough, tough, tough job. And to step in and play as well as he did, really proud of him."
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 18:03
Nice job in pass protection, but...
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 18:06
I wasn't talking about pass protection.APB wrote: ↑29 Nov 2021 17:58From Packers.com game notes:
Aaron Rodgers disagrees with y’all’s assessment….Stepping up, up front: The Packers once again overcame injuries on the offensive line to hold one of the NFL's most formidable defensive fronts to just a single sack of Rodgers.
"The offensive line was fantastic," Rodgers said. "One phantom sack, the gift I gave my workout buddy Greg Gaines with the zero-yard sack on the scramble. I thought they did a nice job. I thought we mixed it up with the quick game, getting the ball out of my hand."
While the interior mostly handled former NFL Defensive Player of the Year Aaron Donald, the Packers turned to former undrafted free agent Yosh Nijman at left tackle after losing Elgton Jenkins to a knee injury for the season.
Nijman and right tackle Billy Turner helped keep Leonard Floyd and Von Miller in check, limiting the two edge rushers to just a pair of quarterback hits.
"I gave him a big hug after the game and told him, 'I almost forgot about that side of the line,' and that's a huge compliment because I didn't have any worries about my backside," said Rodgers of Nijman. "You're going against two likely Hall of Famers (Miller and Donald) and a stud in Floyd, who's been doing it at a high level now for half a decade. That's a tough, tough, tough job. And to step in and play as well as he did, really proud of him."
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 18:23
I was, along with the adequate run blocking, hence my original comment that started this tangent.go pak go wrote: ↑29 Nov 2021 18:06I wasn't talking about pass protection.APB wrote: ↑29 Nov 2021 17:58From Packers.com game notes:
Aaron Rodgers disagrees with y’all’s assessment….Stepping up, up front: The Packers once again overcame injuries on the offensive line to hold one of the NFL's most formidable defensive fronts to just a single sack of Rodgers.
"The offensive line was fantastic," Rodgers said. "One phantom sack, the gift I gave my workout buddy Greg Gaines with the zero-yard sack on the scramble. I thought they did a nice job. I thought we mixed it up with the quick game, getting the ball out of my hand."
While the interior mostly handled former NFL Defensive Player of the Year Aaron Donald, the Packers turned to former undrafted free agent Yosh Nijman at left tackle after losing Elgton Jenkins to a knee injury for the season.
Nijman and right tackle Billy Turner helped keep Leonard Floyd and Von Miller in check, limiting the two edge rushers to just a pair of quarterback hits.
"I gave him a big hug after the game and told him, 'I almost forgot about that side of the line,' and that's a huge compliment because I didn't have any worries about my backside," said Rodgers of Nijman. "You're going against two likely Hall of Famers (Miller and Donald) and a stud in Floyd, who's been doing it at a high level now for half a decade. That's a tough, tough, tough job. And to step in and play as well as he did, really proud of him."
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 20:56
Aaron Jones was 10 carries for 23 yards
AJ Dillon was 20 carries for 69 yards.
The stat above shows 61 of Dillon's 69 yards came after contact. That means Dillon got 8 yards on 20 carries before contact. that is 0.4 yards before contact.
I just can't give the rushing Oline an adequate grade. I think they struggled and AJ Dillon was awesome. I agree the pass protection was good and definitely deserves praise.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 21:14
In the final analysis, Rasul gets my vote.
Re: Here's Johnny!! (Ram it up your poop chute) LAR Wk12
Posted: 29 Nov 2021 21:20
Oh c’mon. You’re gonna cite yards before contact as a run blocking stat? What is the norm? What is your expectation? That RBs get 4 yds downfield before touched? I’d venture to guess a great majority of every RB stat line has a heavy lean toward yards after contact.go pak go wrote: ↑29 Nov 2021 20:56Aaron Jones was 10 carries for 23 yards
AJ Dillon was 20 carries for 69 yards.
The stat above shows 61 of Dillon's 69 yards came after contact. That means Dillon got 8 yards on 20 carries before contact. that is 0.4 yards before contact.
I just can't give the rushing Oline an adequate grade. I think they struggled and AJ Dillon was awesome. I agree the pass protection was good and definitely deserves praise.
Fact is, the RBs had a stat line of 30 carries for 92 yards. Just over 3 yds/carry. Considering they were doing a lot of obvious handoffs into stacked boxes to run down the clock in the 4th qtr, I’d say even that stat is a bit skewed.
This makeshift O-Line performed admirably considering the number of backups playing and the quality of their opponent. The national punditry agrees. Local beat writers agree. Rodgers agrees. MLF agrees.
The only person seemingly raising a stink about their performance is you. I honestly have no idea what your expectation was…?
Edit: for reference, the Rams are 3rd best defensively league wide against the run allowing 3.9 yds/att. The Packers averaged 3.1 yds/att with their 3rd string LT, 2nd string LG, 2nd string C, rookie RG, and veteran RT.
I’d personally characterize their run game performance as, at a minimum, adequate. Their pass protection exceeded expectations BY FAR. That, to me, was worthy of consideration in this weekly competition of ours. But that’s me.