Bears @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 5th, 12:00 PM CST

[Pckfn23]

[Half Empty]

Hard to argue with some of your facts/statements. However, do you not think today's game might have given some of us a pretty good reason to whine and bitch (I figure that's your way of saying expression our dissatisfaction)?

Some of us don’t like losing to the bears

Please name a single name that does?

Apparently, wizard 87

[go pak go]

the way our defense ended this game, the way Lafleuer blew clock management again, almost seems like the goal was to play Philly, and if Watson has another miraculous recovery and plays against them it would seem Lafleur intended to lose to the Bears, this had to be one of the worst coached games I've seen in years, there is no valid excuse or reason for basically giving Chicago that last pass play so they could get close to kick a winning FG, if that wasn't on purpose someone should lose there job, Lafluer is known for that stuff with Barry, and if he told Hafley to do that he's on my hot seat.

I think they just got it really, really wrong.

The way they played defense, it essentially appears they thought there wouldn't be enough time to get into FG range, run up and spike it to do a FG attempt. That is the only plausible explanation I can see.

I believe the magic number is under 12 seconds they would have been right in that assumption but I believe the actual game clock was at 15 seconds.

[go pak go]

As for Watson. This is terrible. I hate reading the "additional damage"

I believe he will definitely be a PUP player at the least. But frankly I always get afraid of speed players and major injuries because you wonder if they will ever get their speed back.

[APB]

the way our defense ended this game, the way Lafleuer blew clock management again, almost seems like the goal was to play Philly, and if Watson has another miraculous recovery and plays against them it would seem Lafleur intended to lose to the Bears, this had to be one of the worst coached games I've seen in years, there is no valid excuse or reason for basically giving Chicago that last pass play so they could get close to kick a winning FG, if that wasn't on purpose someone should lose there job, Lafluer is known for that stuff with Barry, and if he told Hafley to do that he's on my hot seat.

I think they just got it really, really wrong.

The way they played defense, it essentially appears they thought there wouldn't be enough time to get into FG range, run up and spike it to do a FG attempt. That is the only plausible explanation I can see.

I believe the magic number is under 12 seconds they would have been right in that assumption but I believe the actual game clock was at 15 seconds.

MLF giving away a meaningless victory yesterday took the Bears from a top 5 draft spot to # 9, I believe.

The Packers are clearly playing the long game.

Edit: they're slotted at #10
#winning

[Pckfn23]

the way our defense ended this game, the way Lafleuer blew clock management again, almost seems like the goal was to play Philly, and if Watson has another miraculous recovery and plays against them it would seem Lafleur intended to lose to the Bears, this had to be one of the worst coached games I've seen in years, there is no valid excuse or reason for basically giving Chicago that last pass play so they could get close to kick a winning FG, if that wasn't on purpose someone should lose there job, Lafluer is known for that stuff with Barry, and if he told Hafley to do that he's on my hot seat.

I think they just got it really, really wrong.

The way they played defense, it essentially appears they thought there wouldn't be enough time to get into FG range, run up and spike it to do a FG attempt. That is the only plausible explanation I can see.

I believe the magic number is under 12 seconds they would have been right in that assumption but I believe the actual game clock was at 15 seconds.

MLF giving away a meaningless victory yesterday took the Bears from a top 5 draft spot to # 9, I believe.

The Packers are clearly playing the long game.

It did ALMOST seem like they gave the Bears the win.

[go pak go]

Frankly it is kind of sad how we all laughed on how Matt Eberflus handled the final 30 seconds in the Thanksgiving game. What the Packers coaching staff did against the Bears in their final minute was worse than the gaff the Bears made vs the Lions.

[APB]

Frankly it is kind of sad how we all laughed on how Matt Eberflus handled the final 30 seconds in the Thanksgiving game. What the Packers coaching staff did against the Bears in their final minute was worse than the gaff the Bears made vs the Lions.

I saw a tweet earlier that essentially said "the Packers, with the youngest, most inexperienced roster in the league can ill afford rookie level mistakes from their coaching staff."

True statement.

[Cdragon]

Frankly it is kind of sad how we all laughed on how Matt Eberflus handled the final 30 seconds in the Thanksgiving game. What the Packers coaching staff did against the Bears in their final minute was worse than the gaff the Bears made vs the Lions.

I saw a tweet earlier that essentially said "the Packers, with the youngest, most inexperienced roster in the league can ill afford rookie level mistakes from their coaching staff."

True statement.

This was definitely the time to keep the O out there faking the snap and stopping the clock at a second left on the play clock.

[wallyuwl]

MLF giving away a meaningless victory yesterday took the Bears from a top 5 draft spot to # 9, I believe.

The Packers are clearly playing the long game.

Edit: they're slotted at #10
#winning

MLF playing 5D chess

[wallyuwl]

Frankly it is kind of sad how we all laughed on how Matt Eberflus handled the final 30 seconds in the Thanksgiving game. What the Packers coaching staff did against the Bears in their final minute was worse than the gaff the Bears made vs the Lions.

yes

[Yoop]

I still doubt that we brought in Jacobs to be a run first offense, IMO it turned into that with the injury to Love, and we were forced to rely on the run more, typically Matt uses the starters sparingly in PS games, and we tend to start slow on offense grooming the pass schemes, that all took a back seat this season, and Love never really seemed to lock in chemistry with our receivers, often throwing passes harder to catch than his norm late last year, plenty of blame to throw around, while we ran the ball much better, the pass game declined.

minus the insanity of the last play against the Bears, Hafleys defense is vastly better than we had with Barry in the past, we still need a couple players, but the future looks much better.

youngest team in the league, too often we played like it against the better talent, and the coaching didn't help.


we need to put our best effort forth against Philly, I wouldn't be shocked if we did either.

[musclestang]

MLF giving away a meaningless victory yesterday took the Bears from a top 5 draft spot to # 9, I believe.

The Packers are clearly playing the long game.

Edit: they're slotted at #10
#winning

You know that has actually crossed my mind. Sad thing is, I can kind of legitimately rationalize it when I go over the end of that game and the last play. It's the only answer that makes sense LOL

I know he's smarter than me when it comes to this game, so that's what I'm going with. Intentional. it all makes sense today.

[lupedafiasco]

The issue I have with this game is not that we lost but how we lost. If the team is a reflection of its HC it only makes sense that this team commits such stupid turnovers and penalties. There is a clear lack of attention to detail in all 3 phases. That said defense seems to be the best coached of the 3.

I mean to botch the clock management so hard at the end of the game was insane to me from both the offense and defense. From making a call on 3rd down, you dont get the 1st, you run down half the clokc, then take a TO, just to kick a go ahead FG makes no $%@# sense. You either:
A) Run a play on 4th down knowing that if you run it on 3rd what you are going to do, so if you get it cool... if not you have all 3 timeouts to get a stop.
B) You run your FG team out there and kick it with a few seconds left to win the game. If you miss you still have 3 TOs.

Instead you did the most nonsensical thing. Then on defense you run prevent to set up an easy FG and you go on the podium and say you were caught offguard... Embarassing from a 6th year HC.

Playing Watson was dumb. Coming off an injury and playing him with a knee brace. Just leave him out of this one. He has much more value in the playoffs than some rivalry game. This is a failuire from the top down on the organization that someone didnt step in at any level and say it isnt smart to play Watson in this one.

The STs doesnt know where their punt is supposed to go. The tackled like crap all game giving up big returns. You LS again is snapping like &%$@. Lord knows why this team has faith in Orzech still.

Offensively this team continues to turn the ball over. We give the ball away 1.1 times per game. The interceptions from Love are bad but its the fumbles to me that are damning. That is lack of attention to detail and discipline. We are also at 1.1 fumbles per game. Infuriating.

Penalties! How is it that Enagbare commits that penalty?! That is lack of attention to detail and discipline.

This whole team every week just comes out and looks like they dont know what they are doing on the field. Love's inaccuracy. Ok fine. Committing penalties, fumbling, and not knowing how to manage the damn game clock should not be happening on any team wanting to win playoff games. Period and end of story.

[Pckfn23]

Again, week 16 seems like a decade ago.

[APB]

The issue I have with this game is...

[lupedafiasco]

The issue I have with this game is...

But do you disagree?

[APB]

The issue I have with this game is...

But do you disagree?

I do agree, actually, on everything but the Watson thing. None of us are privy to the medical side of things and if they’re signed off on him playing, so be it. &%$@ happens.

I choose to pursue my fandom while I still can. When the time comes, whether it follows elimination this weekend or a Super Bowl title in a few weeks, I’ll settle into the coulda, woulda, shoulda scenarios. Until then, I just want to enjoy whatever ride is left.

[Papa John]

Bunch of responses directed at me. Don't have time to address them individually. So I will just say, APB, 23 (and anyone else). If I didn't think we were so close, I wouldn't give a &%$@. That's the part that is so maddening. I believe that we have a framework for success in place. Matt LaFleur has worked day and night to implement a dynamic offensive system, and he hired a new DC who, so far, has demonstrated himself to be competent enough (which is saying a lot for this organization). And it could very well be all for naught due to continued discipline-related issues that plague this team. It's like an ultra-imaginative writer who can never get a book published because he doesn't take the time to use proper punctuation. Slightly flawed analogy, but you get the point. Why would you allow a lapse in the basics to ruin what you've worked so hard to create?

[Pckfn23]

Bunch of responses directed at me. Don't have time to address them individually. So I will just say, APB, 23 (and anyone else). If I didn't think we were so close, I wouldn't give a &%$@. That's the part that is so maddening. I believe that we have a framework for success in place. Matt LaFleur has worked day and night to implement a dynamic offensive system, and he hired a new DC who, so far, has demonstrated himself to be competent enough (which is saying a lot for this organization). And it could very well be all for naught due to continued discipline-related issues that plague this team. It's like an ultra-imaginative writer who can never get a book published because he doesn't take the time to use proper punctuation. Slightly flawed analogy, but you get the point. Why would you allow a lapse in the basics to ruin what you've worked so hard to create?

I do not believe anyone would disagree with these words.