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Probably?"You lose another one and you might as well say we're probably out."
Agreed. Definitely was a winnable game.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 00:11What is there to "get?" You want to believe that Dallas is an inferior team so it makes the Packers look worse? Why? How was Dallas this inferior team? We played a good Dallas team and beat them. We just played a good Tennessee team and lost. We aren't anywhere near consistent or playing up to potential each week.
No one based in reality does.paco wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022 23:26Gutey and MLF just got extensions last offseason. They aren't going anywhere. And I don't buy the throwing the games either.Pugger wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022 23:23If he purposely plays like crap other GMs may conclude his best days are behind him and will decide to go with a younger QB plus not get saddled with that salary. If word gets out he is throwing games his legacy is in ruins. Or he gets his HC and/ or GM fired and at this stage of his career has to start over with a new staff.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022 22:40
I’ve been saying for 4 weeks now I believe he is throwing games. He knows this is a bad coach and GM. Best thing to do is to get them fired or he goes somewhere with less &%$@ decision makers.
I truly believe we'll end up below .500 this year. I doubt Gute or MLF are going anywhere no matter what happens. This offseason Rodgers will have to decide to either return in 2023, ask for trade or hang up his cleats.
I think the theory of Rodgers intentionally throwing games as early as September makes more sense than the recently extended GM and HC keeping their job next year.BF004 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 06:46No one based in reality does.paco wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022 23:26Gutey and MLF just got extensions last offseason. They aren't going anywhere. And I don't buy the throwing the games either.Pugger wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022 23:23
If he purposely plays like crap other GMs may conclude his best days are behind him and will decide to go with a younger QB plus not get saddled with that salary. If word gets out he is throwing games his legacy is in ruins. Or he gets his HC and/ or GM fired and at this stage of his career has to start over with a new staff.
I truly believe we'll end up below .500 this year. I doubt Gute or MLF are going anywhere no matter what happens. This offseason Rodgers will have to decide to either return in 2023, ask for trade or hang up his cleats.
I thought our trenches played well enough to win. Clark showed back up yesterday and TJ Slayton / Jarron Reed were wreaking havoc in spots. Again I thought Rodgers was protected well. Run game had its moments. That is a legit run defense.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:08this game centers on blocking and tackling as Lombardi said many years ago, we did pretty well limiting Henry, it required 8 or more up front to do so, left us open to PA passes, and our coverage was poor, again up against a stout DL our OL becomes inconsistent, can't count on the run, or pass pro, Rodgers didn't have a good game, but he wasn't the reason we lost, we lost this game in the trenches, our DL got pushed around, and our OL has struggled all year
if that where true this team would have imploded, we'd be seeing players quitting, maybe we have, and I'am just not seeing it, He's had a few poor passes, but he has tried to rally the players, cheers players on when they do well, doesn't show any quit, like everything else concerning the team this year, he's also been inconsistent, it's like we have a inconsistency disease this year.
Yes..........the 42 million dollar quarterback showed up fantastically again.go pak go wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:20I thought our trenches played well enough to win. Clark showed back up yesterday and TJ Slayton / Jarron Reed were wreaking havoc in spots. Again I thought Rodgers was protected well. Run game had its moments. That is a legit run defense.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:08this game centers on blocking and tackling as Lombardi said many years ago, we did pretty well limiting Henry, it required 8 or more up front to do so, left us open to PA passes, and our coverage was poor, again up against a stout DL our OL becomes inconsistent, can't count on the run, or pass pro, Rodgers didn't have a good game, but he wasn't the reason we lost, we lost this game in the trenches, our DL got pushed around, and our OL has struggled all year
I think the game came down to playing off coverage on 3rd and long, Tannehill not missing when it seemed Barry depended on it, a bullsh*t drive in the 2nd half to put the Titans at 20 points, and Rodgers missing some key throws in the 4th quarter.
But of course, none of this entire post matters. The only thing that will trigger people is me pointing out the missed throws to Watkins and Lazard.
how can you play man when you have 8 and often 9 men in the box, our DT's got pushed around, so we needed both ILB's and Amos, Savage and even Ford up near the LOS most of the game.go pak go wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:20I thought our trenches played well enough to win. Clark showed back up yesterday and TJ Slayton / Jarron Reed were wreaking havoc in spots. Again I thought Rodgers was protected well. Run game had its moments. That is a legit run defense.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:08this game centers on blocking and tackling as Lombardi said many years ago, we did pretty well limiting Henry, it required 8 or more up front to do so, left us open to PA passes, and our coverage was poor, again up against a stout DL our OL becomes inconsistent, can't count on the run, or pass pro, Rodgers didn't have a good game, but he wasn't the reason we lost, we lost this game in the trenches, our DL got pushed around, and our OL has struggled all year
I think the game came down to playing off coverage on 3rd and long, Tannehill not missing when it seemed Barry depended on it, a bullsh*t drive in the 2nd half to put the Titans at 20 points, and Rodgers missing some key throws in the 4th quarter.
But of course, none of this entire post matters. The only thing that will trigger people is me pointing out the missed throws to Watkins and Lazard.
come on Ringo, rarely where receivers open, you and others over focus on a couple missed passes, and neglect the poor blocking, and the 9 man boxes, thats not a Rodgers problem, most of Rodgers passes where to covered receivers.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:23Yes..........the 42 million dollar quarterback showed up fantastically again.go pak go wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:20I thought our trenches played well enough to win. Clark showed back up yesterday and TJ Slayton / Jarron Reed were wreaking havoc in spots. Again I thought Rodgers was protected well. Run game had its moments. That is a legit run defense.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:08this game centers on blocking and tackling as Lombardi said many years ago, we did pretty well limiting Henry, it required 8 or more up front to do so, left us open to PA passes, and our coverage was poor, again up against a stout DL our OL becomes inconsistent, can't count on the run, or pass pro, Rodgers didn't have a good game, but he wasn't the reason we lost, we lost this game in the trenches, our DL got pushed around, and our OL has struggled all year
I think the game came down to playing off coverage on 3rd and long, Tannehill not missing when it seemed Barry depended on it, a bullsh*t drive in the 2nd half to put the Titans at 20 points, and Rodgers missing some key throws in the 4th quarter.
But of course, none of this entire post matters. The only thing that will trigger people is me pointing out the missed throws to Watkins and Lazard.
Hey ......... check this out.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:31come on Ringo, rarely where receivers open, you and others over focus on a couple missed passes, and neglect the poor blocking, and the 9 man boxes, thats not a Rodgers problem, most of Rodgers passes where to covered receivers.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:23Yes..........the 42 million dollar quarterback showed up fantastically again.go pak go wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:20
I thought our trenches played well enough to win. Clark showed back up yesterday and TJ Slayton / Jarron Reed were wreaking havoc in spots. Again I thought Rodgers was protected well. Run game had its moments. That is a legit run defense.
I think the game came down to playing off coverage on 3rd and long, Tannehill not missing when it seemed Barry depended on it, a bullsh*t drive in the 2nd half to put the Titans at 20 points, and Rodgers missing some key throws in the 4th quarter.
But of course, none of this entire post matters. The only thing that will trigger people is me pointing out the missed throws to Watkins and Lazard.
first. it's true Rodgers isn't as consistent as he normally has been, but all QB's miss receivers, last night we saw a couple, but Tenn. had very good coverage most of the game.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:31The Packers have come back down to earth, after a long period of supremacy. No shame in that. It is frustrating to the players and to the fan base. But we’ve had 30 years of very good football.
To me, there are two issues. First, Packers are NOT playing up to the talent level of the team. Second, #12 is not at all consistent any more. Both of those issues need to be resolved.
For the talent level, coaching should adapt. Adaptation is a part of the league. And we are a couple of years behind in that. I think primarily of the D. It is not the risk-taking, pressure-making D that I hoped for when we hired Barry. If we weren’t going to go in that direction, whey didn’t we just keep Capers!
For Rodgers, I wish I knew more if his troubles were mostly about his thumb or not. But I suspect it’s more mental. His errant throws are stacking up. Most of that might be about the thumb. But it’s clear that he misses many opportunities that he used to exploit. Yeah, he suffers from inexperienced WRs too. No doubt. But the “reigning MVP” should be able to alleviate some of that and he isn’t. There’s not a lot wrong with playing like you’re a middle of the pack QB. But everybody, including the Packers and #12, expect more.
The old adage says that it’s better to let go of a player when it’s too early than to do it when it’s too late. I’m sure he could succeed some more with another team and a change of scenery. Favre did. But the Pack needs to move on.
"Supremacy" is defined as "the state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status."Scott4Pack wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 07:31The Packers have come back down to earth, after a long period of supremacy. No shame in that. It is frustrating to the players and to the fan base. But we’ve had 30 years of very good football.
The Packers took advantage of an opportunities the Cowboys gave them. The Cowboys didn't play poorly in the 4th quarter, but they didn't play well. On the other hand the Packers played very well. A 195 game streak doesn't get broke without a little from both sides. And the Titans didn't hand us any gifts? What about the 2nd and 1 INT? The difference between Sunday and Thursday was the Packers, plain and simple. We did not do enough to win the game in the 2nd half. A lot of missed opportunities.Drj820 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 03:54What is to get is that the cowboys had the packers beat too. Up 14 in the 4th. Dak and McCarthy basically gifted us the chance to get back in the game through their own stupidity. They out stupided us and we were able to win. Titans are well coached. They did nothing to hand us any gifts.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022 00:11What is there to "get?" You want to believe that Dallas is an inferior team so it makes the Packers look worse? Why? How was Dallas this inferior team? We played a good Dallas team and beat them. We just played a good Tennessee team and lost. We aren't anywhere near consistent or playing up to potential each week.