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Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 02 Jan 2023 17:41
by BSA
^Thx for the tweets

That Aaron Jones cut- up from Baldy is freaking spectacular ! What a blast for those guys clearing the way - and Baldy said it best:

"nuthin fancy, they just blocked their asses off and vikings couldn't do anything about it"

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 02 Jan 2023 17:56
by Pckfn23

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 02 Jan 2023 18:07
by Yoop
play action right, it's nit picky to say he should have stopped, reset, and thrown back all the way across the field.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 02 Jan 2023 18:11
by Pckfn23
No one knows what you are referencing...

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 07:25
by go pak go
Starts making you question your coaching staff when they are hesitant replacing the worst returner in Packers history (and that says something) with the best returner in the NFL.

Like do they ever practice kick returns? How could they not see this sooner?

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 07:36
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Jan 2023 18:11
No one knows what you are referencing...


Watson could have moon walked in, clip on previous page

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 07:49
by lupedafiasco
go pak go wrote:
03 Jan 2023 07:25
Starts making you question your coaching staff when they are hesitant replacing the worst returner in Packers history (and that says something) with the best returner in the NFL.

Like do they ever practice kick returns? How could they not see this sooner?
They’re slow to react to everything in terms of personnel. There are plenty of examples over the years. I mean look at the Oline this year. They were beat up for sure but they had much better options than what they were running out there week after week.

Judging that they still get punts blocked I would bet they don’t spend that much time on it.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 08:16
by BF004
Pckfn23 wrote:
02 Jan 2023 17:56
He had the big 3rd and 1 stuff at the goaline.

2 of maybe the 3 biggest plays from there D were basically all on him.


He should maybe be the real Here's Johnny winner if he was an option.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 09:34
by go pak go
lupedafiasco wrote:
03 Jan 2023 07:49
go pak go wrote:
03 Jan 2023 07:25
Starts making you question your coaching staff when they are hesitant replacing the worst returner in Packers history (and that says something) with the best returner in the NFL.

Like do they ever practice kick returns? How could they not see this sooner?
They’re slow to react to everything in terms of personnel. There are plenty of examples over the years. I mean look at the Oline this year. They were beat up for sure but they had much better options than what they were running out there week after week.

Judging that they still get punts blocked I would bet they don’t spend that much time on it.
It's their largest weakness. The defensive line has played lights out ever since Dean Lowry went out with injury. And it's because of the elite play of Slaton and Wyatt.

There is another position I am seeing this too. But if they won't pull 94 or 8....we certainly know they aren't pulling 12.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 09:48
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:34
lupedafiasco wrote:
03 Jan 2023 07:49
go pak go wrote:
03 Jan 2023 07:25
Starts making you question your coaching staff when they are hesitant replacing the worst returner in Packers history (and that says something) with the best returner in the NFL.

Like do they ever practice kick returns? How could they not see this sooner?
They’re slow to react to everything in terms of personnel. There are plenty of examples over the years. I mean look at the Oline this year. They were beat up for sure but they had much better options than what they were running out there week after week.

Judging that they still get punts blocked I would bet they don’t spend that much time on it.
It's their largest weakness. The defensive line has played lights out ever since Dean Lowry went out with injury. And it's because of the elite play of Slaton and Wyatt.

There is another position I am seeing this too. But if they won't pull 94 or 8....we certainly know they aren't pulling 12.
again I keep asking, but 23 is so intent on defending himself he wont bother to look it up ( I assume he's a paid up member to PFF) :lol: I been trying, what is our % of snaps using base 3-4 fronts, to me thats the biggest reason our DL has improved, specially stopping the run.

why anyone is convinced Love would out play Rodgers, he threw a couple passes in mop up and both where off target, both where rushed throws minus pressure to boot, there not pulling 12 because he is still the best option.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 09:55
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:48
go pak go wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:34
lupedafiasco wrote:
03 Jan 2023 07:49


They’re slow to react to everything in terms of personnel. There are plenty of examples over the years. I mean look at the Oline this year. They were beat up for sure but they had much better options than what they were running out there week after week.

Judging that they still get punts blocked I would bet they don’t spend that much time on it.
It's their largest weakness. The defensive line has played lights out ever since Dean Lowry went out with injury. And it's because of the elite play of Slaton and Wyatt.

There is another position I am seeing this too. But if they won't pull 94 or 8....we certainly know they aren't pulling 12.
again I keep asking, but 23 is so intent on defending himself he wont bother to look it up ( I assume he's a paid up member to PFF) :lol: I been trying, what is our % of snaps using base 3-4 fronts, to me thats the biggest reason our DL has improved, specially stopping the run.
What are you talking about and why are you dragging me into something that has nothing to do with me?

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 10:01
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:55
Yoop wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:48
go pak go wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:34


It's their largest weakness. The defensive line has played lights out ever since Dean Lowry went out with injury. And it's because of the elite play of Slaton and Wyatt.

There is another position I am seeing this too. But if they won't pull 94 or 8....we certainly know they aren't pulling 12.
again I keep asking, but 23 is so intent on defending himself he wont bother to look it up ( I assume he's a paid up member to PFF) :lol: I been trying, what is our % of snaps using base 3-4 fronts, to me thats the biggest reason our DL has improved, specially stopping the run.
What are you talking about and why are you dragging me into something that has nothing to do with me?
Because your the guy that usually brings this type info, did you see the smiley, your acting offended when actually it was a compliment, I brought it up in a other post because I noticed we seemed to play more base front.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 10:04
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote:
03 Jan 2023 10:01
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:55
Yoop wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:48


again I keep asking, but 23 is so intent on defending himself he wont bother to look it up ( I assume he's a paid up member to PFF) :lol: I been trying, what is our % of snaps using base 3-4 fronts, to me thats the biggest reason our DL has improved, specially stopping the run.
What are you talking about and why are you dragging me into something that has nothing to do with me?
Because your the guy that usually brings this type info, did you see the smiley, your acting offended when actually it was a compliment, I brought it up in a other post because I noticed we seemed to play more base front.
Bring what information? You haven't asked me for anything...

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 10:43
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Jan 2023 10:04
Yoop wrote:
03 Jan 2023 10:01
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Jan 2023 09:55

What are you talking about and why are you dragging me into something that has nothing to do with me?
Because your the guy that usually brings this type info, did you see the smiley, your acting offended when actually it was a compliment, I brought it up in a other post because I noticed we seemed to play more base front.
Bring what information? You haven't asked me for anything...
yes I have, yesterday and again just now above.

what is our % of snaps using base 3-4

I was impressed with Barry realizing to better stop the run we need to establish superiority in the trenches, he started the game in a 30 front, I didn't pay attention of how much we did that after the goal line stand though and wonders how much we did it.

Detroit will try and get there run game going, hoping Barry continues a heavy front to stop that.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 11:05
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote:
03 Jan 2023 10:43
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Jan 2023 10:04
Yoop wrote:
03 Jan 2023 10:01


Because your the guy that usually brings this type info, did you see the smiley, your acting offended when actually it was a compliment, I brought it up in a other post because I noticed we seemed to play more base front.
Bring what information? You haven't asked me for anything...
yes I have, yesterday and again just now above.

what is our % of snaps using base 3-4

I was impressed with Barry realizing to better stop the run we need to establish superiority in the trenches, he started the game in a 30 front, I didn't pay attention of how much we did that after the goal line stand though and wonders how much we did it.

Detroit will try and get there run game going, hoping Barry continues a heavy front to stop that.
When did you ask me yesterday? Where did you ask me today? I see something in the Week 17 thread this morning buried in a comment that had NOTHING to do with this game. Maybe just flat out ask in the appropriate thread next time and have some patience...

Now, defensive personnel packages aren't something that is readily available information during the season, especially this soon in the week. To start out the game the Vikings came out in 21/12 personnel the first 2 plays which we appropriately responded to with base. The 3rd play they spread it out and we were either in Nickel or Dime. Then the next 3 plays were on the 1, so jumbo. The next 2 plays with 11 which we went Nickel and then empty to which we went Dime. The next series they started out with 12 and we were in 33 Nickel, then they went to 11 and we went to our traditional 24 Nickel., 3rd down they were empty and we were in dime. 4th down with the pick 6 they were in 11 personnel and we were in 24 nickel.

Given the first 4 drives, I would be hard pressed to say we were in base any more this game than we have been all year.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 16:05
by BSA
Not sure if this was posted before - but a couple of awesome plays by TJ Slaton vs the vikes on the goal line stand
TJ also got a hand on a Kirk pass, deflecting it just enough to allow the Amos INT

TJ was a 2021 5th rounder and is coming into his own at just the right moment

https://youtu.be/XEdjU9pVySc

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 18:07
by Pckfn23

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 18:21
by Scott4Pack
Early in the game, I was dissing MLF because I thought he was passing too much. But I think maybe I need to look at it differently. Maybe he’s really reading the D to take what is given in the first, getting a lead, and THEN doing more running. It’s almost inconsequential if there isn’t a run/pass balance early in the game, just as long as we can establish a lead and then run to wear down the D and use clock.

Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 20:20
by Drj820
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Re: Vikings @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Jan. 1st, 3:25 PM CST

Posted: 03 Jan 2023 20:44
by Yoop
Drj820 wrote:
03 Jan 2023 20:20
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thing is prior to Jeffersons hat attack on the ref, Alexander shoved him in the back, so if they fine Jefferson which I expect they will do, they might ask for some molla from Alex too :lol: