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Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

08 Feb 2024 17:17

Here are some more bodies to consider.

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I would puke if that's how it went with the 1st 3 picks. Just awful.

No safety day 1 period. Just not worth the pick. Paul is really sloppy. GB wouldn't take him anyway.

Kinchens is a pretty "boom or bust" pick. You could end up with a Collins or with a Savage. I am not opposed, but the risk is pretty big. If we take him, we should do it with our Round 2 pick, lower the value of the investment to offset some of that riskiness.

I do like TJ Tampa a lot, and would be over-the-moon if we can get Corrum.

Patrick Paul looks to me like a T-only. I don't really love the value of that for us. If we wanted to play him, we would have to at a minimum probably move Tom inside. Our bigger needs are RG and C. Assuming we do not address either of those by moving Tom inside, I think our Day 1 and 2 OL should focus on guys who can play inside.

Gimme!!

Labrev wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 12:09

Gimme!!

Never have I ever watched a guy play high school basketball and decided that means he should play CB or S for my favorite NFL team.

I like Cooper just fine from what I know.

The ubiquity of his high school basketball highlights is baffling internet behavior

He got no left hand

God damn that boy is putting kids on posters.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 17:26

Labrev wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 12:09

Gimme!!

Never have I ever watched a guy play high school basketball and decided that means he should play CB or S for my favorite NFL team.

I like Cooper just fine from what I know.

The ubiquity of his high school basketball highlights is baffling internet behavior

Right. Esp when he's smoking kids that aren't even varsity level in most areas. I like the prospect and it's cool he can dunk but....yawn

Wow you guys must really be the life of the party.

Labrev wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 21:24

Wow you guys must really be the life of the party.

Never have I ever watched a forum member post and decided that means they should be at my favorite party.

I like some of you just fine from what I know.

The ubiquity of posting histories is baffling internet behavior.

Esp when most forum members aren’t even posting at a footballs future level. I like some of the posters and they can meme but…. Fart

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 17:26

Labrev wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 12:09

Gimme!!

Never have I ever watched a guy play high school basketball and decided that means he should play CB or S for my favorite NFL team.

I like Cooper just fine from what I know.

The ubiquity of his high school basketball highlights is baffling internet behavior

I bet a GM doesn't think like this, Basketball shows agility, ability to gain leverage in small spaces, high point ability, over all athletic ability.

so many teams looking for a (star) slot CB/safety, if Dejean does well at the combine he wont even be available when we pick.

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Feb 2024 17:59

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

08 Feb 2024 17:17

Here are some more bodies to consider.

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So you just gonna keep posting your same mock draft over and over?

There are some commonalities, for sure. I guess that's how I'm finding the guys that I really have a shine over. Corum is one of those guys.

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 06:56

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

08 Feb 2024 17:17

Here are some more bodies to consider.

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I would puke if that's how it went with the 1st 3 picks. Just awful.

No safety day 1 period. Just not worth the pick. Paul is really sloppy. GB wouldn't take him anyway.

Okay. How do you feel about it otherwise?
;-)

That's why it's a mock. I don't put hours of tape study into this. I'm just a guy who remembers a few things that the Pack like (i.e. versatile OLinement who can play numerous spots, WRs that are typically 6' and good girth, etc.).

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024 13:05

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Feb 2024 17:59

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

08 Feb 2024 17:17

Here are some more bodies to consider.

image.png

So you just gonna keep posting your same mock draft over and over?

There are some commonalities, for sure. I guess that's how I'm finding the guys that I really have a shine over. Corum is one of those guys.

Oh it was more than commonalities. Your two mock drafts were literally the same. Every player. Every Pick. The exact same.

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2024 13:07

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

09 Feb 2024 06:56

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

08 Feb 2024 17:17

Here are some more bodies to consider.

image.png

I would puke if that's how it went with the 1st 3 picks. Just awful.

No safety day 1 period. Just not worth the pick. Paul is really sloppy. GB wouldn't take him anyway.

Okay. How do you feel about it otherwise?
;-)

That's why it's a mock. I don't put hours of tape study into this. I'm just a guy who remembers a few things that the Pack like (i.e. versatile OLinement who can play numerous spots, WRs that are typically 6' and good girth, etc.).

I like Corum alot. He fits want GB does, is a worker and high character guy. Nobody knows the fall of Smith. His 1st year in college he was looking like a top 10 pick. Since then he has been bad to the point of losing snaps. The body and athletic traits are there. I'm fine with a day 3 flyer. All the day 3 picks are fine

The 2 picks I really don't like are Kinchens and Paul. Paul will not be a Packer. He won't fit their mold.

I have no interest in reaching for a safety at 25. Yes some are saying Kinchens could bust or be the next Collins. That's a stretch for me. If he is draft by us I hope he is Collins but I really do want any of these safeties round 1.

I do think that the Pack will grab a FA Safety this year.

1. There are some legit good ones likely to be available.
2. Team expectations for 2024 are the highest (Super Bowl) and legitimate.
3. We need a strong backend to make that possible or even likely.
4. We don't have that with our current roster.
5. Guty already expressed that we should be able to find a FA or two. We have the cap space.

So, my thinking is that Guty signs a Safety in the FA period before the draft so that his draft choices are informed by that upgrade. I think that will motivate him to work in FA. And if he ends up with a little less urgency in his mind, maybe he picks a mid-grade FA Safety or finds what is left over after the draft.

Any chance he makes a trade for somebody? Not his way of doing things. But maybe this year will be different.

Is EDGE still on the table in Round 1? I think it may be:

--> We lost Enagbare. He is probably out for most of next year. So we lose one of our pass-rush specialists.
--> Even if we bring Smith back, his value is mainly what he brings against the run.
--> LVN was a very raw prospect. He looked good as a rookie, but may not be a full-time starter yet.
--> Gary is not elite (yet). He grades out at 80.0 on PFF, right on the line of above-average and good. He ran out of gas down the stretch. It may be a conditioning issue (didn't play a full year last year). We have reason to believe he can be elite, but not that he is, right now.
--> All that leaves us with is Brenton Cox, who might be a player, but who knows? Jonathan Garvin was a nice raw athletic talent, but it never worked out with him.

I see room for another EDGE, even if we bring back Smith, namely one a dynamic pass-rush specialist like Latu. If we do not bring him back, it is definitely a need.

I don't think DL is, because we already struggle apportioning reps between Clark, Slaton, Brooks, and Wyatt. Wooden could also be taking a step.

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2024 13:02

I do think that the Pack will grab a FA Safety this year.

1. There are some legit good ones likely to be available.
2. Team expectations for 2024 are the highest (Super Bowl) and legitimate.
3. We need a strong backend to make that possible or even likely.
4. We don't have that with our current roster.
5. Guty already expressed that we should be able to find a FA or two. We have the cap space.

So, my thinking is that Guty signs a Safety in the FA period before the draft so that his draft choices are informed by that upgrade. I think that will motivate him to work in FA. And if he ends up with a little less urgency in his mind, maybe he picks a mid-grade FA Safety or finds what is left over after the draft.

Any chance he makes a trade for somebody? Not his way of doing things. But maybe this year will be different.

From what I hear this draft class is not very strong at safety so signing a FA makes sense.

Pugger wrote: ↑

12 Feb 2024 09:37

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2024 13:02

I do think that the Pack will grab a FA Safety this year.

1. There are some legit good ones likely to be available.
2. Team expectations for 2024 are the highest (Super Bowl) and legitimate.
3. We need a strong backend to make that possible or even likely.
4. We don't have that with our current roster.
5. Guty already expressed that we should be able to find a FA or two. We have the cap space.

So, my thinking is that Guty signs a Safety in the FA period before the draft so that his draft choices are informed by that upgrade. I think that will motivate him to work in FA. And if he ends up with a little less urgency in his mind, maybe he picks a mid-grade FA Safety or finds what is left over after the draft.

Any chance he makes a trade for somebody? Not his way of doing things. But maybe this year will be different.

From what I hear this draft class is not very strong at safety so signing a FA makes sense.

What I hear is that there isn't a first round Safety worth picking. But there are definitely some guys out there for the picking. Whether there is a strong Safety group to be drafted or none, I think Guty will get a FA. That's a position where you want a veteran leader who is either strong in/near the box or ranges the back end very well, or both. I think we get one this year.

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2024 13:02

I do think that the Pack will grab a FA Safety this year.

1. There are some legit good ones likely to be available.
2. Team expectations for 2024 are the highest (Super Bowl) and legitimate.
3. We need a strong backend to make that possible or even likely.
4. We don't have that with our current roster.
5. Guty already expressed that we should be able to find a FA or two. We have the cap space.

So, my thinking is that Guty signs a Safety in the FA period before the draft so that his draft choices are informed by that upgrade. I think that will motivate him to work in FA. And if he ends up with a little less urgency in his mind, maybe he picks a mid-grade FA Safety or finds what is left over after the draft.

Any chance he makes a trade for somebody? Not his way of doing things. But maybe this year will be different.

I do. I think they bring in at least 1 fa vet to start. Guty kind of hinted that they will be looking in a presser. I'm with you. It's SB or bust this season. A vet is a must

I think they bring back one Safety, sign one vet, and draft 2. Gutey always overkills the weakest positions.

Preston, Zadarius, Gary.
Musgrave and Kraft.
Watson, Doubs, Toure, Sammy Watkins.
Reed, Wicks, Dubose.
Jaire and Josh Jackson.

The rumor amongst the bloggers is Savage has been made an offer and he will test FA to get better.