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Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 02 May 2024 09:42
by APB
musclestang wrote:
02 May 2024 09:34
if we ever took the ball out of AR's hands to put it in Hill's for a gadget play I'd want the coach fired.

He was a cool story because he was a heck of an athlete, but your RB's, TE's, WR's and QB's should all be able to do the job better than he could i'm not a fan of taking a more capable and talented player off the field to put in a less capable one. I wouldn't take Love off the field for a gadget player even. He's better at all of it than the gadget.
Well, they took Drew Brees off the field during his final three years, two of them Pro-Bowl performing years, and it's when Hill saw his greatest success.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 02 May 2024 10:22
by Labrev
The only path for Magoo to make the team at WR would be if he carves out a role as a physical, possession receiver, plus Heath not taking a step (thought he was pretty Mid last season overall), plus DuBose not impressing. And then the benefit of having him as your final wide-receiver is he is also an emergency QB3.

But in all likelihood, he's on the outs.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 02 May 2024 11:14
by musclestang
APB wrote:
02 May 2024 09:42

Well, they took Drew Brees off the field during his final three years, two of them Pro-Bowl performing years, and it's when Hill saw his greatest success.
only until the gadget plays were seen and were no longer fooling anyone.

If they chose to pull and MVP level QB for a lesser guy, that's their prerogative. It's not a choice I'd make. I'd leave my QB more capable of knowing what he's seeing in a defense, I'd leave my RB's more capable of running the ball and I'd leave my QB that can throw, hand off, better than the alternative on the field. IMO threats of run or pass are greater with a guy like Rodgers than a guy like Hill running the show.

Once defenses stopped getting stupid in the face of lesser talent and played defense, the gadgets didn't work so well anymore.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 02 May 2024 11:39
by Yoop
musclestang wrote:
02 May 2024 11:14
APB wrote:
02 May 2024 09:42

Well, they took Drew Brees off the field during his final three years, two of them Pro-Bowl performing years, and it's when Hill saw his greatest success.
only until the gadget plays were seen and were no longer fooling anyone.

If they chose to pull and MVP level QB for a lesser guy, that's their prerogative. It's not a choice I'd make. I'd leave my QB more capable of knowing what he's seeing in a defense, I'd leave my RB's more capable of running the ball and I'd leave my QB that can throw, hand off, better than the alternative on the field. IMO threats of run or pass are greater with a guy like Rodgers than a guy like Hill running the show.

Once defenses stopped getting stupid in the face of lesser talent and played defense, the gadgets didn't work so well anymore.
gadget players work because coaches set up plays using them and defenses aren't ready or set up to stop those plays NO took great advantage of Hills athletic ability, not sure that will work for MaGoogh, but it shows our interest to mimic if possible Hills affect. :idn:

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 02 May 2024 20:38
by lupedafiasco
Not sure if it was posted but the Packers declined Eric Stokes 5th year option officially.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 02 May 2024 21:38
by paco
lupedafiasco wrote:
02 May 2024 20:38
Not sure if it was posted but the Packers declined Eric Stokes 5th year option officially.
Easy choice. But hope he plays well and earns a new deal.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 03 May 2024 10:20
by Madcity_matt
paco wrote:
02 May 2024 21:38
lupedafiasco wrote:
02 May 2024 20:38
Not sure if it was posted but the Packers declined Eric Stokes 5th year option officially.
Easy choice. But hope he plays well and earns a new deal.
He had 0 percent chance of getting the 5th year option.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 03 May 2024 12:10
by lupedafiasco
Madcity_matt wrote:
03 May 2024 10:20
paco wrote:
02 May 2024 21:38
lupedafiasco wrote:
02 May 2024 20:38
Not sure if it was posted but the Packers declined Eric Stokes 5th year option officially.
Easy choice. But hope he plays well and earns a new deal.
He had 0 percent chance of getting the 5th year option.
I thought that about Savage but they still gifted him.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 04 May 2024 19:55
by APB

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 05 May 2024 15:31
by Scott4Pack
APB wrote:
04 May 2024 19:55
An "almost modest" mega deal? Please something less than $35M/year (with incentives).
;-)

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 05 May 2024 15:38
by go pak go
Scott4Pack wrote:
05 May 2024 15:31
APB wrote:
04 May 2024 19:55
An "almost modest" mega deal? Please something less than $35M/year (with incentives).
;-)
lol

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 05 May 2024 15:44
by Pckfn23
Scott4Pack wrote:
05 May 2024 15:31
APB wrote:
04 May 2024 19:55
An "almost modest" mega deal? Please something less than $35M/year (with incentives).
;-)
There is absolutely no chance it is under $35M/year. The 16th rank contract for Jared Goff is the first contract with under $35M/year. There is probably little chance the contract will be under $50M/year.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 05 May 2024 16:13
by lupedafiasco
Not a shot Love gets less than 50M per year. I guarantee his agent is working all the angles to get that deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 55M.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 05 May 2024 18:12
by MY_TAKE
lupedafiasco wrote:
05 May 2024 16:13
Not a shot Love gets less than 50M per year. I guarantee his agent is working all the angles to get that deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 55M.
Agree. Chances are that as long as Love continues to progress as he has thus far, it will be a bargain the 2nd half of the contract.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 05 May 2024 18:46
by APB
Yeah, at this point I’m thinking anything under $50 mil/yr will be a bargain. If there’s a belief under $35mil is still on the table, I’d be interested to know when we’re meeting Rodgers for our next ayahuasca retreat.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 05 May 2024 18:51
by NCF
I think under 50 is still possible, but not by much. 5 for $248M is my official prediction.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 06 May 2024 06:49
by BF004
I do hope it’s a nice long contract.

6 for 300 extension.

7 for 312.5 total. 44.6 per. And yes, we will be saying in 2028 that Jordan making $55-$60 million 2029 and 2030 is criminally under paid.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 06 May 2024 07:15
by go pak go
BF004 wrote:
06 May 2024 06:49
I do hope it’s a nice long contract.

6 for 300 extension.

7 for 312.5 total. 44.6 per. And yes, we will be saying in 2028 that Jordan making $55-$60 million 2029 and 2030 is criminally under paid.
Yeah but his cap hit will be $85 million in 2029 so nobody will be saying "but look at the small amount of cash compared to the league."

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 06 May 2024 12:11
by BF004
go pak go wrote:
06 May 2024 07:15
BF004 wrote:
06 May 2024 06:49
I do hope it’s a nice long contract.

6 for 300 extension.

7 for 312.5 total. 44.6 per. And yes, we will be saying in 2028 that Jordan making $55-$60 million 2029 and 2030 is criminally under paid.
Yeah but his cap hit will be $85 million in 2029 so nobody will be saying "but look at the small amount of cash compared to the league."
Guess I'd be hoping our cap hits on the back end would only be around $60 on a ~45M average contract, but probably would be closer to 70 or 80 I'm sure.

Re: Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

Posted: 06 May 2024 12:19
by go pak go
BF004 wrote:
06 May 2024 12:11
go pak go wrote:
06 May 2024 07:15
BF004 wrote:
06 May 2024 06:49
I do hope it’s a nice long contract.

6 for 300 extension.

7 for 312.5 total. 44.6 per. And yes, we will be saying in 2028 that Jordan making $55-$60 million 2029 and 2030 is criminally under paid.
Yeah but his cap hit will be $85 million in 2029 so nobody will be saying "but look at the small amount of cash compared to the league."
Guess I'd be hoping our cap hits on the back end would only be around $60 on a ~45M average contract, but probably would be closer to 70 or 80 I'm sure.
My guess is initial contract setup will be in that $65 million cap hit range by 2028 - 2023 but then am preparing myself for the inevitable "restructuring" that puts those numbers even higher.