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the offense we saw today is almost identical to what we saw in Lafluers first season when Rodgers fought him for control of the pass schemes, same slow developing pass routes, finally we saw some mis direction and motion and scored a TD, then that stuff gets tabled and back to the enemic offense we saw most of the game.
I say it is 1 game.Raptorman wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 18:53If the Vikings defense is “mediocre” at best, what does that say about the Packers offense? Don’t worry, I’m sure it will be better next week.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022 08:10McVay's 2017 Rams team was first in points. It wasn't the system that led to a mediocre season for Rodgers. Vikings' line is what might limit their offense:
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The skill positions have talent.
That defense looks mediocre at best.
Vikings will score some points, but I don't think they have sustained success, more like hit on a few big plays.
Packers offense will not miss a beat.
I just expect Sammy to be who he has been his entire career. And I think there being fewer options around him will actually hurt him as defenses can actually put their better defenders on him if needed
By the end of the year he will be Rodgers go to guy.
A FCS guy with drops issues drops his first meaningful pass, and makes other mistakes in the game. Shocked not shocked.Drj820 wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 20:40Another thing about Christian Watson...that kid played college ball at an FCS school. Sure, the Carrier Dome gets loud...but always for the home team. FCS teams face rowdy road environments at very few locations these days. Especially since App St and Ga Southern are now in FBS.
Im just saying think about going from playing in front of 4,000 to what he jumped into in MN today ha. Kid got dropped off in the deep end. And he sunk. Sadly. Hope he can get his bearings.
Another notable thing: Amari Rodgers was worthless in terms of helping the offense today.
Amari should not be in the NFL. It is just politics as a 3rd round pick as to why he hasnt been cut.wallyuwl wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 21:39A FCS guy with drops issues drops his first meaningful pass, and makes other mistakes in the game. Shocked not shocked.Drj820 wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 20:40Another thing about Christian Watson...that kid played college ball at an FCS school. Sure, the Carrier Dome gets loud...but always for the home team. FCS teams face rowdy road environments at very few locations these days. Especially since App St and Ga Southern are now in FBS.
Im just saying think about going from playing in front of 4,000 to what he jumped into in MN today ha. Kid got dropped off in the deep end. And he sunk. Sadly. Hope he can get his bearings.
Another notable thing: Amari Rodgers was worthless in terms of helping the offense today.
Amari is useless as a returner, too. At least he can fair catch well, do far.
Jefferson averaged 4.0 yards of separation on his 11 targets, according to ESPN Stats & Information research, and gained 138 of his receiving yards on plays when he had at least 3.0 yards of separation. And on a 64-yard haul that set up a field goal in the second quarter, there was not a defender within 10 yards of him.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/345 ... ay-packersThe Vikings were playing their first game in new coach Kevin O'Connell's scheme, and Jefferson said he expected to see the usual double teams and cloud coverages he has grown accustomed to during his first two seasons in the league. He was surprised, however, to see the Packers did not consistently ask Alexander to follow him in coverage.
-- Rob DemovskyWhat to know:
Season openers don't matter: At least that's the way the Packers seem to treat them. This was almost as bad as last year's 38-3 Week 1 loss to the Saints, and the Packers still managed to win 13 games that season. Most teams devise game plans for regular-season games. It didn't seem like the Packers did much of that, at least not when it came to Vikings receiver Justin Jefferson (nine catches for 184 yards and two touchdowns). It's not like the Packers didn't know they needed to stop No. 18, but it sure looked like they didn't try. He wasn't just open -- he was wide open. And why give cornerback Jaire Alexander a $30 million signing bonus this offseason if you're not going to have him shadow the best receiver in the NFC North?
What's a bigger concern, the Packers' offense or defense?
At this point, it's the defense. Coordinator Joe Barry had all 11 of his preferred starters available (12 if you count slot cornerback Rasul Douglas). On paper, this was supposed to be the best defense the Packers had in years. On the field, it looked like a paper tiger. At least Aaron Rodgers & Co. had an excuse: No Allen Lazard (ankle), the presumptive No. 1 receiver, and neither starting tackle, as David Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins continue to work their way back from knee injuries. It might have been different early had rookie receiver Christian Watson not dropped a would-be 75-yard touchdown pass on the Packers' first offensive play and had AJ Dillon not gotten stuffed on fourth-and-goal in the second quarter.
Yes, when you have an inexperienced WR corps simplicity should have been the order of the day.bud fox wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 19:40I think the play calling is too convoluted in this offense. Seeing clips before the play calls seem to go on for ever at times and with this line/wr group it's going to take even longer.
May need to be dumbed down but then you could lose that creativity.
It's a problem without leaders on the line.
Did the Vikes double team him often seeing we were without Lazard?
It was encouraging to see how he outran everyone on that play. He could be the WR to take the top off defenses in time like MVS did. Watson missed a lot of camp this summer too.Drj820 wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 20:40Another thing about Christian Watson...that kid played college ball at an FCS school. Sure, the Carrier Dome gets loud...but always for the home team. FCS teams face rowdy road environments at very few locations these days. Especially since App St and Ga Southern are now in FBS.
Im just saying think about going from playing in front of 4,000 to what he jumped into in MN today ha. Kid got dropped off in the deep end. And he sunk. Sadly. Hope he can get his bearings.
Another notable thing: Amari Rodgers was worthless in terms of helping the offense today.
Adams didn't set the league on fire right away either.wallyuwl wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 21:39A FCS guy with drops issues drops his first meaningful pass, and makes other mistakes in the game. Shocked not shocked.Drj820 wrote: ↑11 Sep 2022 20:40Another thing about Christian Watson...that kid played college ball at an FCS school. Sure, the Carrier Dome gets loud...but always for the home team. FCS teams face rowdy road environments at very few locations these days. Especially since App St and Ga Southern are now in FBS.
Im just saying think about going from playing in front of 4,000 to what he jumped into in MN today ha. Kid got dropped off in the deep end. And he sunk. Sadly. Hope he can get his bearings.
Another notable thing: Amari Rodgers was worthless in terms of helping the offense today.
Amari is useless as a returner, too. At least he can fair catch well, do far.
