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Every team has a stinker or 2 every year. How many thought Washington was going to go into Pittsburg and beat the 11 win Steelers last night? LV had to go to the wire to beat a winless Jets team. MN struggled to beat the Jags at home. Any given Sunday...texas wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 00:53I'll go one further. We're the best team in the NFC. The TB game raises questions, but there are several reasonable explanations for that performance that don't drop us below being the top team.BF004 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020 19:46I mean of course we have our faults, every team does. It is very unlikely we win the super, as it is for every single team. Like maybe 10%, 15% tops given our current state? Just so easy to be like, yeah, I called it, we clearly weren’t good enough here. That’s just not going out on a limb. Enjoy the ride and see what we can do.German_Panzer wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020 19:40
This Eagles team was in shambles and we let them get back. That tells volumes. I hope I see ghosts here and I hope I am overcritical but it ain't a good sign when you fall apart where you should start cruising. I mean: 4th and 18 and they score a TD? Are u kidding me? This is not Detroit, man, this is the Super Bowl! (Yeah,I stole that line, bonus point if you know the context of it)
I feel like I must have watched a different game today than most. We were dominant other than two plays. It is 100 times easier to clamp down and improve on those two plays vs trying to improve on the other 58 plays when you get your tails kicked.
I just do not see a better team than is in the NFC. That doesn’t even mean we are the best or should expect to be in the super bowl, just there isn’t anyone clearly better than us.
I bet he still has friends on the team and in GB, interesting tid bit though
The talk over at FF is the Titans pass defense leaves a lot to be desired. If this is true Rodgers and company could have another big day. But first things first. It seems the loins players are happy to see Patricia gone and they played with much more spirit for Bevell. We have to take care of business in Detroit this weekend. We can't screw up and turn the ball over.packman114 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 08:28The problem is every NFC team has warts this year. Don't know if we're the best but we are definitely in the conversation. The best team will show it in the playoffs. I like the way we're trending but Titans game is what I'm waiting to see. That will test our defense perfectly for the playoffs.
Not to mention they also got a defensive TD and a ST TD.
The three stars of the game were: 1. Aaron Rodgers. 2. Dean Lowry. 3. Elgton Jenkins. As a team, the Packers received 3 ½ footballs.
Robert Tonyan (38) is the first TE since Cincinnati’s Rodney Holman in 1986-87 to post a TD reception of 25 yards or more in three straight games.
Not only was Elgton Jenkins the only blocker not charged with a pressure, but he also was the only one without a “bad” run. Because of Jenkins’ talent and versatility, the Packers found life without Corey Linsley (knee) to be OK. In pass protection, Jenkins spent much of the game sliding toward DT Fletcher Cox. When matched against Cox one-on-one, he held up just fine. His efficiency on shotgun snaps has been a surprise. Billy Turner started his first game at RG since the NFC Championship Game. His opponent, Cox, still is a great player in his ninth season but was limited to 62 percent playing time because of a neck injury. Cox outmuscled Turner on a pair of “bad” runs but never beat him in pass pro. Turner’s ability to think on his feet was mentioned by Aaron Jones. When Turner made a call just before the ball was snapped alerting others that the Eagles were bringing a weak safety blitz, Jones took heed and cut the run back away from the blitz and to daylight for a 77-yard TD. Lucas Patrick hadn’t played a single snap at LG since the opener. He also is playing with a toe injury that has limited his range. The coaches decided that moving Patrick from RG to LG, Turner from RT to RG and starting Rick Wagner at RT was better than going with rookie Jon Runyan at LG. This unit has been so sturdy all season that it was rather shocking to see Patrick get beat by DT Javon Hargrave for a sack in 2.7 seconds on the Packers’ second play. Other than that and 1 ½ “bad” runs, Patrick’s day was clean. Opponents probably don’t like Patrick’s gung-ho approach but they have to respect it. David Bakhtiari had another strong performance, yielding one-half pressure and one “bad” run. In an unconventional move, Bakhtiari and Patrick traded positions on the last two kneel-downs.
With all the passing in the red zone, Aaron Jones (40) had scored just one touchdown since returning from injury in Game 8. His number of carries had declined and he wasn’t featured nearly as much in the passing game. His playing time (109 snaps) compared to Jamaal Williams’ snap count (94) in the last three games might have been disconcerting as well. Ever the good teammate, Jones just keeps playing hard. This was the day he had been waiting on. If not for the pitchout that Jones fumbled on the first play, Jones might well have been the team’s best player. In 18 touches he broke 10 tackles, four more than his season-high against the Vikings in Game 1.
Dean Lowry, who played 31 of the 62 possible snaps on defense, might have played his finest game. His one sack was of the hustle variety as he spun off a block and into Jalen Hurts’ escape route. That was the last of the seven sacks; a series earlier, he set up the sixth sack by flushing Hurts toward the Smith’s. Lowry had two other pressures for a share of the team lead with four. All season, Mike Pettine has used either Kenny Clark (44) or Kingsley Keke (24) as the lone 300-pounder on a four-man rush line with the three outside linebackers in third-and-long situations. On Sunday, Lowry was playing so well that Pettine had him in that role on the final series. On the first of Keke’s two sacks, he actually ran into Rashan Gary, picked himself up next to RG Jason Peters and trapped Carson Wentz in 4.8 seconds. Later, he beat Peters, a nine-time Pro Bowl left tackle now playing inside, with a tremendous move and engulfed Wentz in 2.7. Keke finished with 2 ½ pressures compared to 1 ½ for Clark, who had the toughest matchup in Pro Bowl center Jason Kelce. Clark contributed to a solid performance against the interior run. The quarterbacks, however, scrambled for 47, and Clark lost containment against Wentz on an 11-yard gain. Tyler Lancaster (14) didn’t play much largely because there was a season-low seven snaps with three bigs on the field. Already without Montravius Adams due to injury, the Packers lost deep reserve Billy Winn with a left triceps injury on his third snap.
Christian Kirksey (62) had another hum-drum showing as an every-down player. He has had some issues with alignment, late reactions and taking chances. He made a terrific play defending a 20-yard pass to RB Boston Scott on a leak-out. Although Scott’s 28-yard run was called back, Kirksey was way late getting over. Kamal Martin (16) goes a mile a minute, which is sometimes good and sometimes bad. He went hard on the first play but missed Miles Sanders in the backfield on what became a 6-yard run. Ten plays later, he helped halt the drive with a tackle for a loss on a similar charge. There are times Martin’s speed and energy enable him to outrun his inexperience and mistakes. Back after a three-game absence due to COVID-19, Krys Barnes played only on special teams.
Adrian Amos (62) and others had a fairly easy afternoon. Darnell Savage (62) closed the game out with a wonderful, stretched-out interception in which he had to stop on a dime and react to the ball. That partially atoned for the 41-yard bomb to Goedert in which he guessed wrong, planted on the wrong foot and slipped, which often happens in those situations. Switching Savage’s deep role with Amos’ box role has helped Savage. Raven Greene (32) appeared to suffer a shoulder injury late. Greene would be missed both as a rugged though undersized run player and Mike Pettine’s favorite blitzer. Pettine sent Greene six times. He responded with 1 ½ pressures, including a partial sack in which he beat LG Isaac Seumalo, couldn’t get Wentz down, lost his footing, scrambled up and nailed him the second time. Will Redmond (nine), who is even smaller than Greene, replaced him. Jaire Alexander (61) was going along great, having played the run tough and breaking up three passes. Then on fourth and 18, he reacted to Hurts’ advance through the pocket toward him, didn’t get deep enough and watched Greg Ward catch a 32-yard TD behind him. Neither Kevin King (59) nor Chandon Sullivan (60) did much business. When King didn’t get his long arms on rookie Jalen Reagor and opened his hips anyway, he couldn’t quite keep up and the completion was for 34 yards.
Yeah he needs to improve his instincs a bit, but that will come with playing time i believe. I like how he looks excited to go sideline to sideline and tattoo a ball carrier. I want to play him tons starting now, and I dont care if we have to suffer through some rookie mistakes.
I agree. This is the time we need him to build minutes so he can be ascending by January.Drj820 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 12:23Yeah he needs to improve his instincs a bit, but that will come with playing time i believe. I like how he looks excited to go sideline to sideline and tattoo a ball carrier. I want to play him tons starting now, and I dont care if we have to suffer through some rookie mistakes.
I don't know. He committed a defensive holding call on that first series on Sunday and he wasn't even in the game.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 12:59While we're discussing rookies to replace the injured 3rd safety, I wonder if Vernon Scott, the rookie actually drafted for that position, might be worthy of a few more minutes.
I actually texted a friend saying I'd rather face the Chiefs without Hill than the Chiefs without Mahomes.go pak go wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 13:11If you are looking at the "likely way to beat the Packers" in the postseason, we will likely be facing RBs who can make big plays in the pass game with MN, NO's, LAR?, and KC.
Kamara and Cook have shredded us. I just wonder how we can combat that vs a Tyreek Hill.
I'd rather take my chances with Scott or a linebacker than watch Redmond bounce off running backs and tight endsgo pak go wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 13:09I don't know. He committed a defensive holding call on that first series on Sunday and he wasn't even in the game.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 12:59While we're discussing rookies to replace the injured 3rd safety, I wonder if Vernon Scott, the rookie actually drafted for that position, might be worthy of a few more minutes.
But I would honestly love to see that happen.
Again. It won't happen. But by and large I would like us to try and play with more 2 ILBs more often.