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Yet you look at just about any poll someone puts out on Twitter and the majority, sometimes vast majority, want Rodgers back.
Yes, it appears football geeks on message boards want Rodgers traded. Over on FF there are guys who are actually pissed that the Packers are considering extending him. They say they are weary of him choking in the playoffs and are afraid if we keep Rodgers we'll be cap hell for years, Love will walk when his contract is up and we'll be without a QB. One guy even said if we win a Lombardi in the next 2 years it still wouldn't be worth it!paco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:13Yet you look at just about any poll someone puts out on Twitter and the majority, sometimes vast majority, want Rodgers back.
I think more analytical fans like here, see the benefit in trading him. Casual fans have no clue what the salary cap actually is, what the draft is, or anything other than what they see on their TV on Sunday.
Haven't suffered whiplash like this in a long time. Read the first paragraph and started a vehement rebuttal, then read the second and concur.paco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:13Yet you look at just about any poll someone puts out on Twitter and the majority, sometimes vast majority, want Rodgers back.
I think more analytical fans like here, see the benefit in trading him. Casual fans have no clue what the salary cap actually is, what the draft is, or anything other than what they see on their TV on Sunday.
Half Empty wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:27Haven't suffered whiplash like this in a long time. Read the first paragraph and started a vehement rebuttal, then read the second and concur.paco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:13Yet you look at just about any poll someone puts out on Twitter and the majority, sometimes vast majority, want Rodgers back.
I think more analytical fans like here, see the benefit in trading him. Casual fans have no clue what the salary cap actually is, what the draft is, or anything other than what they see on their TV on Sunday.
think about this thoughpaco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:13Yet you look at just about any poll someone puts out on Twitter and the majority, sometimes vast majority, want Rodgers back.
I think more analytical fans like here, see the benefit in trading him. Casual fans have no clue what the salary cap actually is, what the draft is, or anything other than what they see on their TV on Sunday.
We know what we have with Rodgers, a very good QB, we have no idea what the draft picks or other compensation will offer, thats as big a guess as any comment concerning Rodgers
You are right Yoop. (did those words just come out of my mouth?Yoop wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:35think about this thoughpaco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:13Yet you look at just about any poll someone puts out on Twitter and the majority, sometimes vast majority, want Rodgers back.
I think more analytical fans like here, see the benefit in trading him. Casual fans have no clue what the salary cap actually is, what the draft is, or anything other than what they see on their TV on Sunday.
Packer forums comprise of about 1% of Packer fans, ( educated guess) and while they do pay attention to salary cap and they believe a boatload of trade compensation garnered from a trade for Rodgers will keep this team competitive, the other 99% or many of them, lived through times when #1 picks specially QB's rotated through the doors of Lambeau like fast food orders, quickly devoured, followed by a trip to the out house
I know fans that keep up on all Packer news and have never joined a Packer forum, and they know just as much as people here.
most comments I hear from opposing teams fans is how informed and knowledgeable Packer fans are, and they weren't talking about Packer forum members
) Packers fans, by and large, are some of the most knowledgeable. But I do think it is safe to say, the majority of the well educated among Packers fans do go to a forum or some other place to talk and read on a regular basis.your right most forum members are more informed and more knowledgeable then the average fan, however prior to ever becoming a forum member back in the late 90's, I received the GBPG, and Ray Nitschke's Packer report, and various other football info sources, we didn't have access to a internet back then, but I'am sure many average fans use that these days, my point is that even the average fan is more informed these days then ever before.paco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 10:26You are right Yoop. (did those words just come out of my mouth?Yoop wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:35think about this thoughpaco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:13
Yet you look at just about any poll someone puts out on Twitter and the majority, sometimes vast majority, want Rodgers back.
I think more analytical fans like here, see the benefit in trading him. Casual fans have no clue what the salary cap actually is, what the draft is, or anything other than what they see on their TV on Sunday.
Packer forums comprise of about 1% of Packer fans, ( educated guess) and while they do pay attention to salary cap and they believe a boatload of trade compensation garnered from a trade for Rodgers will keep this team competitive, the other 99% or many of them, lived through times when #1 picks specially QB's rotated through the doors of Lambeau like fast food orders, quickly devoured, followed by a trip to the out house
I know fans that keep up on all Packer news and have never joined a Packer forum, and they know just as much as people here.
most comments I hear from opposing teams fans is how informed and knowledgeable Packer fans are, and they weren't talking about Packer forum members
Still that is the minority of your average football fan as a whole, who knows as much about a nickel defense as Favre did.
And for those counting, here are all the 1st round QB's drafted by the Packers since Starr (yes he was 17th round but I didn't go back farther).
Randy Duncan - '59
Don Horn - '67
Jerry Tasse - '72
Rich Campbell - '81
Aaron Rodgers - 2005
Jordan Love - 2020
Not exactly a revolving door of 1st rounders. But obviously plenty of others in that time.
That's true. It's something that is nice about Gutey, when he does say something, its rarely a lie.
Ah....Ray Nitschke's Packer Report. I kept all of them from the 1996 / Super Bowl 31 season. Ray's weekly column was always a joy to read.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 11:02your right most forum members are more informed and more knowledgeable then the average fan, however prior to ever becoming a forum member back in the late 90's, I received the GBPG, and Ray Nitschke's Packer report, and various other football info sources, we didn't have access to a internet back then, but I'am sure many average fans use that these days, my point is that even the average fan is more informed these days then ever before.paco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 10:26You are right Yoop. (did those words just come out of my mouth?Yoop wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 09:35
think about this though
Packer forums comprise of about 1% of Packer fans, ( educated guess) and while they do pay attention to salary cap and they believe a boatload of trade compensation garnered from a trade for Rodgers will keep this team competitive, the other 99% or many of them, lived through times when #1 picks specially QB's rotated through the doors of Lambeau like fast food orders, quickly devoured, followed by a trip to the out house
I know fans that keep up on all Packer news and have never joined a Packer forum, and they know just as much as people here.
most comments I hear from opposing teams fans is how informed and knowledgeable Packer fans are, and they weren't talking about Packer forum members
Still that is the minority of your average football fan as a whole, who knows as much about a nickel defense as Favre did.
And for those counting, here are all the 1st round QB's drafted by the Packers since Starr (yes he was 17th round but I didn't go back farther).
Randy Duncan - '59
Don Horn - '67
Jerry Tasse - '72
Rich Campbell - '81
Aaron Rodgers - 2005
Jordan Love - 2020
Not exactly a revolving door of 1st rounders. But obviously plenty of others in that time.
so when they say they want Rodgers back it's at least partially do to the reality they know which side of the bread the butter is on
Our luck he gets hurt week 5 and is donzo
Can Gronk play of Special Teams? (heck yes.........I'm serious).
I waited for it weekly, bought a subscription for my father to as soon as it came out, I think in 1974, if memory serves it was just called the Ray Nitschke pro report at that time and later became the Packer report, living in Chicago land Packer news was hard to come by Rays weekly was about all there was.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 16:27Ah....Ray Nitschke's Packer Report. I kept all of them from the 1996 / Super Bowl 31 season. Ray's weekly column was always a joy to read.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 11:02your right most forum members are more informed and more knowledgeable then the average fan, however prior to ever becoming a forum member back in the late 90's, I received the GBPG, and Ray Nitschke's Packer report, and various other football info sources, we didn't have access to a internet back then, but I'am sure many average fans use that these days, my point is that even the average fan is more informed these days then ever before.paco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 10:26
You are right Yoop. (did those words just come out of my mouth?
Still that is the minority of your average football fan as a whole, who knows as much about a nickel defense as Favre did.
And for those counting, here are all the 1st round QB's drafted by the Packers since Starr (yes he was 17th round but I didn't go back farther).
Randy Duncan - '59
Don Horn - '67
Jerry Tasse - '72
Rich Campbell - '81
Aaron Rodgers - 2005
Jordan Love - 2020
Not exactly a revolving door of 1st rounders. But obviously plenty of others in that time.
so when they say they want Rodgers back it's at least partially do to the reality they know which side of the bread the butter is on
Awesome re-cap Yooper. I subscribed to the Packer Report when I lived in Seattle. Same as you, Ray's Packer Report was all I had to follow the Packers other than USA Today's sports page. Back in those days there were 2 Packers bars with large satellite dishes where I'd go watch the games on Sunday.Yoop wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022 07:07I waited for it weekly, bought a subscription for my father to as soon as it came out, I think in 1974, if memory serves it was just called the Ray Nitschke pro report at that time and later became the Packer report, living in Chicago land Packer news was hard to come by Rays weekly was about all there was.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 16:27Ah....Ray Nitschke's Packer Report. I kept all of them from the 1996 / Super Bowl 31 season. Ray's weekly column was always a joy to read.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Mar 2022 11:02
your right most forum members are more informed and more knowledgeable then the average fan, however prior to ever becoming a forum member back in the late 90's, I received the GBPG, and Ray Nitschke's Packer report, and various other football info sources, we didn't have access to a internet back then, but I'am sure many average fans use that these days, my point is that even the average fan is more informed these days then ever before.
so when they say they want Rodgers back it's at least partially do to the reality they know which side of the bread the butter is on
heres some reading stuff on the importance of the MLB in Rays era.
By the mid to late 1950s, once the 4-3 alignment had essentially become every NFL team's every-down defense, the middle linebacker was the centerpiece. Six middle linebackers who started their careers during those transitional years and played into the 1960s were inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The list is a roll call of legends like at no other defensive position from that period: Chuck Bednarik, Bill George, Joe Schmidt, Les Richter and Sam Huff. Dick Butkus was a latecomer to the group.
But no name was anymore recognizable or synonymous with the position than Ray Nitschke. Not long after Nitschke retired, the middle linebacker disappeared in the 3-4 defense and its role in the 4-3 diminished over time with situation substitution.
https://www.packers.com/news/history-hof-ray-nitschke
