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go pak go wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 12:54

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 12:16

go pak go wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 10:59

Unfortunately he was never good at it. Ball skills are so important for safeties and he just really lacks it. He can actually be a decent safety when he plays fired up if that part of his game was there.

The play in Atlanta will always haunt me because it happened right in front of me. Any other safety and that is an interception. I can't believe Savage did not pick off that ball let alone allow a completion. The TV camera on that play did not do it just on how poorly Savage played it. It's like he literally didn't want the ball.

my best memory of Savage was I think late year one, KIng was being beaten like a unwanted step child by a TE (can't remember the name, Davis???), Capers rolled Savage over to cover him and that was the last we heard of that TE in that game, Savage had talent, for whatever reason it never really lasted with us.

So your best memory of Savage was covering a tight end, but you don't know who, releiving King, who was an outside corner in 2019 and likely didn't cover TE's that year, and responsibility adjusted by a defensive coordinator who wasn't our defensive coordinator.

Savage must not have made a huge impression.

the point is that Savage has shown one on one coverage ability and showed it in that game when our boundary freaking CB was getting roasted

Labrev wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 13:27

the point is that Savage has shown one on one coverage ability and showed it in that game when our boundary freaking CB was getting roasted

You clearly forgot the Baltimore game from a few years ago. Savage got toasted all game long by Mark Andrews.

Also the TD he let up in our most recent game, the playoff loss to SanFran, toasted 1-on-1 by Kittle.

Yeah Andrews and Kittle are top TEs in the league, but we are not talking about a mid-round safety for whom the expectation was just to be a decent stopgap, we are talking about a Round 1 guy for whom we traded up, expecting he would be a top safety in the league. Isolated instances of good play are not enough after Year 2.

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 13:44

I wasn't arguing to keep Savage, or about his play lately, my point was he did well as a 2 high, and rover.

everyone bitches about Savage, nothing about the GM trading up so much to draft him

Labrev wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 14:35

The funny part is, you do not actually ever argue the GM is bad yourself, yoop. It is not even your position that he is.

To the extent that Gute's job performance is discussed here, your posts largely praise the job he has done.

So your only point for ever asking "why is no one talking about the GM's role in all this?!" is as a lazy catch-all defense for the players, coaches, and whomsoever else you feel the weird instinct to defend: Rodgers (who you actually hate), Savage, Pettine, Capers, etc.

It would be one thing if you actually thought he is doing a bad job, and bothered to elaborate how/why, then it would not be lazy, but the way that *you* use it is just lazy. It's just: "derp, player is not playing gud, GM got the player. Ergo, GM fault." When in reality, a lot more goes into player success than just the GM's eval process.

As is, you just invoke it as a "Get Out of Jail Free"-Card when your argument becomes untenable.

go pak go wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 16:39

I doubt Savage has any impact for Chicago.

APB wrote: ↑

05 May 2024 18:46

Yeah, at this point I’m thinking anything under $50 mil/yr will be a bargain. If there’s a belief under $35mil is still on the table, I’d be interested to know when we’re meeting Rodgers for our next ayahuasca retreat.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 17:13

go pak go wrote: ↑

07 May 2024 16:39

I doubt Savage has any impact for Chicago.

Good point, considering he plays for Jacksonville now.

APB wrote: ↑

08 May 2024 06:07

APB wrote: ↑

05 May 2024 18:46

Yeah, at this point I’m thinking anything under $50 mil/yr will be a bargain. If there’s a belief under $35mil is still on the table, I’d be interested to know when we’re meeting Rodgers for our next ayahuasca retreat.

Following up:

APB wrote: ↑

08 May 2024 06:09

I was curious if there was any relation. Glad there is.

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 May 2024 07:25

The details are absolutely crushing you the last 24 hours yoop.

We released Anthony Johnson the CB. Not Anthony Johnson Jr the safety.

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 May 2024 07:25

The details are absolutely crushing you the last 24 hours yoop.

We released Anthony Johnson the CB. Not Anthony Johnson Jr the safety.

NCF wrote: ↑

08 May 2024 08:07

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 May 2024 07:25

The details are absolutely crushing you the last 24 hours yoop.

We released Anthony Johnson the CB. Not Anthony Johnson Jr the safety.

I feel bad for saying this, but I was excited to see they released the CB so I don't have to listen to Andy Herman make that clarification for the 8 billionth time.