Packers @ Lions GDT: Thursday, Dec. 5th, 7:15 PM CST

[Pugger]

I think I feel similar to a lot of folks. I know we lost, but I feel good about the Packers. We definitely showed that we are one of the elite teams in the league. The refs sucked but honestly, if we play them in the playoffs, I would expect the same calls to go in favor of the home team, so we just need a couple other breaks to go our way. I still think we're a year out from being a true Super Bowl Team. Just need a couple extra pieces and players to develop for one more year but we'll be thankful for this experience we've gained the last 2 seasons.

PS. Dan Campbell is both the reason why the Lions will make the Super Bowl and lose the Super Bowl. The dumbest great coach I've ever seen. We could have stopped them on that 4th down and then drove the field and kicked a winning field goal. What's even better is that people are praising him today for it. It'll bite him like it did last year.

The ONLY reason people are praising him is because they converted. Had they not Campbell would have been rightly roasted for taking such a stupid risk.

[Pckfn23]

[Yoop]

Classic case of refs seeing the result and not the process. Absolute crap.

OK, but if Love had thrown the ball to Jacobs on first read, WAtson running into the defender wouldn't have mattered and Jacobs only had one player to beat and he was 7 yards away, the chance that Jacobs doesn't score were slim to none.

I see Love do this stuff and late on throws in every game, I guess I'am the only one who sees this stuff, mostly the crowd just points out the good plays, which are many, but Love is so inconsistent, and it's these type no plays for our offense sitting on the bench.

[musclestang]

I have zero fear facing the Lions again. I hope we do. Let's win the rest and get a chance to be there.

[Yoop]

I think I feel similar to a lot of folks. I know we lost, but I feel good about the Packers. We definitely showed that we are one of the elite teams in the league. The refs sucked but honestly, if we play them in the playoffs, I would expect the same calls to go in favor of the home team, so we just need a couple other breaks to go our way. I still think we're a year out from being a true Super Bowl Team. Just need a couple extra pieces and players to develop for one more year but we'll be thankful for this experience we've gained the last 2 seasons.

PS. Dan Campbell is both the reason why the Lions will make the Super Bowl and lose the Super Bowl. The dumbest great coach I've ever seen. We could have stopped them on that 4th down and then drove the field and kicked a winning field goal. What's even better is that people are praising him today for it. It'll bite him like it did last year.

The ONLY reason people are praising him is because they converted. Had they not Campbell would have been rightly roasted for taking such a stupid risk.

the consolation prize is that Detroit is 12-1 on 4th and short, and we are the team that supplied his one failure.

I thought there was more time on the clock, but as Campbell said, Love was on a hot streak, so giving GB the ball back with even just 43 seconds was also a big risk.

[Yoop]

I have zero fear facing the Lions again. I hope we do. Let's win the rest and get a chance to be there.

this offense can beat anyone when/if we get a quick start, to often though we have to rely on just running because Love , the receivers, or our OL take the majority of the first half to get the engine revved up, it wears down our defense, while the offense is sitting on the bench, we need to start faster, jmo.

[Pckfn23]

OK, but if Love had thrown the ball to Jacobs on first read, WAtson running into the defender wouldn't have mattered and Jacobs only had one player to beat and he was 7 yards away, the chance that Jacobs doesn't score were slim to none.

I see Love do this stuff and late on throws in every game, I guess I'am the only one who sees this stuff, mostly the crowd just points out the good plays, which are many, but Love is so inconsistent, and it's these type no plays for our offense sitting on the bench.

This isn't on Love. Jacobs isn't the first read, Jacobs is the check down. The first read is Reed on the leak to the left, confirmed by LaFleur in his presser.

The supplied scenario isn't accurate either. Jacobs was 12 yards out when contact was made. There are 3 defenders that would rally to the throw. The contact is within 1 second of the snap:

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Love had 2-3 plays last night where he either should have thrown it or missed. The first play, the flea flicker, and the miss to Kraft. Otherwise he was good last night. The narrative that he is consistently late is unfounded and lacks any evidence.

[musclestang]

Love has had his games where stuff wasn't great, but he was pretty good last night outside of a play or 2. One being where he just had too much urgency on a sure TD.

[Pckfn23]

I have zero fear facing the Lions again. I hope we do. Let's win the rest and get a chance to be there.

this offense can beat anyone when/if we get a quick start, to often though we have to rely on just running because Love , the receivers, or our OL take the majority of the first half to get the engine revved up, it wears down our defense, while the offense is sitting on the bench, we need to start faster, jmo.

Packers have scored first in 9 of 13 games. They have led after the first quarter in 10 of their 13 games. They have led at half in 7 of their 13 games.

[Crazylegs Starks]

[Pckfn23]

Love it!

[musclestang]

I have zero fear facing the Lions again. I hope we do. Let's win the rest and get a chance to be there.

this offense can beat anyone when/if we get a quick start, to often though we have to rely on just running because Love , the receivers, or our OL take the majority of the first half to get the engine revved up, it wears down our defense, while the offense is sitting on the bench, we need to start faster, jmo.

I think we tried starting too fast and just didn't rely on what we did best. lather up those big boys and start moving chains. We move chains, we run more plays and the field and the playbook is wide open.

Defensively we played well I thought. As much as they want to say Detroit was decimated by injuries, our defensive backfield was pretty rough in terms of personnel and it limited us and left some of those things open for them.

I look forward to the rematch.

[lupedafiasco]

We really should have come away with a win in this one. I really don't think the Lions are some in some greatest team ever conversation. They are extremely well coached and disciplined and they play hard. I dont think they have a more talented team overall after watching last nights game.

The three things that really killed us last night was officiating, an inability to tackle and push them backwards, and starting another game slow on offense.

Idk how many times last night we should have had them stopped in their tracks but their players just looked like they wanted it more. Next time around when we hit them we need to be the one sending them backwards. They killed us fighting for extra yards.

The slow starts need to stop on offense. These last 3 games it just feels like the offense explodes in the second half of games but they struggle early on to maintain drives because of sacks and penalties.

[Yoop]

I have zero fear facing the Lions again. I hope we do. Let's win the rest and get a chance to be there.

this offense can beat anyone when/if we get a quick start, to often though we have to rely on just running because Love , the receivers, or our OL take the majority of the first half to get the engine revved up, it wears down our defense, while the offense is sitting on the bench, we need to start faster, jmo.

I think we tried starting too fast and just didn't rely on what we did best. lather up those big boys and start moving chains. We move chains, we run more plays and the field and the playbook is wide open.

Defensively we played well I thought. As much as they want to say Detroit was decimated by injuries, our defensive backfield was pretty rough in terms of personnel and it limited us and left some of those things open for them.

I look forward to the rematch.

me too, hope to.

but we didn't run well to start last night, and our pass pro wasn't good either, of all games not to have a quick start Detroit is to good to wait till 2nd half to start our engines

[Yoop]

OK, but if Love had thrown the ball to Jacobs on first read, WAtson running into the defender wouldn't have mattered and Jacobs only had one player to beat and he was 7 yards away, the chance that Jacobs doesn't score were slim to none.

I see Love do this stuff and late on throws in every game, I guess I'am the only one who sees this stuff, mostly the crowd just points out the good plays, which are many, but Love is so inconsistent, and it's these type no plays for our offense sitting on the bench.

This isn't on Love. Jacobs isn't the first read, Jacobs is the check down. The first read is Reed on the leak to the left, confirmed by LaFleur in his presser.

The supplied scenario isn't accurate either. Jacobs was 12 yards out when contact was made. There are 3 defenders that would rally to the throw. The contact is within 1 second of the snap:
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Love had 2-3 plays last night where he either should have thrown it or missed. The first play, the flea flicker, and the miss to Kraft. Otherwise he was good last night. The narrative that he is consistently late is unfounded and lacks any evidence.

come on now quit defending Lubby, that picture doesn't show Love look right at Jacobs as soon as the ball is snapped, and there is no such thing as a check down receiver in the red zone, throwing to Jacobs on that play was the smart move

[Pckfn23]

OK, but if Love had thrown the ball to Jacobs on first read, WAtson running into the defender wouldn't have mattered and Jacobs only had one player to beat and he was 7 yards away, the chance that Jacobs doesn't score were slim to none.

I see Love do this stuff and late on throws in every game, I guess I'am the only one who sees this stuff, mostly the crowd just points out the good plays, which are many, but Love is so inconsistent, and it's these type no plays for our offense sitting on the bench.

This isn't on Love. Jacobs isn't the first read, Jacobs is the check down. The first read is Reed on the leak to the left, confirmed by LaFleur in his presser.

The supplied scenario isn't accurate either. Jacobs was 12 yards out when contact was made. There are 3 defenders that would rally to the throw. The contact is within 1 second of the snap:
image.png

Love had 2-3 plays last night where he either should have thrown it or missed. The first play, the flea flicker, and the miss to Kraft. Otherwise he was good last night. The narrative that he is consistently late is unfounded and lacks any evidence.

come on now quit defending Lubby, that picture doesn't show Love look right at Jacobs as soon as the ball is snapped, and there is no such thing as a check down receiver in the red zone, throwing to Jacobs on that play was the smart move

There is nothing to defend on this play. Love did nothing wrong. Love looks right at Jacobs to draw the backside defenders over leaving Reed open on the leak to the left. Unfortunately, Reed gets chipped by Jenkins getting manhandled and it screws up the timing. This was confirmed by Matt Lafleur in his post game press conference.

There is absolutely such a thing as check downs in the red zone. That is what Jacobs was. Throwing to Jacobs was the smart move. It was a TD negated by a horrendously inconsistent call.

[Yoop]

I have zero fear facing the Lions again. I hope we do. Let's win the rest and get a chance to be there.

this offense can beat anyone when/if we get a quick start, to often though we have to rely on just running because Love , the receivers, or our OL take the majority of the first half to get the engine revved up, it wears down our defense, while the offense is sitting on the bench, we need to start faster, jmo.

Packers have scored first in 9 of 13 games. They have led after the first quarter in 10 of their 13 games. They have led at half in 7 of their 13 games.

and the 3 or 4 tough opponents they didn't start fast, and lost, you have a habit of twisting stats to make the team appear better then they have been, it's frustrating because it paints a false scenario .

[Yoop]

This isn't on Love. Jacobs isn't the first read, Jacobs is the check down. The first read is Reed on the leak to the left, confirmed by LaFleur in his presser.

The supplied scenario isn't accurate either. Jacobs was 12 yards out when contact was made. There are 3 defenders that would rally to the throw. The contact is within 1 second of the snap:
image.png

Love had 2-3 plays last night where he either should have thrown it or missed. The first play, the flea flicker, and the miss to Kraft. Otherwise he was good last night. The narrative that he is consistently late is unfounded and lacks any evidence.

come on now quit defending Lubby, that picture doesn't show Love look right at Jacobs as soon as the ball is snapped, and there is no such thing as a check down receiver in the red zone, throwing to Jacobs on that play was the smart move

There is nothing to defend on this play. Love did nothing wrong. Love looks right at Jacobs to draw the backside defenders over leaving Reed open on the leak to the left. Unfortunately, Reed gets chipped by Jenkins getting manhandled and it screws up the timing. This was confirmed by Matt Lafleur in his post game press conference.

There is absolutely such a thing as check downs in the red zone. That is what Jacobs was. Throwing to Jacobs was the smart move. It was a TD negated by a horrendously inconsistent call.

why in hell would support something so idiotic it pales in the face of reality, Jacobs was open immediately, and only had one player to beat right from the get go, while Reed and others were tangled in coverage, your right the first look was to freeze the DB/lbers, and it worked so well Love should have counted to 1 and then just thrown him the ball.

and Love is guilty of this stuff regularly, quit defending a QB that has not played consistent football

[Pugger]

We are watching a replay of the game (Jacobs just scored a TD to take a 21-17 lead). Our pass rush is weak and that is a killer with our secondary issues. We started off slow. Usually we get an early lead and hang on for dear life in the second half. I thought Love was fine. He had some nice throws under duress. Jacobs was a bull in there.
Hell, we ended up scoring over 30 points. Our D is still a work in progress. We need another pass rusher and DB. If your offense scores 30+ you should win games like that.

[wallyuwl]

We are watching a replay of the game (Jacobs just scored a TD to take a 21-17 lead). Our pass rush is weak and that is a killer with our secondary issues. We started off slow. Usually we get an early lead and hang on for dear life in the second half. I thought Love was fine. He had some nice throws under duress. Jacobs was a bull in there.
Hell, we ended up scoring over 30 points. Our D is still a work in progress. We need another pass rusher and DB. If your offense scores 30+ you should win games like that.

This is largely what I said last night. Good take.