Packers Huddle

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2020 17:47

go pak go wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2020 17:26

BF004 wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2020 15:02

Earl Thomas released after a fight in practice.


Sounds like they will end up paying him $22 million for one year of service.

We should have listened to the fans and put all our money into Thomas rather than pay Amos, Smith and Smith.

We were just one piece away!

My buddy at work is a huge Ravens fan. The weekend free agency started, we were arguing about free agent safeties (before any had signed). I thought it was obvious that you pay the premium for Earl Thomas, and he thought the better deal was a lower contract for an Adrian Amos. The argument went on for probably 45 seconds of me insisting Thomas was a better value even at top dollar and him insisting Amos was the better value. The alerts for these two signings came within minutes of each other. Our respective teams had each gone against our wishes. Today I texted him to concede the argument.

go pak go wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2020 20:31

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2020 17:47

go pak go wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2020 17:26

We should have listened to the fans and put all our money into Thomas rather than pay Amos, Smith and Smith.

We were just one piece away!

My buddy at work is a huge Ravens fan. The weekend free agency started, we were arguing about free agent safeties (before any had signed). I thought it was obvious that you pay the premium for Earl Thomas, and he thought the better deal was a lower contract for an Adrian Amos. The argument went on for probably 45 seconds of me insisting Thomas was a better value even at top dollar and him insisting Amos was the better value. The alerts for these two signings came within minutes of each other. Our respective teams had each gone against our wishes. Today I texted him to concede the argument.

The one arguement for Earl Thomas is the type of safety he was and that is why I was so intrigued by Thomas was because of his speed.

But honestly with how it all worked out, if Savage develops into the player we hope, he has the speed. We really could be on the extreme plus end of this deal here and it shows. Our defense has the potential from being a clear catastrophic mess in 2018 to really being one of the most feared units in 2020 and beyond.

BSA wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2020 10:19

According to Tim Tucker of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Falcons fans defaulted on $10.9 million in personal seat license payments in the 12-month period which ended in June. Since 2016, fans have defaulted on $42.9 million worth of payments to the team, choosing to give up money already paid , since they were apparently unable to sell the PSL.

These PSL's are critical revenue to pay for the palaces the owners built in recent years. Chargers were supposed to sell $ 400 million to support their new LA Palace and they still haven't sold $ 100 million. PSL's are BS and if more fans default due to COVID - it could be a real problem for many owners
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BSA wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2020 10:48

It is a one time fee, but the dollars were so big that the owners allowed them to use a payment plan to cover it
So these fans have paid some portion of the bill and then defaulted on the remaining debt. In the case of ATL, the fans couldn't re-sell the PSL's because there's no market for them

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2020 11:15

Especially when a lot of the stadiums were overpriced for unnecessary reasons such as needing a retractable roof.

BSA wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2020 11:39

go pak go wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2020 11:15

Especially when a lot of the stadiums were overpriced for unnecessary reasons such as needing a retractable roof.

Yes, stadium building became a dick-measuring contest between the billionaires. The roof in ATL is cool to see, but its a ridiculous waste of money
The other thing is they built a luxury hotel in the middle of the facility and pushed out the blue collar fans who built this league. But the problem with wooing the wealthy fans is that they're fickle and will happily move on to the next big thing, while the blue collar fans they pushed out are diehards for life. This year should be illuminating for the owners as some of their money-only decisions come home to roost

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2020 06:52

Vikings trading for Ngakoue.

Dang.

NCF wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2020 07:29

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2020 06:52

Vikings trading for Ngakoue.

Dang.

Can't afford Everson Griffen, trade for Ngakoue...

The Vikings are sending Jacksonville a second-round pick plus a conditional fifth-round pick that could raise as high as a third-round pick. If Ngakoue is a Pro Bowler this year, it becomes a fourth-round pick. If the Vikings win the Super Bowl and Ngakoue makes the Pro Bowl, it’s a third-round pick.

A one source pegged it, the new salary will be in the range of $13.5 million. (That specific number has not been confirmed, yet.)

It was critical to the trade happening. Teams couldn’t afford to pay him $17.788 million for one year — especially in this year. So his choices were to take what he could get elsewhere or stay in Jacksonville at $17.788 million. Or, as Ngakoue may have done, taken zero dollars this year and not played for Jacksonville at all.

With the Jaguars insisting on getting at least a second-round pick for Ngakoue and unwilling to pay any of his money in order to get the deal done (unlike the Texans last year when sending Jadeveon Clowney to Seattle), the subsidy needed to come not from his prior team but from the player.

And here’s where it gets even more interesting: There was at least one other team from which Ngakoue would have taken even less than what the Vikings are paying him.

So, yes, he wanted out badly. Badly enough to walk away from $17.788 million in a state with no state income tax and to take $13.5 million in a state with a maximum rate of 9.85 percent.

BF004 wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2020 08:56

Sounds like MN will have to make a corresponding move/s just to make cap room for the trade.



Assuming Hunter plays week 1, neither of MN's DE's, as of today, have practiced once yet.

BF004 wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2020 11:00

Vikings are in kind of that limbo, not sure if they are rebuilding or contending, reminds me of us like 2015-2018.

NCF wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2020 07:29

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2020 06:52

Vikings trading for Ngakoue.

Dang.

Can't afford Everson Griffen, trade for Ngakoue...