Packers @ Lions GDT: Thursday, Dec. 5th, 7:15 PM CST

[Yoop]

beer freezes at 28 degrees

good to know, I suppose, point remains the same, the cold weather at Lambeau, and our winning record has the locals selling tickets

From what I have seen, the cold games are attended heavier by Packers fans. The September - Thanksigiving games are the ones that get more taken over by visiting fans.

Another thing is Lambeau is an NFL icon. If there is one "away" stadium you must make as a pilgramage, Lambeau is always in the top 1 - 3 stadiums to do it. So fans flock to GB during the seasonable games. December - January becomes more Packers fan heavy.

I want to hear from Bogey before I just take your word on this information I don't pay that close attention to what fans are filling our seats to be honest, I know of a few Dtroit fans and Bears fans that make this trip nearly every season, and Packer fans that go down there often.

I was the one who brought the article yesterday which stats Lambeau is #2 for fan appreciation, Vikings stadium was first.

and your going to tell me Lambeau is a iconic stadium, I pissed in that soil GPG before it was built, I attended the first game ever played in Lambeau, your grilling this old man up now

just want to add that I was not too upset with this loss, we played hard and pretty good catching back up and tough, against a very well rounded offensive opponent, where we have had to depend on Jacobs, the lions have produced well all season passing and running, and even with so many injuries it's obvious there 2nd tier talent is better than ours, at least at the moment, were younger and it shows.

It was a great hard fought game, even though we lost.

[Drj820]

Eric Stokes just might be what we call a “bust”

[wallyuwl]

Eric Stokes just might be what we call a “bust”

His speed covered up him not being good at football to a certain extent. I juries took his speed.

[musclestang]

what I'am getting at, is that in the red zone, your first read, when as open as Jacobs was becomes discretionary, and up to the QB.

no one other than Jacobs was open on that play, none were in the EZ, plus if he had thrown to Jacobs right away, then Watson is a legal blocker, rather then Later, when the refs ruled it a pick play.

The right side of the backfield is not the first ready or discretionary when the left side is the primary read. Eyes are down field in endzone where primary, 2ndary, and tertiary options are running to see how defense is reacting at snap. Check downs are last. I don't think Jacobs would ever be first read unless Love see no defenders on that side of the field at the snap and nobody rotating over.

[Drj820]

Eric Stokes just might be what we call a “bust”

His speed covered up him not being good at football to a certain extent. I juries took his speed.

ya he always had elite straight line speed with extremely stiff hips.

[RingoCStarrQB]

Kirk Herbstreit needs to stay out of my flat screen TV.

[Scott4Pack]

This is a view of a DLineman for Detroit "crowding" the center. Question: Is crowding supposed to be a penalized action?

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Another point made by Kurt Benkert. He explained that lots of the pressure that Love gave up (and was yielded by our OLine) was a result of having to go on a silent short count. By doing so near the end of the play clock, it enabled the Lions to anticipate the count being on 1 and not 2 or 3 or a dummy count. This allowed the guy over center to create a lot of pressure up front.

I know we also had issues against the blitzes early. But this is still a valid question. I wanted some input from others in this forum. I am hoping that, if this is a problem, that it would be fixed quickly.

[Pugger]

Eric Stokes just might be what we call a “bust”

His speed covered up him not being good at football to a certain extent. I juries took his speed.

All that kid has is speed...

[Pugger]

This is a view of a DLineman for Detroit "crowding" the center. Question: Is crowding supposed to be a penalized action?

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Another point made by Kurt Benkert. He explained that lots of the pressure that Love gave up (and was yielded by our OLine) was a result of having to go on a silent short count. By doing so near the end of the play clock, it enabled the Lions to anticipate the count being on 1 and not 2 or 3 or a dummy count. This allowed the guy over center to create a lot of pressure up front.

I know we also had issues against the blitzes early. But this is still a valid question. I wanted some input from others in this forum. I am hoping that, if this is a problem, that it would be fixed quickly.

"Crowding"? Of course they should have been flagged for being in the neutral zone.

[Raptorman]

Green Bay has had 35 years of being the top dog. This results in a strong road presence but also results in home fans selling their seats as the pent up passion isn't there during a good season like a Lions team would see (since we pretty much always have good seasons)

I'll give you 29 years, not 35. But the 20 before 1995 pretty much sucked for the Packers. From 1971 to 1994 the Packers had 5 winning seasons, and 4 right at .500. And it was pretty easy for fans of other teams to get tickets during that time frame.

[RingoCStarrQB]

Green Bay has had 35 years of being the top dog. This results in a strong road presence but also results in home fans selling their seats as the pent up passion isn't there during a good season like a Lions team would see (since we pretty much always have good seasons)

I'll give you 29 years, not 35. But the 20 before 1995 pretty much sucked for the Packers. From 1971 to 1994 the Packers had 5 winning seasons, and 4 right at .500. And it was pretty easy for fans of other teams to get tickets during that time frame.

1992 to 1994 should be included in the 29 (+3 = 32). 1992 was when the excitement started to ramp up with the signing of Mike Holmgren and Brett Favre, and subsequently Reggie White in 1993 (Jurkovic wore #92 in 1992). I know I was all amped up at the time along with thousands of others. The TD pass from Favre to Kitrick Taylor initiated a Packers fan frenzy that has not dissipated. GO PACK GO!!

[Half Empty]

Really? Really?

[Raptorman]

Green Bay has had 35 years of being the top dog. This results in a strong road presence but also results in home fans selling their seats as the pent up passion isn't there during a good season like a Lions team would see (since we pretty much always have good seasons)

I'll give you 29 years, not 35. But the 20 before 1995 pretty much sucked for the Packers. From 1971 to 1994 the Packers had 5 winning seasons, and 4 right at .500. And it was pretty easy for fans of other teams to get tickets during that time frame.

1992 to 1994 should be included in the 29 (+3 = 32). 1992 was when the excitement started to ramp up with the signing of Mike Holmgren and Brett Favre, and subsequently Reggie White in 1993 (Jurkovic wore #92 in 1992). I know I was all amped up at the time along with thousands of others. The TD pass from Favre to Kitrick Taylor initiated a Packers fan frenzy that has not dissipated. GO PACK GO!!

1 game over .500 and being 2nd in the division doesn't make you top dog. Who was top dog in 92 in the division? The Vikings, 93? The Lions. 94, the Vikings. Oh I understand the excitement for Packer fans during that time, they were finally relevant again.

[Pckfn23]

[Yoop]

just maybe if Love could start a game as though he wasn't in a comma he could do some uptempo passing and get the ball out fast, but he shies away from that stuff because he is so slow to set up and deliver, or at least that's how it looks, and I'am not hear to bash this QB, or Lafleur, but we can't continue to play so poorly to start games.

how can a grading service have Love at the top of the QB list when he's done so poorly starting games? it makes no sense, IMO Love playing like he did the last 8 games last season and we'd be 11-2 or better right now

[NCF]

1 game over .500 and being 2nd in the division doesn't make you top dog. Who was top dog in 92 in the division? The Vikings, 93? The Lions. 94, the Vikings. Oh I understand the excitement for Packer fans during that time, they were finally relevant again.

Green Bay won playoff games in 93 and 94. The Vikings and the Lions didn't. That was definitely the turning point. I'll give you 92, as the Packers missed the playoffs, but I do think 1993 was the true turning point.

[Pckfn23]

109 QB Rating in the 1st quarter the last 4 games. Not starting slow.

[Raptorman]

1 game over .500 and being 2nd in the division doesn't make you top dog. Who was top dog in 92 in the division? The Vikings, 93? The Lions. 94, the Vikings. Oh I understand the excitement for Packer fans during that time, they were finally relevant again.

Green Bay won playoff games in 93 and 94. The Vikings and the Lions didn't. That was definitely the turning point. I'll give you 92, as the Packers missed the playoffs, but I do think 1993 was the true turning point.

Well he said 35 years, which goes back to 1989. 29 years, 32 years is pushing it. 31 years, I can see, but from 89-92 the Packers had one winning season and went 29-35 during that time. Not top dog numbers. And I'll agree, 93 was when it turned around. However, they still didn't win the division until 95.

[Yoop]

109 QB Rating in the 1st quarter the last 4 games. Not starting slow.

sorry but that rating doesn't tell an accurate picture, he had about 30 yards passing in first half against Detroit and threw some very difficult passes to catch, just as he has in other games, if ya only throw a few passes because the coach is hell bent on establishing a ground game then your rating will obviously be better

[Pckfn23]

109 QB Rating in the 1st quarter the last 4 games. Not starting slow.

sorry but that rating doesn't tell an accurate picture, he had about 30 yards passing in first half against Detroit and threw some very difficult passes to catch, just as he has in other games, if ya only throw a few passes because the coach is hell bent on establishing a ground game then your rating will obviously be better

1 game does not a trend make.