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Just do it for another 5 games and I'd be okay. It's all I ask.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 10:03And that is two teams with really good skill players.
Enjoy it while you see it. Because no team can maintain this for very long.
Yoop wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 13:53someone said that Barry was sand bagging our defense so we could take the league by storm in January, seems to be working, the storm part that is, the sand bagging, maybe that too.
night and day since the bye, we use more heavy fronts, we use more man coverage, 2 hats and quarters coverage, more attacking versus waiting on the play to develop, we use a 5th man with pass rush I think more, seems like someone flipped a switch and the defense we all expected day one has finally arrived.
Oh yoop. whatever, I have no problem being wrong about the blitz thing, as I said " it seems to me" that we did it more, we did it with Walker I remember and Minny had a big play right where Walker would have been.go pak go wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 15:18Yoop wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 13:53someone said that Barry was sand bagging our defense so we could take the league by storm in January, seems to be working, the storm part that is, the sand bagging, maybe that too.
night and day since the bye, we use more heavy fronts, we use more man coverage, 2 hats and quarters coverage, more attacking versus waiting on the play to develop, we use a 5th man with pass rush I think more, seems like someone flipped a switch and the defense we all expected day one has finally arrived.
the more I think about this, this guy is probably considering it a blitz every time we send 5, which would obviously raise the % since we do send 5 in a base front , I very much doubt we sent a DB or ILB near 50% of the time, who is this guy anyway that we should give value to his twitter account?Yoop wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 15:32whatever, I have no problem being wrong about the blitz thing, as I said " it seems to me" that we did it more, we did it with Walker I remember and Minny had a big play right where Walker would have been.go pak go wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 15:18Yoop wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 13:53someone said that Barry was sand bagging our defense so we could take the league by storm in January, seems to be working, the storm part that is, the sand bagging, maybe that too.
night and day since the bye, we use more heavy fronts, we use more man coverage, 2 hats and quarters coverage, more attacking versus waiting on the play to develop, we use a 5th man with pass rush I think more, seems like someone flipped a switch and the defense we all expected day one has finally arrived.
I suppose I should go read all the data before ever coming here to have a conversation, make a comment or even say Hi how the hell are ya, no &%$@, you people get wood correcting me
look our pass rush is nothing to brag about, if the rush takes 5 seconds to get a pressure or 2 seconds it's still rated as a pressure, the difference is one is a coverage pressure the other a actual pressure that we or the player can be proud of, there is a huge difference.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 18:41It is a blitz in the NFL sending 5 regardless of whether it is a 3-4 or a 4-3. That is how everyone counts a blitz, 5+ pass rushers.
Regardless of that he is comparing the Packers against the Packers. They have went from 43% blitz before the bye to 10% blitz. It doesn't matter what one thinks the definition is, they are sending less pass rushers now than they did before the bye.
They have definitely changed things up and played well against 2 of the more explosive teams in the NFL. Time will tell.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 19:43So has our defense over-achieved these past few weeks, or are we seeing a genuine improvement? Is it enough to face teams like the Eagles, Niners, and Dallas and be competitive with their defenses?
I do think Barry has finally come around to playing more to his players strengths rather than staying faithful to his preferred scheme. We see it with the coverage shells over the aggressive CB bump play and the DL being more aggressive in single gap quick-twitch penetration run defense.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 19:43So has our defense over-achieved these past few weeks, or are we seeing a genuine improvement? Is it enough to face teams like the Eagles, Niners, and Dallas and be competitive with their defenses?
A part of me is a bit disappointed with the improvement in the defense. It probably means Barry is staying as the DC and I was looking forward to someone new. Fear that next year it will be back to the same crap earlier this season.APB wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 19:56I do think Barry has finally come around to playing more to his players strengths rather than staying faithful to his preferred scheme. We see it with the coverage shells over the aggressive CB bump play and the DL being more aggressive in single gap quick-twitch penetration run defense.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023 19:43So has our defense over-achieved these past few weeks, or are we seeing a genuine improvement? Is it enough to face teams like the Eagles, Niners, and Dallas and be competitive with their defenses?
I don’t know if it will stay successful as more is put on film but I certainly hope we stick with it until opposing teams show they can defeat it. They’ve damn sure shown they can defeat the preferred 2-gap run defense and 10 yd cushion passive zone coverage Barry seems endeared to.
This is really interesting to me. If you think back to the Legion of Boom - they had the superior talent and so Pete Carroll didn't fart around with a lot of disguise. "We're playing Cover 3, we're better than you, good luck."
They main difference I see is the aggressiveness that Seattle defense was willing to play at. They were well known for their attacking, 1 gap, 4-3 under scheme up front and the Cover 1 and 3 on the back end. From what I saw the last 2 weeks, it looks like we are moving more to that style and I like it.BSA wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023 12:10This is really interesting to me. If you think back to the Legion of Boom - they had the superior talent and so Pete Carroll didn't fart around with a lot of disguise. "We're playing Cover 3, we're better than you, good luck."
And with all of the talent on the Packers defense, you could make the case that was a winning strategy. Just do what you're going to do so well that it makes it super hard on the offense
On the flip side, IF an opposing offense/QB knows what you're doing and how you will line up every time, you're mostly dead meat.
In the end, I think its gotta be a mix of several things that your guys do well, but allowing for some obfuscation and disguise
Actually it's " Legion of Boom, named after there safetyScott4Pack wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023 15:36Gosh, how many defenses over the years ever had as much talent as the L of D? Not many. And there isn’t such every given year either.
You're right, not many. That being said, I honestly believe that there have been many, many defenses over the years that have wasted great talent because of stupid/overly-complicated schemes and coaching.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023 15:36Gosh, how many defenses over the years ever had as much talent as the L of D? Not many. And there isn’t such every given year either.