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go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:24

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 06:53

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 06:46

Love finished the year

7th in passing yards
2nd in passing TDs
12th in passer rating
9th in QBR


That’s a top ten QB in the league year one.

Consistency, maintaining, improving on some little things, etc. need to continue, of course. You never “arrive.” You must always improve. And he’s not more that Kirk Cousins or Justin Herbert yet.

But dang that was better than I expected

I still believe if he'd have had several journeyman receivers a more healthy Jones and a little better pass pro, what we now see from Love would have happened earlier in the season, jmo, however I didn't expect this level of play either, specially what we saw yesterday, wow

I wouldn't change a damn thing. Keep those washed up receivers off my team.

this was a 12 win team with a better start at receiver and OL, and it would have been even better if it had a healthy Watson for most of the season as well

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:30

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:24

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 06:53

I still believe if he'd have had several journeyman receivers a more healthy Jones and a little better pass pro, what we now see from Love would have happened earlier in the season, jmo, however I didn't expect this level of play either, specially what we saw yesterday, wow

I wouldn't change a damn thing. Keep those washed up receivers off my team.

this was a 12 win team with a better start at receiver and OL, and it would have been even better if it had a healthy Watson for most of the season as well

We deserve the record and seeding we have. We lost two games in December to teams we should have beat and nearly lost a 3rd game.

In fact, we are a missed Saints FG or Chargers drop away from not making the show. We are an inconsistent and young team who can beat anyone and lose to anyone. It's part of the growing pains.

But it's' our team and I love them. BG assembled a fantastic football team.

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:30

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:24

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 06:53

I still believe if he'd have had several journeyman receivers a more healthy Jones and a little better pass pro, what we now see from Love would have happened earlier in the season, jmo, however I didn't expect this level of play either, specially what we saw yesterday, wow

I wouldn't change a damn thing. Keep those washed up receivers off my team.

this was a 12 win team with a better start at receiver and OL, and it would have been even better if it had a healthy Watson for most of the season as well

Those journeyman receivers would have only taken snaps from guys like Wicks and Melton thus slowing their growth toward our actual future receiving corps. No thanks.

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:48

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:30

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:24

I wouldn't change a damn thing. Keep those washed up receivers off my team.

this was a 12 win team with a better start at receiver and OL, and it would have been even better if it had a healthy Watson for most of the season as well

We deserve the record and seeding we have. We lost two games in December to teams we should have beat and nearly lost a 3rd game.

In fact, we are a missed Saints FG or Chargers drop away from not making the show. We are an inconsistent and young team who can beat anyone and lose to anyone. It's part of the growing pains.

But it's' our team and I love them. BG assembled a fantastic football team.

This. We got some breaks and evened out the stinkers but overall we earned our spot in the playoffs by really gelling at the right time. These last 2 weeks with our backs against the wall is such a huge testament to the mental toughness of this collective young team. MLF should be considered for Coach Of The Year, no doubt.

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:30

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 07:24

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 06:53

I still believe if he'd have had several journeyman receivers a more healthy Jones and a little better pass pro, what we now see from Love would have happened earlier in the season, jmo, however I didn't expect this level of play either, specially what we saw yesterday, wow

I wouldn't change a damn thing. Keep those washed up receivers off my team.

this was a 12 win team with a better start at receiver and OL, and it would have been even better if it had a healthy Watson for most of the season as well

I'm not so certain of that. Perhaps the reason for the inaccuracies and misses in the first half of the season wasn't so much because the rookie receivers needed experience (though that would have been part of it) but because Love and his receivers - whoever they may be - weren't yet on the same page.

And further, if we had had an experienced receiver, would Love have gone to him first and would that have stunted the growth in the current offence chemistry?

We can never be sure what would have happened, but bearing in mind where we are now, I wouldn't change the first half of the season in hopes of improving the end result. If the second half of the season had been like the first, then yes. But in view of what the second half of the season was like, then no.

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

Is that what this is? You getting to say you were right on your win prediction?

APB wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 09:16

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

Is that what this is? You getting to say you were right on your win prediction?

of course that too, but I actually believe I'am right

Rodgers had go to receiver Driver, and upstart Jennings, that never stopped him from spreading the ball around, imo if a team has one great and also a bunch of very good, all will get targeted throws, that's also part of the coaching job to make sure that happens.

what we saw with Adams and Rodgers was a result of the steep drop off to the rest of the receivers, and there inability to be open on schedule, or actually ever being open.

everyone has growing pains, better supporting cast imo lessons some of that.

I think the same for some of these comments where others are saying we are right where we are suppose to be, I think most of those posters predicted less wins, even less then we actually have

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

I'm interested to hear your list of receivers you want to not be a Packer to make room for your vet WR.

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 09:42

APB wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 09:16

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

Is that what this is? You getting to say you were right on your win prediction?

of course that too, but I actually believe I'am right

Rodgers had go to receiver Driver, and upstart Jennings, that never stopped him from spreading the ball around, imo if a team has one great and also a bunch of very good, all will get targeted throws, that's also part of the coaching job to make sure that happens.

what we saw with Adams and Rodgers was a result of the steep drop off to the rest of the receivers, and there inability to be open on schedule, or actually ever being open.

everyone has growing pains, better supporting cast imo lessons some of that.

I think the same for some of these comments where others are saying we are right where we are suppose to be, I think most of those posters predicted less wins, even less then we actually have

Keep your washed up pet topic out of my thread.

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:09

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 09:42

APB wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 09:16

Is that what this is? You getting to say you were right on your win prediction?

of course that too, but I actually believe I'am right

Rodgers had go to receiver Driver, and upstart Jennings, that never stopped him from spreading the ball around, imo if a team has one great and also a bunch of very good, all will get targeted throws, that's also part of the coaching job to make sure that happens.

what we saw with Adams and Rodgers was a result of the steep drop off to the rest of the receivers, and there inability to be open on schedule, or actually ever being open.

everyone has growing pains, better supporting cast imo lessons some of that.

I think the same for some of these comments where others are saying we are right where we are suppose to be, I think most of those posters predicted less wins, even less then we actually have

Keep your washed up pet topic out of my thread.

my team, my thread, to funny, this is also my thread, my forum and sure as hell my team as well, and you and others predicted we wouldn't even get this far, me, I expected this right from the start. yes, yes, and it would have been even better with the issues I mentioned

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:08

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

I'm interested to hear your list of receivers you want to not be a Packer to make room for your vet WR.

just guess, obviously Dubois and Touri top that list, we had room for several established vets, nuff said.

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:19

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:08

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

I'm interested to hear your list of receivers you want to not be a Packer to make room for your vet WR.

just guess, obviously Dubois and Touri top that list, we had room for several established vets, nuff said.

Dubose wasn't on the roster...

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:19

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:08

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

I'm interested to hear your list of receivers you want to not be a Packer to make room for your vet WR.

just guess, obviously Dubois and Touri top that list, we had room for several established vets, nuff said.

If your list of complaints about how Gute handled the WR position is Toure being our opening day #6 player instead of a vet....I think he did a pretty darned good job.

In fact. Down right amazing job

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:19

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:08

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 08:51

blah blah blah, this team would have a better record, all the rookie receivers would have done just as well, Love would be just as good, our defense layed a egg for most of the season, the OL took time to gel up, and these rookie receivers did too.

true where happy to be where we are, but we would /should have had a 12 win season.

I'm interested to hear your list of receivers you want to not be a Packer to make room for your vet WR.

just guess, obviously Dubois and Touri top that list, we had room for several established vets, nuff said.

Only so many WRs can play at a time. So what veteran WRs would you have signed that would have played instead of Wicks, Reed or Melton? Wicks and Reed improved a great deal as the season went on because they were able to play and learn. This would not have happened with veterans taking away their snaps. This is a young team that NEEDED to play together and learn together.

williewasgreat wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:31

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:19

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:08

I'm interested to hear your list of receivers you want to not be a Packer to make room for your vet WR.

just guess, obviously Dubois and Touri top that list, we had room for several established vets, nuff said.

Only so many WRs can play at a time. So what veteran WRs would you have signed that would have played instead of Wicks, Reed or Melton? Wicks and Reed improved a great deal as the season went on because they were able to play and learn. This would not have happened with veterans taking away their snaps. This is a young team that NEEDED to play together and learn together.

why do I have to come up with names? these young receivers would have still been able to accomplish what they did if we had had a couple vets that didn't drop passes or run the wrong routes, couple that with a makeshift OL which didn't provide a lot of protection to start the season, and we could have won a couple more games, but obviously thats not for sure, as it took most of the season for Barry to support our offense.

again have vets didn't hurt the younger receivers in 08

It is a miracle how many of these young receivers are looking like they can contribute in this league.

The question is: Did Gutey just hit homeruns and go on an iconic run in the draft?

Or did Rodgers actively hurt the development of young receivers forcing them to think about crap that doesnt have to do with catching the ball: like hand signals, perfect routes, poor body language, and having to "earn trust" before you will get the ball?

I think the evironment Love is providing for these guys to grow is a big part of it.

Gute also looks like he found some dogs.

Heck ya.

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:29

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:19

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:08

I'm interested to hear your list of receivers you want to not be a Packer to make room for your vet WR.

just guess, obviously Dubois and Touri top that list, we had room for several established vets, nuff said.

If your list of complaints about how Gute handled the WR position is Toure being our opening day #6 player instead of a vet....I think he did a pretty darned good job.

In fact. Down right amazing job

NO, my complaint is starting the season minus any real experience at the position, again, our WR's ran wrong routes and dropped a ton of passes, it was derailing Loves initial season, add in the porus OL and it could have ruined him, just as it does for soooooo many rookie or first year QB's, that you want to discount those real possibilities is disingenuous simply based on that it didn't happen

and nothing I just said takes away from the growth we saw with the group or with the way they where coached up, it concerns how we started not how we finished.

I wont let you or any of your posse strip me of the joy I feel for this team, simply because you accept the way our GM set up this roster.

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 11:09

go pak go wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:29

Yoop wrote: ↑

08 Jan 2024 10:19

just guess, obviously Dubois and Touri top that list, we had room for several established vets, nuff said.

If your list of complaints about how Gute handled the WR position is Toure being our opening day #6 player instead of a vet....I think he did a pretty darned good job.

In fact. Down right amazing job

NO, my complaint is starting the season minus any real experience at the position, again, our WR's ran wrong routes and dropped a ton of passes, it was derailing Loves initial season, add in the porus OL and it could have ruined him, just as it does for soooooo many rookie or first year QB's, that you want to discount those real possibilities is disingenuous simply based on that it didn't happen

and nothing I just said takes away from the growth we saw with the group or with the way they where coached up, it concerns how we started not how we finished.

I wont let you or any of your posse strip me of the joy I feel for this team, simply because you accept the way our GM set up this roster.

In my eyes, its a miracle the receiver room seemed to improve all year and not totally implode.

Its a miracle they got better without any vets to guide them,

but hey..the miracle happened. It worked. And so its absolutely best those guys got the most reps. No need to complain now.

Time to just be shocked it worked, admit we were wrong, and tip the cap to "the plan"

We made the freakin playoffs