Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 13:22
Replace Rodgers for the bolded words up top and you have finally realized the perspective from those who argued with you for 5 years.
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Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 13:36
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 13:43
Oh I see. Nobody is perfect except one person. Got it.Yoop wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 13:36Rodgers wasn't the problem with this team the last 5 years, the lack of talent at skill position was
Sounds like a bunch of excuses and lack of accountability to me.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 13:58
I'm practically perfect, it's my humility that requires I say practically.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 14:04
the lack of accountability is a top down affair, do we need to go over first round picks again
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 14:37
How do you know it wasn't Rodgers who screwed up? There were more than enough times during film review by some highly respected pundits that Rodgers did not make the right decision. So unless he was glaring a mirror that we did not see on the field, yes, glaring at them like that is toxic in my opinion.Yoop wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 10:30that's your perception, in reality it was with players that continued to screw up, and it is what Kraft is probably talking about, lack of accountability, we should hope and expect our better players, as well as our coaches, hold players, all players accountable to train and work hard to be better.Acrobat wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 09:54Yeah but Rodgers was a dick about it. You can hold your teammates accountable without being toxic.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025 08:09
ya want to know whats really funny to me, it's that you and others act as though the stare down is actually a bad thing, when it's about as normal a response to failure as any other gesture, and we do that often every time it happens.
and if you ever played high level sports you would know and accept that it is normal, you screw up and you should expect some of it, cause it's coming, Finley and every other receiver that screwed up deserved Rodgers's cold stares, they let down their teammates.
the slogan goes like this, we strive for perfection, hoping to achieve excellence, that requires study and working at your craft, when players fail to do that we all should hold them accountable
I like how other QB's like Brady would get in the players faces but also talk them up and build confidence. Not the "I'm pissed at you and want you out of my life" glare that Rodgers would give.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 14:38
So basically, hold everyone accountable except for one person. Speaking of toxicity...Yoop wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 13:36Rodgers wasn't the problem with this team the last 5 years, the lack of talent at skill position was
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 15:12
You guys were doing really well not trying to argue with someone who refuses to see anything but his viewpoint - at least until just now. 
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 15:15
just looking for some accountability.Half Empty wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:12You guys were doing really well not trying to argue with someone who refuses to see anything but his viewpoint - at least until just now.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 15:40
go pak go wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:15just looking for some accountability.Half Empty wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:12You guys were doing really well not trying to argue with someone who refuses to see anything but his viewpoint - at least until just now.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 20 Jan 2025 15:41
Don't ask for that, or any other question for that matter. It's insulting!go pak go wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:15just looking for some accountability.Half Empty wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:12You guys were doing really well not trying to argue with someone who refuses to see anything but his viewpoint - at least until just now.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 07:10
you grilling others is whats insulting, and you do it to anyone you disagree withPckfn23 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:41Don't ask for that, or any other question for that matter. It's insulting!go pak go wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:15just looking for some accountability.Half Empty wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 15:12You guys were doing really well not trying to argue with someone who refuses to see anything but his viewpoint - at least until just now.
and I love how the peanut gallery in here does the school yard bully routine, so childish, It's lafleurs job to require accountability, and he's asking a bunch of players to help him do it, the same damn way Rodgers and others did it under McCarthy.
It's a hoot to hear members here defending these poor little receivers for getting the 3rd degree for fking up, then in another thread complain because we lost
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 08:43
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 09:34
And with the Jets, Rodgers held his receivers accountable for routes and drops. Held the HC accountable for game plans. Held the OC accountable for playcalling. Held the defense accountable for performance. Held the GM accountable for bringing in his buds. Held the owner responsible for the coaching staff.
Somehow, all of Rodgers accountability of others resulted in 2 less wins than the previous season with Zach Wilson at QB with a less talented roster.
Somehow, all of Rodgers accountability of others resulted in 2 less wins than the previous season with Zach Wilson at QB with a less talented roster.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 11:08
well someone had to take the rains, people blame Rodgers for everything wrong with the Jets, that team was a mess before he got thereAmishMafia wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025 09:34And with the Jets, Rodgers held his receivers accountable for routes and drops. Held the HC accountable for game plans. Held the OC accountable for playcalling. Held the defense accountable for performance. Held the GM accountable for bringing in his buds. Held the owner responsible for the coaching staff.
Somehow, all of Rodgers accountability of others resulted in 2 less wins than the previous season with Zach Wilson at QB with a less talented roster.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 13:00
They actually appeared to be a team on the rise before he got there.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025 11:08well someone had to take the rains, people blame Rodgers for everything wrong with the Jets, that team was a mess before he got thereAmishMafia wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025 09:34And with the Jets, Rodgers held his receivers accountable for routes and drops. Held the HC accountable for game plans. Held the OC accountable for playcalling. Held the defense accountable for performance. Held the GM accountable for bringing in his buds. Held the owner responsible for the coaching staff.
Somehow, all of Rodgers accountability of others resulted in 2 less wins than the previous season with Zach Wilson at QB with a less talented roster.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 13:56
Rodgers had 28 TD's this season, the prior two seasons that passing offense produced 26 TD's, Rodgers may be a AH, but he can still play QB pretty well, and he has less control of what went on there than people think.Acrobat wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025 13:00They actually appeared to be a team on the rise before he got there.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025 11:08well someone had to take the rains, people blame Rodgers for everything wrong with the Jets, that team was a mess before he got thereAmishMafia wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025 09:34And with the Jets, Rodgers held his receivers accountable for routes and drops. Held the HC accountable for game plans. Held the OC accountable for playcalling. Held the defense accountable for performance. Held the GM accountable for bringing in his buds. Held the owner responsible for the coaching staff.
Somehow, all of Rodgers accountability of others resulted in 2 less wins than the previous season with Zach Wilson at QB with a less talented roster.
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 14:06
How was his passer rating? And how many games did the team win?
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 14:32
I don't watch the jets, follow them, or Rodgers, but he is not the reason the jets suck, nor was that team on any rise before he got there, this was a easy find on GoogleAcrobat wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025 14:06How was his passer rating? And how many games did the team win?
Aaron Rodgers' 77.8 grade tied Texans QB C.J. Stroud for No. 15 in the NFL this season. Despite the Jets' record, Rodgers delivered one of the most prolific seasons by a signal-caller in green and white. His 3,879 passing yards and 28 touchdowns each rank No. 3 in franchise history.Jan 14, 2025
Re: Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution
Posted: 21 Jan 2025 14:40
Well at least the beginning narrative assures everyone you're a credible source for your assertion.
lol.