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Bishop was a Packer for 5 years and has combined tackles of 222, Dix was here 4 seasons and has 300, and was 2nd on the team in tackles every season, Bishop was over rated as a mlb, and Dix was under rated as a safety, mostly because his last season here he played not to get hurt since he new the Packers would not resign him.
that could also be said for the way our players tackle, your simply more apt to injure yourself wrapping up then shoulder bumping, no one likes this stuff, or playing less physical in coverage with a hands off approach, the goal is to avoid costly penalty's.
we miss the de cleaters such as that hit on Jo Jo Shluster the other day, however we've had some bone jaring fumble causing hits, just not as spectacular as that one.
Not the best comparison to seasons accumulated and tackles.
Desmond Bishop was a 6th round draft pick in 2007. Bishop flashed every August but the coaches refused to play him and they were wrong.
Bishop was then forced into the starting role in 2010 because Barnett was injured and Bishop showed the coaches they were wrong for not playing him.
Bishop got 218 tackles in two seasons with starts of 12 games in 2020 and 13 games in 2011 until he got signed by MN and got injured in MN.
Clinton Dix was a first round pick and slated to start immediately. Clinton Dix got 350 tackles from 2014 - 2017 when he started 58 games. Dix then got traded in 2018 and couldn't stick with a team.
So when you are comparing tackles over seasons, you should really compare 218 tackles over 25 starts (8.72 per game) compared to 350 tackles over 58 games. (6 tackles per game)
ehhhh, the coaches wouldn't play him more for the same reasons others are held out, small head lol, plus he had to beat out Barnett or Hawk, both better in coverage, why people don't seem to think that is usually the deciding factor baffles me, it is a passing league, and was even more so back then, ya could say he should have played a bit more, fans didn't like Barnett's tendency ofr letting the runner come to him more so then shooting up in a gap more like Bishop, but rarely did runners get past Barnett, Bishop simply couldn't beat those two out.
Dix was a stud his first 2 plus seasons, then it seemed Capers leashed him, thats also about when Randall became so upset with the play of others, it was rumored that players became frustrated with Capers, seemed like it to me, specially with the way some including Dix played.
Oh. I thought it was because the players were frustrated with Capers that he didn't play Bishop until injuries forced his hand and the Packers then won a Super Bowl.
I mean I know the coaches held him out. I also know the coaches were wrong. Just like all of us fans knew McCoach was wrong for having Jamaal Williams be the starting RB when Aaron Jones was clearly better or playing Christian Kirksey when Kamal Martin and Krys Barnes are clearly better.
I agree Dix looked good his first two seasons. But what Dix did in the NFC Championship game, particularly on that 2 point conversion is unforgivable. He just didn't try. I don't mind mental lapses. I don't mind physical limits.
But I do mind lack of effort and Dix was exactly that on that particularly play.
But I do mind lack of effort and Dix was exactly that on that particularly play.
HHCD showed a lot of that, but I don't agree on the particular play you are mentioning. Somehow, he put himself in no man's land and couldn't make a play. Either undercut it or go over the top... he did neither and by the time he had decided (if he ever did) it was too late.
I saw Barnes and Martin on the field together quite often last Saturday. Coaches tend to be hesitant to play young guys over vets as a general rule and Pettine is no different in that respect, but I came away from that game feeling like those two have officially overtaken Kirksey, notwithstanding the occasional plays they send out Kirksey instead (FYI: Barnes had to leave the game for a bit to get his eye attended to).
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Bishop was a Packer for 5 years and has combined tackles of 222, Dix was here 4 seasons and has 300, and was 2nd on the team in tackles every season, Bishop was over rated as a mlb, and Dix was under rated as a safety, mostly because his last season here he played not to get hurt since he new the Packers would not resign him.
that could also be said for the way our players tackle, your simply more apt to injure yourself wrapping up then shoulder bumping, no one likes this stuff, or playing less physical in coverage with a hands off approach, the goal is to avoid costly penalty's.
we miss the de cleaters such as that hit on Jo Jo Shluster the other day, however we've had some bone jaring fumble causing hits, just not as spectacular as that one.
Either I've completely lost it and need to just go back on eBay looking for deals on Packers cards ..... but I am having extreme difficulty trying to figure out what Bishop and/or HaHa have to do with Titans @ Packers - SNF GBT - 12/27 7:25 CST.
If Ringo is criticizing a post for off-topic randomness, you know you're posting some off-topic randomness...
don't look at me, I didn't switch the tracks, I mean who gives a rats ass anyway, it's not as though this forum is over run with Titans talk, ya wanna rehash whats already been said concerning this game , go for it.
Either I've completely lost it and need to just go back on eBay looking for deals on Packers cards ..... but I am having extreme difficulty trying to figure out what Bishop and/or HaHa have to do with Titans @ Packers - SNF GBT - 12/27 7:25 CST
Isn't it obvious?
We needed to draft Queen. If Queen were on the team, we'd have King and Queen. If we had King and Queen we should have a Bishop or a Knight. Wait, we used to have Bishop! Bishop would complement Queen! Chess club LBs, haha! HAHA!
I saw Barnes and Martin on the field together quite often last Saturday. Coaches tend to be hesitant to play young guys over vets as a general rule and Pettine is no different in that respect, but I came away from that game feeling like those two have officially overtaken Kirksey, notwithstanding the occasional plays they send out Kirksey instead (FYI: Barnes had to leave the game for a bit to get his eye attended to).
Yeah the fact that Barnes got the green dot helmet means a lot. The fact that Barnes excelled in the roll has to mean that it will continue.
This will be the 13th meeting between the two clubs. Tennessee leads the series, 7-5, but the Packers have won two of the last three matchups played in Green Bay.
Green Bay has won 16 of the last 19 games it has played against an AFC team at Lambeau Field.
I think it is a blessing that Williams is out. It will require LaFleur to use Jones more. With the Titans having a pretty putrid pass rush this will be to our advantage. It may even allow use to get Jones back into the passing game. I want to see wheel routes!
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Interesting...since we haven't played the Titans 12 times - my guess is that this includes the record from when they were the Houston Oilers
It has to because we hardly play them in GB.
2020 - Green Bay
2016 - @ Tennessee and we got crushed
2012 - Green Bay. We crushed them
2008 - @ Tennessee and we lost
2004 - Green Bay. This was a Monday Night game and McNair went off. Packers fans boo'd at halftime. We got absolutely crushed.
2001 - @ Tennessee. This one was close. I was 11 years old and was devastated by the loss.
My guess is we played the Tennessee Oilers at Lambeau in 1998 when it was a 3 division conference.
I think it is a blessing the Williams is out. It will require LaFleur to use Jones more. With the Titans having a pretty putrid pass rush this will be to our advantage. It may even allow use to get Jones back into the passing game. I want to see wheel routes!
And Dillon has never sucked when he has gotten limited carries and honestly that is damn impressive as a RB. It's hard to just come in and perform but Dillon has done it each time.
If Ringo is criticizing a post for off-topic randomness, you know you're posting some off-topic randomness...
That reminds me .......... when I think of the history I think of the Luv Ya Blue Oilers. Bum Phillips, Earl Campbell, Dan Pastorini, Ken Burrough, Billy 'White Shoes' Johnson, Elvin Bethea, Robert Brazile, Curly Culp, Gregg Bingham, Mike Reinfeldt, Toni Fritsch (kicker). Fun team to watch on the AFC channel (NBC I believe). Back then the Oilers were always trying to beat the Steel Curtain.
Alright already .......... that was then and this is now.
Interesting...since we haven't played the Titans 12 times - my guess is that this includes the record from when they were the Houston Oilers
It has to because we hardly play them in GB.
2020 - Green Bay
2016 - @ Tennessee and we got crushed
2012 - Green Bay. We crushed them
2008 - @ Tennessee and we lost
2004 - Green Bay. This was a Monday Night game and McNair went off. Packers fans boo'd at halftime. We got absolutely crushed.
2001 - @ Tennessee. This one was close. I was 11 years old and was devastated by the loss.
My guess is we played the Tennessee Oilers at Lambeau in 1998 when it was a 3 division conference.
Yes we played the Oilers in 1998 at Lambeau Field. It snowed. It was Reggie White's last game at Lambeau Field. Reggie was Defensive Player of the Year that season. The Packers won the game. Mike Holmgren and Fritz Shurmur were still there. Wow.....that was over 30 years ago.
Interesting...since we haven't played the Titans 12 times - my guess is that this includes the record from when they were the Houston Oilers
It has to because we hardly play them in GB.
2020 - Green Bay
2016 - @ Tennessee and we got crushed
2012 - Green Bay. We crushed them
2008 - @ Tennessee and we lost
2004 - Green Bay. This was a Monday Night game and McNair went off. Packers fans boo'd at halftime. We got absolutely crushed.
2001 - @ Tennessee. This one was close. I was 11 years old and was devastated by the loss.
My guess is we played the Tennessee Oilers at Lambeau in 1998 when it was a 3 division conference.
Yes we played the Oilers in 1998 at Lambeau Field. It snowed. It was Reggie White's last game at Lambeau Field. Reggie was Defensive Player of the Year that season. The Packers won the game. Mike Holmgren and Fritz Shurmur were still there. Wow.....that was over 30 years ago.
Remember when we held Barry Sanders to -1 yards? Here we come Derrick Henry!
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
2020 - Green Bay
2016 - @ Tennessee and we got crushed
2012 - Green Bay. We crushed them
2008 - @ Tennessee and we lost
2004 - Green Bay. This was a Monday Night game and McNair went off. Packers fans boo'd at halftime. We got absolutely crushed.
2001 - @ Tennessee. This one was close. I was 11 years old and was devastated by the loss.
My guess is we played the Tennessee Oilers at Lambeau in 1998 when it was a 3 division conference.
Yes we played the Oilers in 1998 at Lambeau Field. It snowed. It was Reggie White's last game at Lambeau Field. Reggie was Defensive Player of the Year that season. The Packers won the game. Mike Holmgren and Fritz Shurmur were still there. Wow.....that was over 30 years ago.
